Yeah, the white clouds, the sawtooths and the seven devils are all areas with much better goat hunting, but I could also put in for 20 years and not draw a tag. That middlefork tag is very easy, I'd rather hunt in a poor area than not hunt at all. As hot as it has been, I'm wondering if I just need to wait till the end of october when it cools off, then maybe some of those sawtooth goats will be moseying on down towards the winter range, warmer climate of the middlefork?