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muslim has the right to rape.
« on: October 09, 2010, 06:37:05 AM »
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http://www.sodahead.com/living/new-jersey-judge-rules-muslim-mans-right-to-rape-as-religious-freedom/blog-398551/



A nj judge ruled that mohamed had the right to rape his wife because of religious freedom. I recon murdering infidels will be judged religious freedom next. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 08:35:12 AM »
Once a part of sharia is granted, the rest will be lobbied/petitioned for. The government would kill Native American Indians for exercising their religious acts, like the sun dance, but they give free reign to acts of spousal abuse? Hmmmm.

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 08:40:00 AM »
liberals are going to hand this country over to the muslims on a silver platter
Hi NSA! Can you see how many fingers I am holding up?

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 09:03:41 AM »
The Camel Jock should have been Jailed
and Yes I'll call Him what I feel fit
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Liberals running interference for Islam while bashing Christianity and Judiasm, can see the results of their Sharia friendly liberal judge activism in the New Jersey case of “S.D. v. M.J.R. (N.J. Super. Ct. App. Div.)” In this recent case, a judge declared Rape acceptable because of Muslim cultural traditions.


The Quran gives husbands supreme authority over a woman.


Muhammad said: "If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning" (Bukhari 4.54.460). He also said: "By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle" (Ibn Majah 1854).


But this is America and you would think that American criminal and Constitutional law would prohibit rape. Well, as Sharia slowly attempts to make inroads, pillars of justice are beginning to crumble.


In New Jersey, a judge saw no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife, NOT because he didn’t do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs. In denying the woman an Order of Protection, the judge stated:


"This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited."


The rapes took place 2008 and on the night of January 15 to 16, 2009. Of this, nobody disagrees. While raping the pleading woman, the Muslim man said “You are my wife, I can do anything to you. The woman, she should submit and do anything I ask her to do.”


We are not talking about an ignorant immigrant man here although that shouldn’t matter. He worked as an Accountant in America. But in an era where liberals scream about religious freedom to do most anything, maybe they wouldn’t have an objection. They certainly want to prosecute a Doctor who won’t perform a non life threatening abortion because of his religious convictions. They will litigate a Church into non-existence for not performing an alleged Gay Marriage.


Certainly the alleged Woman’s Movement said nothing about a Muslim man having the right of rape. Cowardice seems to trump conviction in their case.


Luckily, the appellate court overturned this decision, and a Sharia ruling by an American court has not been allowed to stand… FOR NOW

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 12:24:02 PM »
It's right in the article - the ruling was overturned on appeal, as it should be.  The system has checks and balances to protect against this sort of thing.  They worked.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 02:26:40 PM »
It's right in the article - the ruling was overturned on appeal, as it should be.  The system has checks and balances to protect against this sort of thing.  They worked.



As long as pantywetter judges are allowed to serve, the system still stinks. Judges like the first one should be disbarred and NEVER be allowed to practice law, unless they go to iran or the Godless nation of their choice. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 02:49:34 PM »
Overturned or not, it is discusting that the liberal parasites have infected our country so far that a ruling like this was even put out to need to be overturned.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2010, 04:16:10 PM »
Overturned or not, it is discusting that the liberal parasites have infected our country so far that a ruling like this was even put out to need to be overturned.



YEP. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2010, 05:11:48 PM »
YES YES and YES
the First needs to be removed
He is NOT a Man there for could not be a Judge

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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2010, 07:07:49 PM »
Takes a real big man to beat and rape a woman, right????? WRONG, it takes a very small one, no man at all. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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Re: muslim has the right to rape.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 07:50:59 PM »
Has it occured to some of you that this action is NOT considered rape in parts of the world and in this case the man acted what is legal in his culture. I presume his wife forgot that.  ::)

So the second court dealt with it, now the guy knows it doesn't fly in the west. He can move back to his homeland if it doesn't suit him ;)

Hopefully his wife helps him pack for himself. :D
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 04:16:09 AM »
tm. HEH, I had no doubt you would defend that scum. No, means NO. Make all the excuses you want, but REAL men don't force women to have sex, even their wives. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 05:08:32 AM »
Likewise the Bible gives the husband authority............

Ephesians 5:22-33

 22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

 24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 05:31:15 AM »
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..."watch out for the dual loyalist islamophobes; they don't tell the whole Truth" for a reason....they ALWAYS resort to name calling and ridicule when they are exposed...LOL.



HEH. Who did I call a name??? Oh yeah, the scum that raped his wife, yep, guilty as charged. What am I a dual loyalist to???? POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 05:33:18 AM »
I do not see how having sex with your wife could ever be rape! If I am on the jury it wan't be!
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 05:39:25 AM »
tm. HEH, I had no doubt you would defend that scum. No, means NO. Make all the excuses you want, but REAL men don't force women to have sex, even their wives. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D

Spoken like a true islamophobe dual loyalists.  Nobody is defending abuse of women...just in the wide open spaces of your mind is this craziness and old canard throwing.  You tried to further your dual loyalty hatred agenda using a story that has a lot more to it then your lame assertions.

People are figuring this out..."watch out for the dual loyalist islamophobes; they don't tell the whole Truth" for a reason....they ALWAYS resort to name calling and ridicule when they are exposed...LOL.


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Hmm I only see one feller doing any name calling here. WHat a sad new low you have dropped to TM. Defending the rape of a woman. Keep spewing this kinda crap and we will not invite you to the BBQ.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 06:01:25 AM »
I do not see how having sex with your wife could ever be rape! If I am on the jury it wan't be!
                       Beerbelly

Physically forcing or using threat of violence to have sex with any person who does not willingly consent regardless of marital status is rape.
The fact that you say you can not see the difference between raping your wife and and loving her is sickening.

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 07:01:42 AM »
So force means what? Beat them up a little bit? Slap them? Hold them down with your strength?  Threaten them too?

Seems to me there are already laws in this state for domestic violence and such.  I don't see how the law can be twisted to take certain rights away from a person (the wife?) to give someone else what they think is a right. (sex?)  ???

If we are talking about a contract between two people, I did not see anything where I could beat someone up and drag them around or hold them down.
If we are talking about religion, vows were taken by most of us to love, honor and protect our wives.
If we are only talking about Muslims...prosecute them to the full extent of the law for domestic violence same as an American, it only takes one punch or slap to do this. State law overrides most anything I would think when it comes to abuse. They are not above any domestic violence laws. 

The problem I see with most of this is one person loses a right, so another person gains a right. Seems gaining rights these days is always at the expense of someone elses rights.

I think self defense can be used against force of any kind...or do our wives also lose their right to defend themselves as well?

Also...if the law gets twisted so that people can "force" sex on their wives...what does the law say when the wife decides to defend herself with deadly force to keep from getting beat up or held down again?  Does this "contract" between two people also take away someones right to self defense as well?

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I do not see how having sex with your wife could ever be rape! If I am on the jury it wan't be!
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I don't see how having sex with a wife against her will is having sex "with your wife" at all. This is one person having sex in my book. 
If I am on the jury and the wife has not split his skull with a tire iron or shot him yet, I will do my best to stop it from a jury.
Obviously, there are contracts that should be ended before it gets to this point.   






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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2010, 07:25:51 AM »
I do not see how having sex with your wife could ever be rape! If I am on the jury it wan't be!
                       Beerbelly

As said, rape is forcing someone into a sexual encounter by force or threat of violence.  Whether or not you're married to the victim is completely and utterly irrelevant. 

As said, no means no.  A woman marrying you doesn't make her your slave.

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2010, 07:48:19 AM »
The problem I see with most of this is one person loses a right, so another person gains a right. Seems gaining rights these days is always at the expense of someone elses rights.

One can not gain rights, rights are some thing you had from the beginning.
A true right of a person or group never infringes on the true right of another person or group.
In this case the wife although she has no right to be protected she does have the right to protect herself.
The husband on the other hand has no right to that which he is pursuing and that is to enslave someone to his will.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2010, 09:26:04 AM »
I see some of you girlie men agree with the NOW group. A woman’s body is hers to do with as she pleases, to give it to the guy next door but say no to her husband!
 Well I am a little old fashioned and just don't see it that way!
    While I would not fight her for it, I sure as hell would put her on the road
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2010, 09:43:34 AM »
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I see some of you girlie men agree with the NOW group. A woman’s body is hers to do with as she pleases, to give it to the guy next door but say no to her husband!
 Well I am a little old fashioned and just don't see it that way!
    While I would not fight her for it, I sure as hell would put her on the road
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Well, I don't know we were talking about that, least I wasn't, but since you brought that type of situation up which is much different than the the title of this thread, I would say yes, break the contract and put her on the road (or one of you hit the road)  Raping her is still not the answer to that situation either.

I like the term "girlie men" though, heard it on Sturday night live, it's kind of funny.  You have to say it with an accent though.  :D


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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2010, 10:36:44 AM »
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As said, rape is forcing someone into a sexual encounter by force or threat of violence.  Whether or not you're married to the victim is completely and utterly irrelevant. 


I think your first sentence is true. But I think legally, until very recently, your second sentence is false in most states...so being married is very relevant in these cases.  Just the way it is or was.....Times change of course, but this opens a whole can of legal worms when wives accuse husbands of rape, especially if accused on a whim or for revenge.

We need a lawyers historical opinion on this one, but I think it was very rare indeed for a wife to accuse her husband of rape,,,if ever at all, that is until very recently....talking about so-called Christian western countries here.

Up until fairly recently beating your wife was seen as pretty normal too.  As you say, times (and attitudes) change, and it's not just about being "old fashioned".  Some of it truly is wisening up to reality.

A husband beating his wife (regardless of motives) is wrong, and illegal.  A husband forcing his wife to have sex is also wrong, and illegal.  No ifs, ands, buts, or "needs to be looked at further in court"'s about it.  It's illegal in every state in the union.  You still might have some hesitance on the woman deciding to come forward with it (just as there is with all domestic violence cases), but that in no way affects the legal status of the action.

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2010, 10:49:19 AM »
 domestic violence
It Is what, It Is domestic violence  Period
and to get back on Track with the Post
The Judge should have NOT dismissed this
and Off Post The Queer who did this must have (does) enjoyed the
Power Play Sex act which makes Him Demented ,which I think
Has been said all ready

 and BB "on the Road" Versus, "rape" are Far apart
Rape is Disgusting in Every way you can imagine

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2010, 12:12:07 PM »
JIMSTER. Good post, I agree.
BEERBELLY. I'm shocked, and disappointed at your views concerning spousal rape. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2010, 04:41:58 PM »
 I'm shocked, and disappointed that most of you allow your wife to rule you! Letting the women take over is the main thing wrong with this country. Hell we should have never given them the vote!
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2010, 05:22:00 PM »
I'm shocked, and disappointed that most of you allow your wife to rule you! Letting the women take over is the main thing wrong with this country. Hell we should have never given them the vote!
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 Knock
............ Knock........ is anyone home Upstairs  ???

Who is taking over or ruling, who OR what ?? where are you reading this ?
Your a Bit Lost here BB

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2010, 05:49:28 PM »
BB. I don't understand your reply at all. Refusing to treat a wife like a slave has nothing to do with her being in control, let alone take over. I really don't understand how you can say that. I have a wife, not a slave or servant. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2010, 03:18:18 AM »
 A lot of you here say you are Christians, Swampman posted this--

Ephesians 5:22-33

22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Now, do you believe or not? Some want to pick and choose what parts to believe. I think that is called a hypocrite.

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Re: muslim has the right to rape.
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2010, 03:47:08 AM »
The Word also says, Husbands Love your wife as Christ loved the church and died for it.  The church being the fellowship of believers, not the Catholic church.  If you love your wife, you won't rape her.  Just that simple.  In Islam, they are permitted to have sex with animals also.  In Judiasm it was not permitted, a person was to be executed for doing so.  I think God didn't want man to have sex with animals, because that is where sexually transmitted diseases came from.  For instance sheep carry syphilis.  Green monkeys carry Aids.