I have a Win .300 WSM,using 180 gr. power points.I like it very much.Shoots very well a still targets at 100+ yrds.Only hunt southern whitetails with it.Maybe overkill...don't know...havn't seen a deer to try it on.I did see a turk...but I let him walk :grin: .Btw,I've seen 9 turks,maybe I should take my 12 ga. next deer hunting trip and leave rifle at home.On the .300,it's Mod 70 "Super Shadow".Weight a little under 7 lbs. w/scope.I think Winchester may have "missed the boat" here;cuz it sure kicks like h--l.Maybe I should drill end of stack out and add some lead shot to make it heavier. Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't aim at anything I don't intead to shoot & I don't shoot anything I don't intead to kill"