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forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« on: October 11, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »
Anybody had any problems with recent forend hanger screw holes popping through lately?  Seems like H&R used to put a better taper on these screw holes in the past.  I have had a couple of screws break right through lately damaging the forend as a result.  I do not think I was doing anything any differently than in the past - i.e., not overtightening the screws or anything like that.  When I inspected the holes, they had little to know taper to retain the screws.

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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 05:37:07 PM »
I too have seen this on the last couple of new ones I bought.
So far no problems but I am extra careful.



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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 07:33:53 PM »
I had the problem fixed once and for all.  ;)







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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2010, 08:10:40 AM »
You can fix it with epoxy, just dont glue the screw in permanently!
Also, all it has to do is hold the forend on, snug to a tad tight is all that is needed.
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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 11:35:04 AM »
Dinny, Great minds think alike....or whatever.  I glued the one that popped through with gorrilla glue and I intend to countersink a washer and use a round-head machine screw.  Have another new one that is getting close.  I generally use my fat wrench and don't over torque these things - so something is a little different.

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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2010, 02:39:32 PM »
To always keep the forend screw torqued the same, I put a 1/4-20 by 1/4" set screw into the mounting hole. I screwed it down tight with some loctite on it. Now when I put the forend screw back in, it always bottoms out on the set screw before I can damage the forend by accident.

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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 03:06:25 PM »
That forearm looks great Dinny... your guy does nice work. ;)
I emailed him about some work too.



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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 03:16:03 PM »
That forearm looks great Dinny... your guy does nice work. ;)
I emailed him about some work too.
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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 11:46:13 AM »
Never ceases to amaze me how little info makes its way from airguns to firearms (and vice versa).  Airgunners have been using forend screw cup kits for decades - because the harsh recoil of hi-powered spring guns may literally tear up the forend stock screw hole.  They are usually a brass (or steel) 'cup' which is inletted/epoxied into forend and used with a lock washer.  Most of the 'higher-end' airguns have them from the factory.

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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 03:06:13 PM »
Dinny,

Couple months back I bought 3 stock sets and the forestocks were modified exactly like yours.  Maybe the same smith, who knows.  Well I only kept one of the barrels so the other two forestocks mods didn't match with the barrels and I got to remove the "black stuff" from the barrel inlets.  I used a dremel and sanding drum.  If you ever remove that stuff with a sander, better wear a mask. :P

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Re: forend hanger screw holes faulty?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 03:43:42 PM »
Dinny,
Couple months back I bought 3 stock sets and the forestocks were modified exactly like yours.  Maybe the same smith, who knows.  Well I only kept one of the barrels so the other two forestocks mods didn't match with the barrels and I got to remove the "black stuff" from the barrel inlets.  I used a dremel and sanding drum.  If you ever remove that stuff with a sander, better wear a mask. :P
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  I saw the post, I'm pretty sure it was the same smith. You could just take out enough to re-glass to the new barrel. Many smiths do that all the time for the Hogue stocks with bedding blocks in them. They're usually close, but hardly a perfect fit like the glass is. ;) I have instructions for the job, if needed.

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