Author Topic: You folks can stop your speculation.. (Read 10647 times)

williamlayton · « **Reply #90 on:** January 14, 2011, 12:37:05 PM »

Lost
You are correct---one of us has a closed mind.
There are two hundred people who will call you a liar if you say their family never existed.
Blessings

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #91 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:08:08 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on January 14, 2011, 12:37:05 PM

Lost
You are correct---one of us has a closed mind.
There are two hundred people who will call you a liar if you say their family never existed.Blessings

When did I ever say anything like that?

williamlayton · « **Reply #92 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:20:53 AM »

When you buy into the thought that the Pentagon was hit by a missel---and you have to buy into the whole of the conspiracy if you want to perpetuate the lie.
Blessings

Swampman · « **Reply #93 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:40:51 AM »

On my way to Walmart to get some more tinfoil.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #94 on:** January 15, 2011, 03:56:06 AM »

Whatever TM yall sure grasp at straws. So now was this an airplane or a cruise missile I have heard you claim one time it was a cruise missile. debunked by thousands of eye witnesses one being a cousin of mine. You bring up that it was a remote control 737. But earlier you make claims, experts say no novice pilot could fly that low. So a remote controlled plane could be?

Casull · « **Reply #95 on:** January 15, 2011, 04:31:31 AM »

Billy, you're dead on. If we listen to the so-called "truther's", the media knew about this, the Israeli's knew about it, the Saudi's knew about it (hell, apparently everyone except the Americans knew about it), but yet the British, the Spanish and a host of other countries were still willing to join us in retaliating against Afganistan. And, it truly is hilarious that after saying probably 50 times that "no professional pilot coiuld fly that manuever", tm now thinks it was done by remote control. And very funny how WTC 7 was dropped by demolition, but NO sounds of explosion are heard on the video footage prior to it collapsing. They talk about the holes in the "official conspiracy theory", but overlook hundreds of holes in their screwball theories. I think for now I have to walk away from this area for awhile (I'm getting a headache trying to figure out how people can be that hairbrained).

billy_56081 · « **Reply #96 on:** January 15, 2011, 04:47:41 AM »

Kinda funny how the moderator here, who claims to be looking into the "truth" edits out things that don't agree with his agenda.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #97 on:** January 15, 2011, 10:01:23 AM »

Again TM we go back to my cousin and the thousands of other witnesses to the AIRLINER. Were they all part ofthe conspiracy too?

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #98 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:18:24 PM »

Quote from: williamlayton on January 15, 2011, 01:20:53 AM

When you buy into the thought that the Pentagon was hit by a missel---and you have to buy into the whole of the conspiracy if you want to perpetuate the lie.
Blessings

I disagree with this whole comment (except the Blessings part)

Never said anything about the Pentagon or missal. Still investigating that one. Didn't have much to go on until the resent Jesse Verntura Pentagon show.

This is not a piece of legislation where you have to except or reject the whole thing. Each piece of evidence must be judged on it's own merit. Then compared to the whole puzzle.

I believe 4 planes are missing and the crews and passengers are all dead. 2 hit the WTC. 1 crashed in Pennsylvania. The 4th may or may not have hit the pentagon, but I am sure all the people on it are dead.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #99 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:25:35 PM »

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on January 15, 2011, 01:18:24 PM

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The 4th may or may not have hit the pentagon, but I am sure all the people on it are dead.

My cousin along with thousands of other eyewitnesses saw the plane, you can be sure now.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #100 on:** January 17, 2011, 12:59:10 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on January 15, 2011, 01:25:35 PM

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on January 15, 2011, 01:18:24 PM
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The 4th may or may not have hit the pentagon, but I am sure all the people on it are dead.

My cousin along with thousands of other eyewitnesses saw the plane, you can be sure now.

No, I need a little more than that.

You yourself said your cousin only saw a low flying plane heading toward the Pentagon. He didn't see it hit. Did thousands of people see a low flying plane or did thousands see a plane hit the Pentagon, there is a big difference.

Then I have to consider the professional airline pilots that say it can't be done. This is not easy, but it is important.

Right now I have to say the 1364 architects and engineers that say WTC building 7 could not have fallen from fires alone have a lot of credibility.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #101 on:** January 17, 2011, 01:15:46 AM »

While he did not see the impact from where he was, he said it was impossible for the plane to have pulled up and him not see it. There are also dozens of eye witnesses to the actual strike and many were interviewed on television. As for "professional pilots" saying this is impossible hogwash either they are not pilots or they are liars, flying low any professional pilot knows what ground effect is and how it helps in low flying. You folks are believing what you want to believe. Not because it is true or there is truth in it, but because it either fits your preconcieved notion or agenda.

Casull · « **Reply #102 on:** January 17, 2011, 04:03:53 AM »

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Right now I have to say the 1364 architects and engineers that say WTC building 7 could not have fallen from fires alone have a lot of credibility.

Really? Well, since there are over 101,000 architects and 1,600,000 engineers in the US alone, I'm not very impressed. Just for statistical purposes, your "experts" represent less than 1/10th of one percent.

Casull · « **Reply #103 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:18:17 AM »

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Not every architect or engineer is 'free' or inclined to join architects and engineers for 911 truth

You're not kidding. Looks like 99.9%+ have not done so.

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but suffice to say most Americans do not buy the Official Conspriacy Story hook, line, and sinker.

So YOU say. I've yet to run into one of the tinfoil hat types in person.

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b] why did the Pentacon's anti-aircraft weaponry

Can we grow up a little here. It's the "Pentagon". The silly play on words is just childish.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #104 on:** January 17, 2011, 08:50:09 AM »

TM what is the Pentagons antiaircraft weapon? Be careful what tales you try to spin with this I was in the air defense branch of the Army and will shoot down your misinformation on this.

Troyboy · « **Reply #105 on:** January 17, 2011, 12:38:05 PM »

I for one refuse to believe in this conspiracy on 911 hogwash. I also do not believe a nuke caused the tsunami that killed all those people. I do however believe there a select few who control all the worlds money. Our government for all it's problems is still the best in the WHOLE world. And I might add we still live in the best country on the face of the earth. We still have the right to vote, we can still say what we feel and we still have the right to bear arms.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #106 on:** January 18, 2011, 01:05:52 PM »

How about youtell us about those Stinger missile that at one time you claimed defended the pentagon. You tell us your "information" and I'll shoot it down with personal knowledge and fact.

mjbskwim · « **Reply #107 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:53:44 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 03, 2010, 03:43:29 AM

Quote from: powderman on October 02, 2010, 02:47:29 PM
HEHEHE. tm, you and cindy were made for each other. The two of you should write a book, THE JEWS DID IT, but print it in the Godless language of your choice, they would buy it. I can't see any real profit from Americans. HEH, you crack me up. POWDERMAN.
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The Official Theory adherents are primarily conspiracy theorist that are dual loyalist, and they will always block investigation and knowledge of this event. They will never get this and always block real investigations lest they be found out and their agenda thwarted, mostly lower level ridicule,,,, right up to the day the real perps are led to the gallows. These people need to be purged as well.

..TM7
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Why do you think the steel was scrapped out so fast?
Get rid of the evidence.

Y'all missed a Physics class or two if you think those buildings were taken down by those planes.
They should have fallen to the side at some point,destroying the rest of the city block.
Wonder why they didn't?

This is real simple stuff here.

williamlayton · « **Reply #108 on:** January 23, 2011, 08:30:57 AM »

Ignore the bodies,the one that sceams the longest and loudest wins.
Would you please explain why you could concieveable say the towers should have toppeled?
TM
Honestly. At one time I had some respect for you---thought you were intelligent.
You have convinced me I was wrong about you.
Let's go back to the bodies.
Blessings

billy_56081 · « **Reply #109 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:46:43 PM »

I been waiting to hear about TM's knowledge about stinger missiles.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #110 on:** January 24, 2011, 04:53:07 AM »

TM in another thread quite awhile back either you or your son posting under the TM7 name claimed stingers defending the pentagon. Being I am familiar with the stinger missile from my time serving in air defense in the army. I shot down your mistaken knowledge on the capability of a stinger missile.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #111 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:53:46 PM »

Quote from: Casull on January 17, 2011, 04:03:53 AM

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Right now I have to say the 1364 architects and engineers that say WTC building 7 could not have fallen from fires alone have a lot of credibility.

Really? Well, since there are over 101,000 architects and 1,600,000 engineers in the US alone, I'm not very impressed. Just for statistical purposes, your "experts" represent less than 1/10th of one percent.

I see this line of reasoning to be flawed. You would have to assume all 101,000 architects and 1,600,000 engineers have heard of building 7, viewed all the evidence and concluded that the building fell from fire alone. You would have a hard time finding 1% that even heard of building 7.

A fire hot enough to bring the building down would at least have been visible through some of the windows.

http://buildingwhat.org/buildingwhat-tv-ad/

Casull · « **Reply #112 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:10:25 AM »

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You would have a hard time finding 1% that even heard of building 7.

Really. You have something to back up this "statistic"?

ironglow · « **Reply #113 on:** March 10, 2011, 02:15:40 AM »

Hmmm1364 architects and engineers who back the 9/11 truthers..or are the 9/11 truthers. I checked into their website and could not find the list of their names nor their exact field of expertise. They must be real people somewhere though ! Perhaps they are tribsmen/architects in nthe Brazilian jungles who design native longhouses !

Or perhaps they are much like the "scientists and engineers" who have signed onto the "global warming" myth..scientists of psychiatry and engineers of styrofoam cups..

I do hasten to remind the truthers that sometimes even architects and engineers can be wrong. Thomas Andrews, chief architect & engineer of the Titanic went down with the ship, claiming it COULD NOT SINK! When we consider, out of all the world's architects and engineers; how very few a number like 1364 is; ..there could easily be that many who are not too tightly wrapped or hold an overwhelming grudge against Bush and Cheney (in keeping with the rest of the truthers).
I am beginning to suspect this 9/11 truth outfit is a money generating machine...designed by an engineer to fleece the frothing-at-the-mouth & furious flock !

Hey; gullible is as gullible does..

Here; take a look at their fleece-the-flock page. http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/457-feb-fundraising.html

ironglow · « **Reply #114 on:** March 10, 2011, 04:58:55 AM »

11,442 out of 5 billion people worldwide..I'm impressed !

Casull · « **Reply #115 on:** March 10, 2011, 10:53:14 AM »

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11,442 out of 5 billion people worldwide..I'm impressed !

Now, why do you want to go putting things into perspective like that.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #116 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:26:13 PM »

Wow Casull that is like .0002%!

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #117 on:** March 10, 2011, 11:40:01 PM »

You guys are manipulating numbers like democrats. When counting apples you can't throw in oranges, plums, peaches, bananas, pears and every other fruit in the store.

If you are counting engineers, take all the engineers that saw all the evidence. Then count the ones that believe the government story and the ones that believe the conspiracy, then you would have real numbers. It is possible I may be wrong. I hope with all my heart I am. But, it appears that a majority of the engineers that look at all the evidence question the official story by our government.
Why do I hope I am wrong? Because it is a matter of life and death for us all.

ironglow · « **Reply #118 on:** March 11, 2011, 02:04:46 AM »

OK..so we should not compare "apples & oranges" and should discard doubtfuls. I looked at the link to the list of names TM provided of the professionals who endorse the conspiracy claims and I was struck with the way the list was constructed..in alphabetical order by FIRST names. I saw quite a number of them were named Ali, Ahmed, Sabu, Saleh, AlHassan, Sajid, or Salam with a few Mohammeds tossed in. Can we rest assured they had no ulterior motive for endorsing a conspiracy ?
We should keep in mind that those names were signed under the suggestion that a further investigation be initiated, NOT that they are CONVINCED of any conspiracy. I still am comforted by the fact that of all the professionals in architecture & engineering worldwide, only a comparatively small handful are alarmed enough to call for a further look.
Until the evidence for conspiracy gets so overwhelming that it is nearly impossible to deny, could one endorse one of the many conspiracy theories. Right now, the overwhelming evidence rests with the conventional, accepted facts.

Casull · « **Reply #119 on:** March 11, 2011, 06:46:07 AM »

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I still am comforted by the fact that of all the professionals in architecture & engineering worldwide, only a comparatively small handful are alarmed enough to call for a further look.

IG it's not even a "comparatively small handful", but more like a tiny, tiny thimbleful.