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Re: OSAMA SAYS HE'S A CHRISTIAN.
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2010, 03:42:03 AM »
i would guess their lack of forgivness , their lack of trying to get along, their commiting crimes in the name of Allah, and uncountable other crimes aginst man are see as actions . And we all know actions speak louder than words . Is the reason mant feel then Godless . Truth is they believe in one but with a different take on reaching salvation . Killing vs forgivness.
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« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2010, 03:46:30 AM »
YT3, do us all a favor, and inform the Muzzies, that if their refering to the God that spoke to Moses, as Allah, they should read the 10 Commandments. One of them I believe, says to have no god before me. And they certainly do not do that. gypsyman

I expect most Muslims are fine with the Ten Commandments. And they do believe in the same God that spoke to Moses on Sinai. As for me informing the Muzzies... I've got no particular cred with Muslims, I don't speak Arabic, and don't have any Muslim friends, so I'm not the man for the job.

maybe we could send this Waddell dipstick who keeps popping up on my screen, over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over ....

Truth is they believe in one but with a different take on reaching salvation . Killing vs forgivness

I'm all in favor of Grace.. it's my only hope.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2010, 04:16:49 AM »
There is one main thing the Muzzlims error on, and in Christian terms makes them a cult.  

Gabriel came to the told of a Savior to be born, called the Prince of Peace.  We were told to spread this Good News to the whole world.  A SAVIOR, the PRINCE of PEACE came and died for our sins, and was resurected showing HE conqured death and hell.  We are to pray for our enemies and win them by doing good for them.  

Why would Gabriel tell us one thing, then go to Mohammed and tell him to write the Koran telling them to KILL their enemies.  Jesus warned and told of demons coming as "angels of light" to decieve many.  

This is a contradiction with Christianity.  Doing good for our enemies vs killing them.  America has followed this pattern. Even in war we rebuilt Germany and Japan.  We tried to remain peaceful.  In history Muslims have made slaves of their defeated enemies, or killed them unless they converted.  

Now if Obama had been taught scripture and if he knew this, he wouldn't be giving in to them. 

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« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2010, 04:45:14 AM »
Now if Obama had been taught scripture and if he knew this, he wouldn't be giving in to them. 

giving in to them? How so? In what way has President Obama given in to (them)?
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« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2010, 05:20:00 AM »
Obama is nothing more than a vile toxic low life super partisan liar. And yes, he is giving in to the muzzies by appeasing them here at home at every opportunity.
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« Reply #95 on: October 29, 2010, 05:40:10 AM »
And yes, he is giving in to the muzzies by appeasing them here at home at every opportunity.

How so?
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« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2010, 06:46:37 AM »
Muslims are excluded from buying insurance in the health care bill.  They are also excluded from paying the tax.  He stated with George Stephenopolis of his Muslim faith.  He has bowed to Muslim leaders.  He left his wife home when he traveled to the Middle East.  He celebrated Ramadan with them and declared a Ramadan holiday.  He ignored the National Day of Prayer.  He takes his shoes off and bows down with the Muslims in their places of worship.  I could go on and on.  I can't remember it all. 

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« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2010, 07:32:31 AM »
Muslims are excluded from buying insurance in the health care bill

Are they? Provide chapter and verse of the bill, please (I'm pretty sure you can't, except in the most expansive & imaginative reading)

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...  They are also excluded from paying the tax.
Are they? Again.. provide chapter and verse of the bill, please. I'm willing to be schooled on this subject, but I think you're wrong on this point. Correct me?
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He stated with George Stephenopolis of his Muslim faith
Oh, geezzzz... surely you've got better than that?
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 He has bowed to Muslim leaders.  He left his wife home when he traveled to the Middle East.
I left my wife at home when I traveled to the Middle East. So? Giving in??
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He celebrated Ramadan with them and declared a Ramadan holiday.
That makes him a Mooslim? Did Reagan lighting the national Christmas tree make him a Christian?
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He ignored the National Day of Prayer.
Well, there's yer proof!!!
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He takes his shoes off and bows down with the Muslims in their places of worship.
This is in a mosque, right? Are you supposed to take your shoes off in a mosque?

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 I could go on and on.  
Go ahead, and you might come up with something compelling.
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« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2010, 07:55:06 AM »
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« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2010, 08:39:33 AM »
Like the rest of us O is what he is . The next two elections will see how many Americans care about it now won't it ?
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« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2010, 09:37:02 AM »
My wife downloaded the whole dang health care bill.  MUSSLIMS are excluced as well as the AMISH.  I think any religion that doesn't believe in insurance (Musslims).  However Musslims were the largest group.  And yes, they don't have to pay a tax on health care for some dumb reason.  He ignored the National day of Prayer twice, but celebrated Ramadan.  No other presidents as far as I know have entered a Mosque to pray.  If this health care doesn't get scrapped, you will probably see Baptist health care, Catholic health care, and others to avoid the government interference.  It opens a can of worms. 

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« Reply #101 on: October 29, 2010, 09:58:37 AM »
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.  Obama went to a black racist chruch for 20 years.  This church also honored Louis Farikan a Muslim.  No real Christian church would honor such a racist as Farikan, nor a Muslim.  He was raised and registered as a Muslim in Indonesia while in school (2 years in a Muslim school, 2 in a Catholic school).  His mother was an atheist.  He abandoned his 20 year religion to get elected.  He will not compromise with Republicans on anything.  No items the Republicans wanted were included in the health care bill.  The economy was the main issue, not health care.  The Bible says not to have fellowship with unbelievers.  So why does he celebrate Ramadan and not the National day of Prayer?  He has visited Muslim nations, but not Isreal?  He has snubbed our European allies.  Look at his past, look at his record, he associated with William Ayers, Rev. Wright, etc.  If he is not a Muslim, he is sympathetic to them because of his background.  But he definately is not a Christian in my book.  I'm judging his Fruit.  Jesus said not to judge, but He said by their Fruit you shall know them.

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« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2010, 11:25:09 AM »
I am going to add my 2 cents here.  This post is not directed at anyone in particular.  I am just going to make some short statements.

In Islam, Jesus is regarded as a lesser prophet, as is Moses. Jesus is not the Son of God in Islam, yet is the Messiah plain and simple.

Islam regards people not of the faith as infidels, or Kafir.  The Koran states the people are to be killed.  The Koran specifically calls for Muslims (those who submit to the will of Allah) to "smite the necks" of those who do not believe and refuse conversion to islam. (see "victory mosque" thread for citation.

I have seen the instances where BO has claimed Muslim faith, and Muslims do NOT allow infidels in their places of worship.  The fact that BO was allowed in a mosque to pray speaks volumes to me.

A Christian is not someone who removes references to God, or the Creator, in quotes from such enshrined documents as the declaration of Independence and the United States Constituion.

We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

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« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2010, 11:35:47 AM »
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Furthermore, BO claims he is is pro-abortion, pro-choice.  Exodus 20:13 commands "Thou shalt not kill".  Either he refused to learn that in Catholic school, or they did not teach him English or to read in either the Catholic or Muslim school.

BO has said he favors the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" regarding gays openly serving in the military.  Homosexuality is a sin, in Christianity and Islam. Leviticus 18:22 states: "Thou [mankind] shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

In short, if BO is a self-professed Christian, he has denied the sanctity of God's statutes and defiled his faith. Same goes for Islam.

Leviticus 20:7-8 states: "Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.  And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am the LORD which sanctify you."

Here endeth the lesson.
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« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2010, 11:52:45 AM »
We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

Show your appreciation for Islam....eat more bacon.

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« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2010, 07:31:45 PM »
The proverbial wolf in sheeps clothing. Smiles and shakes your hand then stabs you in the back as you turn to walk away.

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« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2010, 11:17:22 AM »
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BO has said he favors the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" regarding gays openly serving in the military.  Homosexuality is a sin, in Christianity and Islam. Leviticus 18:22 states: "Thou [mankind] shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

In short, if BO is a self-professed Christian, he has denied the sanctity of God's statutes and defiled his faith. Same goes for Islam.
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Here endeth the lesson.ST762

Wait! Don't end the lesson yet! On the homosexuality stuff... this is sexual sin, right? Like fornication? Is getting laid without being married the same, sin-wise, as being a homosexual? Or being a homosexual, who isn't celibate?
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« Reply #107 on: October 30, 2010, 01:47:27 PM »
yellow. Sin is sin. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #108 on: October 30, 2010, 05:11:09 PM »
Muslims are excluded from buying insurance in the health care bill

Are they? Provide chapter and verse of the bill, please (I'm pretty sure you can't, except in the most expansive & imaginative reading)

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The new Obamacare legislation that was forced on unwilling Americans this week specifically mandates that we all purchase health insurance. That is, unless you don’t believe in that sort of thing. That’s right, the current health care bill contains a clause which exempts certain individuals form the requirements and penalties set forth in it.


EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.


—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information:

In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a
member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian,
or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.”

Senate Bill, H.R. 3590, pages 273-274

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There are several reasons why an individual could claim exemption, being a member of a religion that does not believe in insurance is one of them. Islam is one of those religions. Muslims believe that health insurance is “haraam”, or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling.  This belief excludes them from any of the requirements, mandates, or penalties set forth in the bill.  Other excluded groups include Amish, American Indians, and Christian Scientists.

So, is it that easy?  Is simply being a member of an “recognized religious sect” enough to exempt an individual from Obamacare?  Not quite…the information provided by each individual must first be verified against the records of the Social Security Administration, and possibly Homeland Security, in order to prove citizenship and religious status.   If the records are found to be consistent with the information for the individual applying for exemption, only then are they eligible.   If the records are found to inconsistent with such information, the individual applying for exemption is given 90 days to clear up any possible errors with the reporting agencies.   That 90 day period can be extended upon the discretion of the Secretary of applicable agencies.  If, by the end of this period, the information is still not cleared up, the individual can then apply for an appeal.  Whereby exemption can be decided, or reevaluated on a periodic basis,  by the individual agencies in question.  The appeals process is determined by the individual agencies involved

In short, each individual applying for exemption must verify that they are citizens and that they are actually members of a “recognized religious sect.”

If the individual can make it through all of the bureaucracy involved in this process, they can then obtain exemption.  Trust me the federal government doesn’t want to make it easy for anyone to get out of participating in the system.

The real question is,  ”which religions qualify for exemption?”  It’s easy to argue that Muslims, Christian Scientists, and the Amish will be “recognized,”  because they have a moral conflict with insurance.  However, what argument will Christians be able to make for exemption?  Will they be able to claim exemption due to a moral conflict with publicly funded abortions?  Not likely.


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« Reply #109 on: October 30, 2010, 06:28:04 PM »
Gotta Love it Tommyt!
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« Reply #110 on: October 30, 2010, 11:47:30 PM »
And yes, he is giving in to the muzzies by appeasing them here at home at every opportunity.

How so?

How about his refusal to refer to Muslim terrorists as Terrorists? How about the way he handled the Ft Hood incident?

He is trying to appease muslims.
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« Reply #111 on: October 31, 2010, 05:12:51 AM »
CABIN 4. YEP. How about cancelling national day of prayer?? How bout celebrating rummydum with his brothers in the whitehouse, hosting several feasts for them at days end. How bout holding godless prayer at the whitehouse several Xs a week for his brothers. How about cancelling a REAL Christians prayer there??? The list goes on and on.
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« Reply #112 on: October 31, 2010, 02:59:12 PM »
Well nice to see things havent got boring while I have been absent. Wow..... yellowtail certainly seems to seems to have to have a talent for annoying. i popped back in expecting TM7 to have the forum on edge as usual (at least when I left it was so) and i find this yellowtail guy fanning the flames.

Christian or not...muslim or not.....socialist or not.....communist or not......all I need to know is he sat in church and listened to that hate spewing rev. wright for 20 years and did not walk to the pulpit and smack the bejesus out of the guy and that means in my opinion he does not qualify for the office he holds. I expect a President of this Nation to love this country as much as i do. Maybe not the best way to qualify a president but it works for me. 
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« Reply #113 on: October 31, 2010, 07:14:25 PM »
kinslayer,

Imam Obama is a Muslim, and and has admitted it himself.  Review the links in my above posting.

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« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2010, 04:23:24 AM »
YEP. Bummer is a lot of things, Christian aint one of them. Can hardly wait til tommorrow to vote. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2010, 05:02:42 AM »
 He's made a habit of pretending.  He pretends to be President of the United States! He pretends to care about our Country and us. So why surprised that he pretends to be Christian?

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« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2010, 05:04:47 AM »
I did not mean for anyone to think I believe his claims to be a Christian. I was just saying he does not meet my most minimum standard to hold the office of POTUS. I like a number of people on this forum, with the exception of the yellowtail guy, think he is a muslim. I also think he is a socialist at best and a communist at worst. Seems to be running the clouder, piven and alinsky playbook to the letter. He is trying to redistibute the wealth in this country but then again that seems to be a standard dem thing. The more people they can get dependent upon them with their entitlement programs the more votes they figure to garner.

I think the dems are going to get a rude awakening tomorrow!!!
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« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2010, 05:40:20 AM »
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HEH. I hope you are right, the ruder the better. Your asessment of yellow is right on, tm has trained him and a few others well. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2010, 10:10:28 AM »
POTUS Obama. P#$@ing Off The United States.  And yes, homosexuality is a sin, even if you are on the "down low".

here endeth the rant.

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« Reply #119 on: November 01, 2010, 10:18:39 AM »
Continued

BO has said he favors the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" regarding gays openly serving in the military.  Homosexuality is a sin, in Christianity and Islam. Leviticus 18:22 states: "Thou [mankind] shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

In short, if BO is a self-professed Christian, he has denied the sanctity of God's statutes and defiled his faith. Same goes for Islam.
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Here endeth the lesson.ST762

Wait! Don't end the lesson yet! On the homosexuality stuff... this is sexual sin, right? Like fornication? Is getting laid without being married the same, sin-wise, as being a homosexual? Or being a homosexual, who isn't celibate?
Never heard of sexual sin , its called sin if the flesh . It is using the temple (your body) in sin . Some consider this one of the worst sins you can commit. You do not keep your body free of sin or clean. Your body is a gift from God and you should take care of it , it is one thing you can control even though many do not .
If ya can see it ya can hit it !