Marxist militias

[ironglow]

  Chavez says his militia should be armed at all times..that will keep the people in line, won't it!
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/03/AR2010100303313_pf.html

  Does that sound familiar? Remember BHO's "civilian defense force..equally funded and trained as our regular armed forces"..     
        Obama's 'Brownshirts' may still be waiting in the wings...and if the Democrats can get our guns taken away..

   Strange, how these Marxist minds all run in the same channels (or is that gutters)?

[bilmac]

Yea like them armed to the teeth and us naked.

[Tommyt]

Chavez: Civilian militia should be armed full-time

By IAN JAMES
The Associated Press
Sunday, October 3, 2010; 6:55 PM



CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that members of the country's civilian militia should be issued weapons to be armed and ready at all times.

The Bolivarian Militia is a force of volunteers ranging from students to retirees formed in recent years by Chavez, who says it is a crucial component of the nation's defenses.

Until now, members of the militia have regularly trained at weekend boot camps, but their guns have usually been locked away in military depots when not in use.

"Who has seen a militia without weapons?" Chavez said during his Sunday television and radio program. He said he was surprised when he met some militiamen standing guard recently and learned they had no guns.

"The militias are the people with weapons in hand," Chavez told an audience including military officers and high-ranking officials in rural Guarico state.

"We need to break old paradigms because we're still seeing the militias as if they were a complementary force, some battalions that get together once a month over there, or go and march somewhere," Chavez said. "No, buddy. The militia is a permanent territorial unit and it should be armed, equipped and trained - campesinos, workers."

Chavez also suggested that the country should accelerate the formation of militia units.

The militia is named after Simon Bolivar, the independence hero who is an inspiration for Chavez, and its members range from housewives to engineers to public employees. Men and women in the militia regularly attend weekend training sessions where they learn to fire cannons, mortars and machine guns.

Diosdado Cabello, one of Chavez's longtime confidants, has said the militia comprises about 120,000 fighters and is growing.

Chavez, who survived a failed coup in 2002, says the militia should be prepared to defend the country against any threat, foreign or domestic. He has said he believes the United States poses a threat to his oil-exporting country, though U.S. officials strongly deny it.

Opponents of the leftist president say the militia is essentially a personal army for Chavez aimed at intimidating his adversaries, maintaining control and keeping him in power

[ironglow]

  They ARE just alike;
  OPbama nationalizes Chrysler, siome banks and General Motors and working toward nationalizing health care..
  Chavez has nationalized many things and today has nationalized (read stolen) a British food company..

      http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.649318c517e989a6cb277015a7fa72dd.12a1&show_article=1

[Junior1942]

  They ARE just alike;
  OPbama nationalizes Chrysler, siome banks and General Motors and

Wrong.  100% of the "nationalization" of Chrysler and the beginning of the rest took place under -- drum roll, please --- GW Bush.  Wasn't he a Republican?

[Hooker]

Junior your right  Bush was no peach but he had the full backing of a democrat legislature and the democrat party.

[Spirithawk]

Hey, we have our own militia that is armed at all times. They're called Red Necks. 

[myronman3]

do you really think chavez is going to give his people guns and bullets?  they hate his guts.  i hope he does give them guns....but he wont. 

[Oldshooter]

  They ARE just alike;
  OPbama nationalizes Chrysler, siome banks and General Motors and

Wrong.  100% of the "nationalization" of Chrysler and the beginning of the rest took place under -- drum roll, please --- GW Bush.  Wasn't he a Republican?

No actually you're wrong junior, Bush started the bailout process for the auto makers, but your "bro" nationalized chrysler and GM . check your dates!

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/04/17/nationalizing-chrysler/

[crustylicious]

Kudos to both Bush and Obama for being pro-active. I don't think most people realize how close we were to a real catastrophe.

[mechanic]

Kudos to both Bush and Obama for being pro-active. I don't think most people realize how close we were to a real catastrophe.

Today we are closer to a worse catastrophe.  Add a couple trillion to the catastrophe we were close to before.  At some point the bill comes due. 

This is  the fault not just of BO, but for a succession of presidents before him who failed to face the looming disaster. 

[wreckhog]

Hey, we have our own militia that is armed at all times. They're called Red Necks. 

That is true. We have a lot of militias in this country, mostly down south. And now there is the Tea Party.

[Mikey]

Yes, we may have a lot of militia groups in this country but you are going to have to do some serious convincing that these groups are anything more than a bunch of guys with guns.  The Militia needs to be a trained, disciplined and organized force of men capable of conducting military action and until you see that you have little more than a bunch of guys with guns. 

The term 'Militia' in this country began with the colonists organizing and training to support the British forces during the French and Indian Wars - that's how George Washington got his military experience.  The 'Militia' in the 'Colonies' met and trained quite regularly and became a very capable force that the British found, far too late, were much more capable than they thought. 

The Tea Party is not a 'Militia' any more than obama's brownshirts are a militia.  the obama crowd may be marxist in nature or orientation but at present, if there is such a group that has even been formed, are little more than socialista party thugs who all wear the same color shirts and underpants.  If you give them guns they will simply be armed thugs, not a Militia and their role in society may well be to continue to foster such civil unrest and violence that martial law would have to be established to maintain social order (or a social order....). 

Look at it this way - if there was so much as one 'Militia' group in this country that was worth a damn they should have made their presence known at the Waco debacle but not a damn one showed up to contain and/or attempt to control a minor federal quasi-military force (batf, fbi,etc.). There is the possibility that should there exist the obama brownshirt brigade it might truly foster a return of the real Militia groups of the American revolution, and they would be worth joining.  jmtcw.

[williamlayton]

I suspect that there are some folks here that are part of "some" militia group.
I am not impressed with these groups---they seem to be more swagger and psudo-intimidation than a real attempt at doing something.
I would support a two/three year draft and continueing training for all Americans.
It should be noted that "We the people" are the ones these/this army is bound too--not we the administration.
While the administration "should" support the people it seems that someone has got it backwards and the "we the people" should support the administration.
In the end a revolution would be defined by who is supporting the administration and "we the people"--which includes the military, would have need, individually, to declare their loyality.
gonna be interesting folks.
Blessings

[Dixie Dude]

Loaning money to large companies in trouble is not all the time wrong.  Reagan loaned Chrysler money back in the 1980's, BUT he didn't take the company over.  It was a 1% loan until they got solvent.  One of the main reasons, Chrysler was the contractor for the new M1A1 tank.  Bush was going to do the same, a loan.  Obama took a stock swap instead, so the government now owns Chrysler and GM as well as AIG mortgage insurance company.  The government also owns Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage companies.  With Obama it is only a matter of time before they start owning mining companies, oil companies, power and gas companies, maybe even phone companies.  If the government took over the stock of all the failing companies, we then go total socialism, and only a short distance from there to communism.  Obama doesn't want the economy to get better, he wants it down so he can take over companies, and have more people on the government dole dependency.  Bush said after he was out of office that he didn't really want to bail out any company, he wanted them to go throught bankrupcy reorganization or sell outs to other companies.  He said all his advisors said to bail out the banks.  

[slim rem 7]

 yes it is..

[Oldshooter]

Hey, we have our own militia that is armed at all times. They're called Red Necks. 

That is true. We have a lot of militias in this country, mostly down south. And now there is the Tea Party.

It would be a great Idea for you leftist obama lovers to go to a tea party rally and see who and what they are! They aren't militia, radical, or right wingers, and they aren't racist. The tea party movement are just Middle America people that are concerned that the government is growing to big and is spending way to much of their children's future just to get more control and power.

But I'll bet ya wont cause then you would see what foolish propaganda you have been spewing!


And "kudos to Bush" Man you must be smoking some good stuff to have said that crusty.

[nw_hunter]

Kudos to both Bush and Obama for being pro-active. I don't think most people realize how close we were to a real catastrophe.

What catastrophe is that? Splain please!

[wreckhog]

The Tea Party is not a 'Militia' any more than obama's brownshirts are a militia.

+1

[wreckhog]

Hey, we have our own militia that is armed at all times. They're called Red Necks. 

That is true. We have a lot of militias in this country, mostly down south. And now there is the Tea Party.

The tea party movement are just Middle America people.

So were the Brown Shirts for a while

[wreckhog]

Kudos to both Bush and Obama for being pro-active. I don't think most people realize how close we were to a real catastrophe.

What catastrophe is that? Splain please!

Dow 1000. There were plenty of folks that sold at the bottom believing it was not the bottom.

[ironglow]

 They ARE just alike;
  OPbama nationalizes Chrysler, siome banks and General Motors and

Wrong.  100% of the "nationalization" of Chrysler and the beginning of the rest took place under -- drum roll, please --- GW Bush.  Wasn't he a Republican?

     Junior;
   Spin as hard as you can and the Republicans have their warts also (that's why I am not one)...but only one of the two major parties has endorsed a nationwide civilian militia (under govt control of course)...and only one of the two parties have been striving to destroy the second amendment.
  BTW: Reminder; only one of the parties in the US, has striven to disarm the people ! Worldwide; the Communists of Russia, the Soviet Union, China & Cuba as well as the Nazis of Germany and the Fascists of Italy have done the same.

  BTW: Bush talked load..Obama did 'takeover'.

[ironglow]

  Sorry;
  But anyone who calls the Tea Partyu "militia" is just plain ignorant..and taking their cues from the lamestream media..
  
   I have associated with the Tea Party people and can assure the uninformed that they are just hard working, average citizens..fed up with crooked politicians.
    The real problem is that percentage of people who are loyal lemmings..and will follow a crooked politician to Hell in the name of an outdated bunch of gangsters called a "party".

[crustylicious]

Collapse of the banking system and 20%+ unemployment.

from wikepedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

Originally expected to cost the U.S. Government $356 billion, the most recent estimates of the cost, as of September 30, 2010, is down to at most $50 billion.[1] This is significantly less than the taxpayers' cost of the Savings and loan crisis of the late 1980s. The cost of that crisis amounted to 3.2% of GDP during the Reagan/Bush era, while the GDP percentage of the current crisis' cost is estimated at less than 1%.[2] While it was once feared the government would be holding companies like GM, AIG and Citigroup for several years, those companies are preparing to buy back the Treasury's stake and emerge from TARP within a year.[3] Of the $245 billion invested in U.S. banks, over $169 billion has been paid back, including $13.7 billion in dividends, interest and other income, along with $4 billion in warrant proceeds as of April 2010. AIG is considered "on track" to pay back $51 billion from divestitures of two units and another $32 billion in securities.[4] In March 2010, GM repaid more than $2 billion to the U.S. and Canadian governments and on April 21 GM announced the entire loan portion of the U.S. and Canadian governments' investments had been paid back in full, with interest, for a total of $8.1 billion.[5] This was, however, subject to contention because it was argued that the automaker simply shuffled federal bailout funds to pay back taxpayers

[wreckhog]

 Sorry;
  But anyone who calls the Tea Partyu "militia" is just plain ignorant..and taking their cues from the lamestream media..

Same could be said of the original poster in this thread.

[Dixie Dude]

We have a TEA party group in my county of over 100,000 people and there is NO milita groups representative of the TEA party here.  Lies from the left to smear the TEA party.  Most here are small business owners, professionals, and people who actually work for a living.  There may be someone somewhere who is a member of a militia and a member of a TEA party, but not the TEA party as a whole.  Are Masons and Shriners a militia?  They sure have a lot of gun shows around here in them. 

[Oldshooter]

This was, however, subject to contention because it was argued that the automaker simply shuffled federal bailout funds to pay back taxpayers

EXACTLY! THEY HAVE NOT PAID BAck a damned thing!

[Pat/Rick]

Militia Act 1792. We are all in it. If Chavez wants a civilian militia thats okay.Sovereignty in action.

[ironglow]

 Sorry;
  But anyone who calls the Tea Partyu "militia" is just plain ignorant..and taking their cues from the lamestream media..

Same could be said of the original poster in this thread.

  Not worth a reply..go back to nursing on your liberal formula bottle..

[ironglow]

 Chavez says his militia should be armed at all times..that will keep the people in line, won't it!
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/03/AR2010100303313_pf.html

  Does that sound familiar? Remember BHO's "civilian defense force..equally funded and trained as our regular armed forces"..      
        Obama's 'Brownshirts' may still be waiting in the wings...and if the Democrats can get our guns taken away..

   Strange, how these Marxist minds all run in the same channels (or is that gutters)?

  unds like Chavez is expecting and getting ready for some kind of an attack..covert or otherwise direct.....


..TM7
.

 Right TM, I presume that by now there are many suffering under his "progressive" dictates...who are are ready to say "enough" ! No more !