A way to bridge the gulf.

[ironglow]

Here is a way to bridge the gulf between Islam and the USA. O'Reilly had this man Dr Zuhudi Jasser, on his show last night. He is an MD and a veteran of the US Navy. He is described as a devout Muslim but has no time for Jihadism.   http://www.aifdemocracy.org/
   If the radical left would climb down off their moronic PC resting places and begin to give credit to organizations like this, rather than making excuses for a worldwide murder spree, we may find a way out of the fit of ignorance the world has found itself in. By now we should know there is no dealing with Islamofacists. PC Liberals will claim it is a matter of give-and-take. As the whole world has witnessed however, the Islamofacists will take, take, take and when the giver has given all he has..they will kill the giver.
   It is indeed refreshing to find a serious Muslim who is willing to get serious about our constitution and want to share it's values with us.
  Somebody like this we can deal with. If this organization is seriously interested in promoting honest freedom, and it appears it is..we need many more to join us in promoting honest freedom.
  The LAST thing we need is a bunch of PC spouting liberals with vacuum chamber heads telling us how "evil" the USA is.

[yellowtail3]

If the radical left would climb down off their moronic PC resting places and begin to give credit to organizations like this, rather than making excuses for a worldwide murder spree, we may find a way out of the fit of ignorance the world has found itself in.

Who is the radical left, and when have they (?) made excuses for a worldwide murder spree?

[ironglow]

People such as the ones O'Reilly met on "The View" the other day...who couldn't even bring themnselves to admit that it was followers of Muhammad that flew planes into the twin towers.
  With that kind of voluntary blindness we cannot begin to come to grips with the problem. O'Reilly made it clear that he didn't believe that all Muslims are like this, nor even the majority..but the two 'View' dolts who are obviously entirely controlled by the PC foolishness, could not even say that Mohammed Atah or Osama Bin Ladin were Muslims.   ...Guess the bombers were Episcopalians..
 
  C'Mon YT..you must agree we could use more like Dr Zuhudi Jasser and less like Yasser Arafat, Osama Bin Ladin, Mullah Omar and their mad bombers..

[bilmac]

Don't be surprised if Dr. Jasser shows up some day with his head chopped off. That is how the extremists settle arguments. Muslems have been at war with the rest of the world since the religion was created and they have taken over many countries. If you don't know history you are going to repeat it.

[powderman]

IG. HEH, I laughed out loud when whoopie and her clone walked off the stage cause O reily refused to say muslim extremists, and instead said the truth, MUSLIMS DID IT. PLEASE don't think I would ever watch those pantywetters on the view, it was on the news. I wanted to make that clear. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

PM;
   I know where youi're at...I would never have seen the event..were it not on the news..

  Jay Leno said; .... Who would think that a couple women named Whoopi and Joy...would be the first ones to go stomping off mad ?

[ironglow]

  It seems like none of B Hussein's programs are working very well for the USA

  The liberals are saying we should "give him time"
    Well, my friends and I discussed it and we figured... 25 to life...would be just about right..

[nomosendero]

If the radical left would climb down off their moronic PC resting places and begin to give credit to organizations like this, rather than making excuses for a worldwide murder spree, we may find a way out of the fit of ignorance the world has found itself in.

Who is the radical left, and when have they (?) made excuses for a worldwide murder spree?

I guess it was time to crawl out of the cave and ask another one of those questions!        
Oh, here's a couple before I head to work, it took 2.5 minutes, more are easy if needed! 

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/17012

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/29266

[powderman]

I guess it was time to crawl out of the cave and ask another one of those questions!       



HEH. YEP, I reckon so. Ya have to spell it out for yellowt. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

I find it surprising that our resident members who are continually reminding us that most Muslims are moderates and we should differentiate between the two...are not climbing right on this with hurrahs for the good doctor.
  I have heard on 'kudos' for the doctor...just a question seemingly saying the radical left DOESN'T make excuses for the terrorist types.
    I think we all know better than that !
   Where are these self-proclaimed "moderates" and their voices of moderation ?

[powderman]

IG.  Don't knock it, nice and peaceful right now. POWDERMAN. 

[beerbelly]

There is no way to bridge the gulf between yourself and someone that is either going to convert you or kill you! You fight or you surrender, there is no other way!

[powderman]

There is no way to bridge the gulf between yourself and someone that is either going to convert you or kill you! You fight or you surrender, there is no other way!

BEERBELLY. That is 110% all true. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

  Why don't we hear the local Islam supporters saying, "good man, we need more sensible Muslims like him" ?
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWWxWRPSuw

    This guy makes much sense. While liberals work hard to keep Christianity from having any influence on govt, the liberals at PBS ban a man who is Muslim and speaks against having an Islamo-theocracy here.
  Is it any wonder PBS has lost most any credibility it ever had ?

[MGMorden]

Why don't we hear the local Islam supporters saying, "good man, we need more sensible Muslims like him" ?

I don't think we really have an "Islam supporters" on this board.  It's just that many people refuse to acknowledge neutrality as a position.  If you don't want to go reverse-jihad on all the muslims then you MUST be "pro-muslim" to some. 

In any event, it always ends in the frothing of the mouth and declaring that "There can be no peace!!!" yadda, yadda.  It's already starting without any input.  The same old arguments get tiring.  It's amazing how similar the two groups are really.  They both scream the the other needs to be eradicated and accuse anyone without their fervor of being with the "other side".

Tell you what, YOU guys agree that Muslims like this type are at least tolerable, and we'll talk.  Heck half of the other side of the argument so far has been that this type of guy is a figment of our imagination.

[beerbelly]

.  They both scream the the other needs to be eradicated and accuse anyone without their fervor of being with the "other side".

The thing you apologist always forget, we did not attack them they attacked us! They continue their attacks to this very day! Like I said we fight or surrender!

[ironglow]

"Neutrality" is a very difficult position to maintain (IMO) when thousands of our fellow Americans are dead and more dying every day, simply because some people believe they have a right to the 'convert or kill' philosophy.
     In such a situation, it is difficult to visualize any reasonable person, even a "neutral", not embracing Dr. Jasser's. It would be one way of placing an exclamatioin point on their "fairness".
  Some things are just as Pres Bush said while standing upon that wrecked fire engine.."You are either with us, or with the terrorists" !
   In some few situations, there is just no neutral position. Silence is simply a way of tacitly encouraging with the terrorists.


  "The only way for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing"..      Edmund Burke