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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2010, 04:32:48 PM »
One again, poor quality garbage that needs to steal from the taxpayer to keep solvent.

you obviously didn't listen to the piece on the Sunni Awakening I linked - 'Iraq After Us' - why else would you write something so stoopid?
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2010, 05:03:50 PM »
NPR would not be on the air if it weren't for them getting tax money stolen from the tax payers. And old yellow, no I don't need to listen to anything you would link as quality programming, as with pretty much everyone else here your posts and belief system is invalid.

BTW are you trying to get in as old TM's second fiddle at the BBQ? If so post your catch phrase. You must know his is "the Jews did it" what is yours?
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2010, 06:02:34 PM »
If Wiki is right, NPR does not really get public funding and has not for 30 years. Member stations do to some degree, but they are not NPR the organization, they are just members of the organization. Juan worked for NPR, not its members. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is a private company. I suppose that you might make the case that every non profit is government funded in some way, just not directly. Including every religious organzation.

In 2009, NPR revenues totaled $164 million, with the bulk of revenues coming from programming fees, grants, contributions and sponsorships. According to the 2009 financial statement, about 40% of NPR revenues come from the fees it charges member stations to receive programming. Typically, NPR member stations raise funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, and grants from state governments, universities, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from local government funding and 10% of their revenue from the federal funding in the form of CPB grants. NPR receives no direct funding from the federal government. About 1.5% of NPR's revenues come from Corporation for Public Broadcasting grants.

During the 1970s and early 1980s, the majority of NPR funding came from the federal government. Steps were taken during the 1980s to completely wean NPR from government support, but the 1983 funding crisis forced the network to make immediate changes. More money to fund the NPR network was raised from listeners, charitable foundations and corporations instead.

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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2010, 06:11:18 PM »
Wreck you aint even good enough for third fiddle, but I might have a place for you as bathroom attendent.

BYW NPR is publically funded.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2010, 06:21:18 PM »
And old yellow, no I don't need to listen to anything you would link as quality programming, as with pretty much everyone else here your posts and belief system is invalid.

Hmmm... you're speshul here, are you?
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2010, 06:35:57 PM »
And old yellow, no I don't need to listen to anything you would link as quality programming, as with pretty much everyone else here your posts and belief system is invalid.

Hmmm... you're speshul here, are you?

Nope your just invalid. There is nothing of value to be learned from your liberal parasitic theology. But hey you will make a good setup guy for old TM at the BBQ, I'll consider you if you will share your catch phrase with us, we all know old TM has "the jews did it", what's yours?
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2010, 07:01:52 PM »
Nope your just invalid. There is nothing of value to be learned from your liberal parasitic theology.
you have GOT to be a MoveOn plant, pretending to be a conservative so as to give the appearance that conservatives/hunters are like... you.

ugh....
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2010, 03:05:36 AM »
I believe NPR is not for profit and any tax receipts are minimized..it is also a training ground for future journalist and broadcasters.

TM7, NPR is obviously well known to be tax dollar supported, and is liberal government friendly. Your anti-government stance seems to contridict your above statement.

Taxpayers also support FOXy,,,when FOXy zeroes out their tax liability that amounts to citizens subsidizing them....a much more insipid 'public' funding.

This last statement is a mystery. Do you know this for a fact, or is your anti-Fox news attitude causing you to speculate without evidence? While I believe Fox to be just another propaganda machine, much in the same as CNN, and others, but on the opposite side, this would mean that they (all news medias) are all guilty of doing the same. Their hiring of Williams was just a demo of this.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2010, 03:48:24 AM »
Yes I do have an anti-NPR stance, as I don't believe tax dollars should be paying for political opinion, REGARDLESS of which side it supports, and if you look at many of the foundations that support NPR along with the government dollars, you will see that they are big money liberal agenda foundations and are actually announced on air by name, though not by agenda.

Now TM7, as far as Fox News, I will say that you can get "a little truth" out of them depending on whom is talking at the time, as you will likewise get the same from "some" of the other stations, and I will "wager" that, like me, YOU also look for those TAX DEDUCTIONS, as does everyother business or individual.
Their promotion of endless war, and endless interviews of folks like Gingrich, McCain, and others the general public has rejected is obvious. You know my views on party voting, and the Iraq and lately the Afgan wars, and the "lessor of" methods, and you know that we will not agree on the stance you have on the State of Israel, so there is no need to discuss it. As far as your last question, it was unreadable, and I have no answer for you. Some things, and some folks, I will not address, or acknowledge. You know that as well.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2010, 04:26:42 AM »
Where did you get the recipe for rat poison?  That was a streach of the facts.  TM7 would you please list the latest cover ups and twisted news from Fox?  I had my accountant go over the Fox accounting factors none of what you said is true.  The facts are the information you are putting out is from a number of left wing unions.  You are in the wrong place most of the people on this forum  are not led around by some union thugs.
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« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2010, 05:01:55 AM »
In a free country govt. should not fund anything it regulates other than military.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2010, 06:45:32 AM »
Yellowtail3: I don't care if you are Liberal, Conservative or What(?). Don't you dare have the gall to hold out on that story about the spike buck.  >:( ;). Now, darnnit, TELL the story ;D ;D God Bless to all.

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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2010, 07:05:40 AM »
Yellowtail3: I don't care if you are Liberal, Conservative or What(?). Don't you dare have the gall to hold out on that story about the spike buck.  >:( ;). Now, darnnit, TELL the story ;D ;D God Bless to all.

Alright, Goofy... last Saturday I went in the morning, nada. I'd set it up where there were three scrapes within a few yards of each other, about fifty yards from creek. Lots of oaks and small trees, can't see far from climber with all the leaves still up. Back in the tree with the Marlin by 4pm... around 6:30pm there's that wonderful half-hour or so when everything gets real quiet. I hear that crunch... crunch... crunch... and I'm thinking this is too easy... but can't see him, it's getting dim. Then catch a view of the deer - looked like a middling-sized doe, what can I tell? - at around sixty yards next to creek, mostly getting silhouette. I'm trying to decide - shoot or hold out for bigger? - deer is getting close to thicker stuff, I stand up in the stand, aim for the off shoulder... BOOM! Deer jumps at the shot and takes off, I can't see much... then I hear splashing, he's trying to cross the creek. Splashing continues, and I can see the splashes (and not much else) and he's still splashing... so I tossed off another shot, not wanting to go into the thick stuff in the dark to find him. Splashing stops... I got down from tree, made note of direction, walked straight there, got to creek, walked along it a bit, and... there he is, in two feet of water. Thankfully that 2nd shot missed, else had it hit I'd have no doubt ruined a ham or gut shot him. Shot entered back of right ribs, exited left shoulder, just like it should. Would have been better a couple inches further forward, as I caught a little stomach. First deer of rifle season (pointer two weeks ago was w/muzzleloader).

Nowhere near as big (or hard to drag) as the 8-pointer, but he'll be tasty... in the freezer now.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2010, 07:40:11 AM »
Though NPR is widely seen as publicly funded, the majority of its funding does not come (even indirectly) from taxpayers. NPR doesn't receive direct federal funding for operations - the largest chunk of its money comes from program fees and station dues, as NPR's finances page lays out.

This is where NPR gets its funding

http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html

NPR does end up with some federal funding in an indirect sense, though it only makes up between one and three percent of the group's budget on a yearly basis, according to NPR CEO Vivian Schiller, who discussed the matter in an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Here's how Schiller breaks it down: The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which covers both radio and television, gets $90 million per year in federal funding that goes to member public radio stations, not NPR itself. (This would be your local NPR affiliate.) She said any money NPR gets from the CPB comes via grants it has to apply for, and those grants only make up a tiny percentage of the overall NPR budget.

If you add up the two indirect sources of federal money - grants through CPB and member station dues - taxpayer dollars still appear to add up to less than ten percent of its budget.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2010, 08:04:37 AM »
That's still way to much.
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« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2010, 08:06:31 AM »
As a matter of fact most programing is from sources that are also federal funded . If NPR was gone maybe the other would dry up also. What we have is one drain feeding another drain .
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2010, 08:24:58 AM »
In a free country govt. should not fund anything it regulates other than military.

When a congressional panel asked Murdoch if he was hiding money in tax havens, including communist Cuba, he responded that "we might have in the past, I'm not denying that." The Washington Post reported in 1997 that "through the deft use of international accounting loopholes and offshore tax havens, Murdoch has paid corporate income taxes at one-fifth the rate of his chief U.S. rivals throughout the 1990s, according to corporate documents and company officials." His company "reduces its annual tax bill by channeling profits through dozens of subsidiaries in low-tax or no-tax places such as the Cayman Islands and Bermuda. The overseas profits from movies made by 20th Century Fox, for instance, flow into a News Corp.-controlled company in the Caymans, where they are not taxed."



Cuba Tax shelter surprises me none the least Remember Murdoch helped employ North Korean Programmers in North Korea to develop gaming software. Programmers from North Korea’s General Federation of Science and Technology developed a 2007 mobile-phone bowling game based on the 1998 film, as well as “Men in Black: Alien Assault,” according to two executives at Nosotek Joint Venture Company, which markets software from North Korea for foreign clients. Both games were published by a unit of News Corp., the New York-based media company.

Better trained programmers may also bolster the regime’s cyberwarfare capabilities, said Kim Heung Kwang, who taught computer science at universities in the north for 19 years before defecting to South Korea in 2004.

For good 'ole Rupert .. it's anything for a buck.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2010, 10:42:48 AM »
You are repeating the Union propaganda.  Companies are forced to take advantage of any and all loop holes in order to make a profit.  Why if these loop holes are so bad hasn't Obama and his fleet of left wingers just close them?  You can spin all of your little stories and name drop until you are blue
in the face.   As I said Clinton, Carter, Obama and all of your other left wingers could have closed all the loop holes they have not, why?  Why is China moving ahead and takeing control of the world economy?  They are not tied by attacks on their own economy.  While the left spends billons on wars they said they would end and Gay Rights and Global Warming China is taking over the world economy.  The left wants to see everyone taxed to bring them under federal control. As more and more companies are broke or forced to move off shore the American citizen has less.  I have never had some one making $40,000 dollars a year offer me a job. Take away profits and that is all that is left.

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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2010, 11:06:02 AM »
you are correct we are our own worst enemy !
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« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:02 AM »
If that is so about unions then why do they always support the guys running on more govt, bigger govt ? And the biggie question why is there sooooo o much corruption at the top in unions where the leaders bleed off funds then leave ?
 Did I miss something but wasn't the GM bail out pay back for union support ?  ???
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2010, 02:02:09 PM »
Is there actually anyone on this site that would condone and support Murdoch sharing technology , educating their programmers and supporting N. Korean economy by purchasing their products in any way shape or form?

This is a National Security Risk, Not just for U.S. , but for the world.  
I cannot believe anyone on this board would take the side of support for Murdoch.
Just Anti-American Period.- Nuff said.  
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »
Are some of you guys just plain old dumb? If the ABC edible bean corporation pays a million dollars a year in taxes they are going to pass that million dollars on to the consumer. DUHHH! It's just that simple. It is as stupid as when the feds fine a corporation, they pass on the fine to the consumer. Put em in jail, why punish thier customers.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2010, 07:23:15 PM »
TM7 you must eat this Union propaganda 3 meals a day.  The Unions want their members to keep their earnings?  Wow, that is something new.  Jimmy Hoffa was the king of Union fund raiders back in the 1950s they stole pention funds for their own pleasures.  The Unions have for ever been tied to the Mafia and other fund raiders.  Obama kicked into the Union funds with the so called stimuls money.  Now once again they don't know where the money has gone, except some has shown up in Italy.  What a shock.  If the U.S. Compaines are so bad why don't you guys organize the crime syndicates?  You have no problem letting them steal your pension funds.

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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #83 on: October 29, 2010, 01:06:20 AM »
TM7 you must eat this Union propaganda 3 meals a day.
I'm seeing a theme... propaganda. But what propaganda is this?

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Jimmy Hoffa was the king of Union fund raiders back in the 1950s they stole pention funds for their own pleasures.
I'd like some pention funds for my pleasure - gimme that pention! I've got a penchant for pentions!

another plant.
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« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2010, 03:10:21 AM »
If that is so about unions then why do they always support the guys running on more govt, bigger govt ? And the biggie question why is there sooooo o much corruption at the top in unions where the leaders bleed off funds then leave ?
 Did I miss something but wasn't the GM bail out pay back for union support ?  ???

I can't say that you comments are exactly accurate about unions, but only that certain opinion outlets have endlessly put forth such theories about unions.  The GM bailout was ordered by Wall St...GM is defense sensitive as well and loosing it is a matter of national pride...as GM goes so goes the nation.

 And it is not certain that unions always support bigger government if the sampling of the union guys here is any indication. Governmnet unions might however.


There is no defense for corruption and criminal activity. But unfortunately, the US of A is ranked about the most 'corrupt' nation on the planet these days....and if I could find the link expressing this study you would find it interesting reading.....part of the failing nation scenario.



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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2010, 03:23:25 AM »
TM7 you must eat this Union propaganda 3 meals a day.
I'm seeing a theme... propaganda. But what propaganda is this?

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Jimmy Hoffa was the king of Union fund raiders back in the 1950s they stole pention funds for their own pleasures.
I'd like some pention funds for my pleasure - gimme that pention! I've got a penchant for pentions!

another plant.

We have Old Yellow, old TM and old Wreck as a group here whon none one takes seriously. These three are trolls who no one puts any faith n the worrd of. But don't it just crack you up that old yellow calls you a "plant" when ya question his lies and BS. A plant  :D ;D :D ;D

OH how dumb can I be, old yellow is ahring his catch phrase fo his upcoming comedy routine. " You might be a plant" I dunno old yellow, now it sound like you are almost plagerising Jeff Foxworthy. OH well I guess I should expect this from you, you are just a feller who spews the silly crap he hears on NPR as fact.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2010, 03:43:13 AM »
I'm gonna feed a troll:
We have Old Yellow, old TM and old Wreck as a group here whon none one takes seriously. These three are trolls who no one puts any faith n the worrd of.

Me, a troll? Hmm... I'm absolutely willing to engage and talk. That's not a troll.

Sounds to me like BillyBoy's definition of a troll, is... someone who doesn't line up just so with his own narrow brand of ignorance, intolerance, and just plain nastiness... which is a downside to the web, it brings out those types.
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« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2010, 03:55:25 AM »
Well for my money, I doubt anyone would need to promote "Islamophobia"; al Qaida has done the job oh so well.
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Re: Juan Williams fired for speaking the truth.
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2010, 06:05:09 AM »
good story Yellowtail3 and good shooting.  Yellowtail3= 1, whitetail=0 ;D Enjoy the Venison = priceless  8)
             
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