OBAMA SAYS HE'S A CHRISTIAN.

[powderman]

"I'm a Christian by choice," said President Obama yesterday on the campaign trail, losing his mid-term elections and trying to win Christian votes. Obama seeks to overcome public opinion polls in which 18% say he is Muslim and 43% say Obama's religion is unknown. But here's my question: Why does he campaign like a Christian, but govern like a Muslim?

 1) While governing, Obama said, "I am a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father and stepson of a Muslim stepfather, my half-brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and I am sympathetic to the Muslim agenda," during a private meeting with Egyptian Foreign Minister Abul Gheit last year.
2) "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation," Obama told Sojourners.
3) "John McCain has not criticized my Muslim faith," Obama told ABC.
4) Obama has twice celebrated Muslim Ramadan with big banquets, but twice refused any White House ceremony for the Judeo-Christian National Day of Prayer.
5) The Obama Administration defended seizing and burning our troops Christian Bibles, but made a big deal when a Christian minister almost desecrated his own Korans.
6) Obama repeatedly defends building a "Victory Mosque" at Ground Zero, but would never ask the Saudi or Afghan governments to allow Christians to build churches.
7) Obama praised Islam as "a great religion and its commitment to justice and progress" in his address to Muslims translated into many languages for worldwide distribution.

While campaigning, however, Obama needs Christian votes to keep his majority in Congress, so now he says: "I came to my Christian faith later in life...my mother didn't raise me in the church...it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me...Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes, and that, you know, we achieve salvation through the grace of God...That's what I pray to do every day. I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith." [But when governing Obama promotes tax-funded abortions, homosexualizes our military against their will, and appoints Judges like David Hamilton who ruled it's illegal to pray "in Jesus' name," but totally OK to pray to Allah in public.] Does anybody see the duplicity here?

While campaining for Christian votes, Obama claims to follow Jesus, but when governing he acts like a Muslim follower of Mohammed.


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TO HIM THEREFORE WHO KNOWETH TO DO GOOD AND DOETH IT NOT, TO HIM IT IS SIN. James 4:17
      
What a joke. POWDERMAN.  

[lakota]

Obamuslim also said that he was a natural born U.S. citizen

[powderman]

Since when do REAL Christians support killing babies and homosexuals???POWDERMAN. 

[FourBee]

We all know that muslims regard Christians as infidels.  I've heard it stated several times that it is justifiable for a muslim to lie to infidels to accomplish their agenda.  That said; it sounds similar to a politician's philosophy.

[yellowtail3]

We all know that muslims regard Christians as infidels.  I've heard it stated several times that it is justifiable for a muslim to lie to infidels to accomplish their agenda.  That said; it sounds similar to a politician's philosophy.

Not necessarily so. I believe that Islam regards Christians as people of the book. Infidel in English, is usually translated 'kafir' in Arabic, which for a Muslim, is about those who don't recognize God - in other words, it doesn't apply to Jews & Christians. More to atheists and whatnot.

Some Muslims may use it on Christians/Jews, but it's incorrect and rude. Not all Muslims are al-keda types

[Pat/Rick]

Don't know if I'll be able to find the link, but it was reported that he changed his religion at the insistance of his wife. She stated that he would never be elected to office if he said he was muslim. That is (as reported) when he identified with Christianity. He has been caught too many times with a relaxed tongue making referances to his being muslim.He is a devout liar more than anything else.
+1 FourBee. That is how I understand it as well. That it is okay for a muslim to lie to non muslims if their goal is for the greater good of islam. That "good" being total domination of the globe.

[yellowtail3]

Don't know if I'll be able to find the link, but it was reported that he changed his religion at the insistance of his wife.

It was reported, was it? Well - there you go!

She stated that he would never be elected to office if he said he was muslim. That is (as reported) when he identified with Christianity. He has been caught too many times with a relaxed tongue making referances to his being muslim.He is a devout liar more than anything else.

Such BS; the Obama Derangement Syndrome these days is even worse that the Bush Derangement Syndrome of the DailyKos crowd back in 2005 or so.

How many years did Obama go to a church? How many years did he attend a mosque?

"My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew but she didn't raise me in the Church. So I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life I would want to lead," he said, adding that Jesus taught the world humility.

Hmmm... Jesus Christ... most people mean something when they use those words together.

"Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings -- that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes and that we achieve salvation through the grace of God. But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other people and do our best to help them find their own grace. And so that's what I strive to do. That's what I pray to do every day. I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith

One could take his words at face value as spoken, or one could take the Birther route, and say it's a carefully planned plot by the Manchurian Mooslim Masters to hoodwink Americans (who voted him into office)

[powderman]

He has been caught too many times with a relaxed tongue making referances to his being muslim.He is a devout liar more than anything else.
+1 FourBee. That is how I understand it as well. That it is okay for a muslim to lie to non muslims if their goal is for the greater good of islam. That "good" being total domination of the globe.


PAT/RICK. True. Osama can call himself whatever he wants, his church of 20 years was all about blacks and the hatred of the white race. He's definitely no Christian. POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

What, he went to church a "reported" 20 years?? So what. A church that the pastor was "reported" (theres that word again) as sayin, g.d. America.

Going to church does not make you a Christian      merely and attendee.

The Birthing question was never definently answered was it? Not in my estimation. Believe what you like.

[yellowtail3]

PAT/RICK. True. Osama can call himself whatever he wants, his church of 20 years was all about blacks and the hatred of the white race. He's definitely no Christian. POWDERMAN.  

May be. Of course, considering that... the church of some here seems to be about hatred of the brown race (and black race, and mooslim race, and libruls... lots about polytics and nothing in sight about loving your fellow man)

[Avyctes]

Hmmm... Jesus Christ... most people mean something when they use those words together.

The bible says you will know a tree by its fruit.

Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Just because he said it, it's true?

Mat 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

This guy claims he's a Muslim one moment and a Christian the next.  I don't believe ANYTHING he says.  His actions speak loudly enough for me.  He's pro-Abortion, he ain't no Christian.  No Christ loving, sanctified, born again Christian would be for slaughtering our unborn.  That one thing alone is sufficient for me.

[yellowtail3]

Hmmm... Jesus Christ... most people mean something when they use those words together.

The bible says you will know a tree by its fruit.

Uh-huh. Which fruit do you want to be judged by?

Mat 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

This guy claims he's a Muslim one moment and a Christian the next.  I don't believe ANYTHING he says.  His actions speak loudly enough for me.  He's pro-Abortion, he ain't no Christian.  No Christ loving, sanctified, born again Christian would be for slaughtering our unborn.  That one thing alone is sufficient for me.

That's because you're an ideologue, in the worst way (no flame intended). Obama has never claimed to be pro-abortion. Lissen up: I've been pro-life all my adult life. I used to use the same language you just employed. I'm done with that. Doesn't change anything, though.

all these peeps worried about Obama being a Mooslim... all political BS, dressed up as spiritual discernment. That happens when yer religion and yer polytics get intertwined too closely.

[Avyctes]

Uh-huh. Which fruit do you want to be judged by?

We ain't talking about me pal, stay on topic.

If by calling me an ideologue you mean I won't support someone who supports abortion, you're right. 

But, you're wrong saying that Obama never claims to be pro-abortion.  He did so by his votes.  He doesn't have to come out audibly and say 'Oh and by the way I'm pro-abortion'.  He votes pro-choice, and the way I see it, if you ain't against it, you're for it.  If he was against it, he would vote against pro-choice.  Pretty simple, really.

[yellowtail3]

Uh-huh. Which fruit do you want to be judged by?

We ain't talking about me pal, stay on topic.

I've got a pal! Thanks!


If by calling me an ideologue you mean I won't support someone who supports abortion, you're right.  [/quote]

that's not what I had in mind. But now I'm wondering... is President Obama pro-death, too? Along with being pro-abortion? He's for those death panels, right?[/quote]

Anyhow... here we got President Obama saying that Jesus died for our sins, while the spiritual giants - with discernment - tell us he's a Mooslim (when they're not busy wanting to shoot Mexicans).

polytics. pigs dressed in nightgowns.

[Brett]

He could call himself a  Wiccan for all I care.   The fact of the matter is that his positions and politics stink and he is on the fast track to destroying our once great nation with his brand of socialism.  I believe that he is more interested in serving himself than serving our country and it's people.  The man is an arrogant SOB who is intent on forcing his will on all of us.  

[yellowtail3]

The man is an arrogant SOB who is intent on forcing his will on all of us. 

might be... a lot of that, with politicians and lawyers... but he did get elected. What were those people thinking?

[BBF]

He could call himself a  Wiccan for all I care. My feelings as well  

The fact of the matter is that his positions and politics stink and he is on the fast track to destroying our once great nation with his brand of socialism.  I believe that he is more interested in serving himself than serving our country and it's people.  The man is an arrogant SOB who is intent on forcing his will on all of us.   He is a puppet IMO for some much more sinister types in the shadow 

[gypsyman]

YT3, are you sure you don't have your favorites mixed up on the screen. This is Graybeard Outdoors, not the Huffington Post. Are you sure your sending them to the right website??   gypsyman

[Heather]

Well if Obama said it, then it must be true!

Heather

[FourBee]

   

by scatterbrain:   He is a puppet IMO for some much more sinister types in the shadow

 - - - - - - BINGO ! - - - - - - -

[Hooker]

but he did get elected. What were those people thinking?

Liberals don't think. They do what they're told then act like their choices are so noble.

Pat

[SHOOTALL]

We all know that muslims regard Christians as infidels.  I've heard it stated several times that it is justifiable for a muslim to lie to infidels to accomplish their agenda.  That said; it sounds similar to a politician's philosophy.

Not necessarily so. I believe that Islam regards Christians as people of the book. Infidel in English, is usually translated 'kafir' in Arabic, which for a Muslim, is about those who don't recognize God - in other words, it doesn't apply to Jews & Christians. More to atheists and whatnot.

Some Muslims may use it on Christians/Jews, but it's incorrect and rude. Not all Muslims are al-keda types

 In english it is one who opposes christianity.From what I have read in Islam anyone who is not Muslim is a second class citizen and if they do not accept Islam they are infidels and should be slaves or killed.

[Hooker]

Not necessarily so. I believe that Islam regards Christians as people of the book. Infidel in English, is usually translated 'kafir' in Arabic, which for a Muslim, is about those who don't recognize God - in other words, it doesn't apply to Jews & Christians. More to atheists and whatnot.

Some Muslims may use it on Christians/Jews, but it's incorrect and rude. Not all Muslims are al-keda types

There you go that makes me an infidel I don't recognize the god of islam.
My God did not send a pedophile as prophet to proclaim his word.


Pat

[FourBee]

by FourBee:  We all know that muslims regard Christians as infidels.

 

by Yellowtail3:  Not necessarily so.

Well;  the important thing is that the muslims know it, and the Christians (so called  fruit inspectors) know it.

[Pat/Rick]

PAT/RICK. True. Osama can call himself whatever he wants, his church of 20 years was all about blacks and the hatred of the white race. He's definitely no Christian. POWDERMAN.  

May be. Of course, considering that... the church of some here seems to be about hatred of the brown race (and black race, and mooslim race, and libruls... lots about polytics and nothing in sight about loving your fellow man)

That could be. Ask the latino who is married to my cousin who hates illegals as much as anybody else. Or, ask my mulatto grandson.Or a black friend and his family of mine who has sat at my dinner table more than a few times. Because someone doesn't approve of a particular act of a person(s) or group, or lifestyle of some, does in NO way mean they are full of hate for others.

[SHOOTALL]

It is somewhat hard to love someone hell bent on killing you and your way of life

[powderman]

In english it is one who opposes christianity.From what I have read in Islam anyone who is not Muslim is a second class citizen and if they do not accept Islam they are infidels and should be slaves or killed.



SHOOTALL. All true. I'm glad there are some of us here that see through this pro muzzie garbage and lies. POWDERMAN. 

[SHOOTALL]

powderman , I'm of the opinion words have come to have little if any meaning to some. Actions truely do speak louder. Thank God enough true news gets thru. the smoke screen.

[SHOOTALL]

   

by scatterbrain:   He is a puppet IMO for some much more sinister types in the shadow

 - - - - - - BINGO ! - - - - - - -

He's a dual loyalists of some kind....TM7

does this make anyone think of a guy named B. Arnold

[yellowtail3]

YT3, are you sure you don't have your favorites mixed up on the screen. This is Graybeard Outdoors...

that's for guys like me who like Marlins, milsurps, and hunting - right?

...not the Huffington Post. Are you sure your sending them to the right website??  gypsyman

Naw, no such scenario. But I understand your confusion, gypsyman: you hear something from outside your comfy little echo chamber, and you reflexively assume it's the enemy! rather than actually thinking or discussing.

pity

OSAMA SAYS HE'S A CHRISTIAN.

Hmmm... I've not heard any such pronouncement from Osama in the news. Such contempt isn't edgy - it's piss-poor juvenile disrespect.