RIA 1911 9mm

[olydraft]

Anyone have the new RIA 1911 9mm. If so how does it shoot and how do you like it?? I just ordered the 9mm tactical  from SARCO Thursday. I should have it by Tuesday at the latest. If it shoots as sweet as the 1911 .45 I have I will be like a pig in slop!!!

[williamlayton]

There are still a lot of old Colts in 9mm around.
Better choice-----me think.
A softer shooting and more powerful round is the .38 super.
Blessings

[1911crazy]

I think you'll be ok with the RIA in 9mm.  I been wanting a full size 1911 pistol in 9mm for quite sometime.  I picked up a star B in 9mm luger which is a copy of a 40's colt 1911. But it still seemed smaller in size and weight.  My new llama in 9mm largo is about the same size and weight as a 1911, its big and heavy.  I think the RIA will be along the same thing as the llama in size.

[mrussel]

I think you'll be ok with the RIA in 9mm.  I been wanting a full size 1911 pistol in 9mm for quite sometime.  I picked up a star B in 9mm luger which is a copy of a 40's colt 1911. But it still seemed smaller in size and weight.  My new llama in 9mm largo is about the same size and weight as a 1911, its big and heavy.  I think the RIA will be along the same thing as the llama in size.

I understand the RIA is going to be just like the 45acp version,except I would guess slightly heavier becuase the barrel will be the same diameter with a smaller bore. Most people love their RIAs. Ive heard of a few people that have problems but they stand behind them and will make it right. Personally,I would go for the 38 super,unless you really really want a 9mm. 38 super can shoot 38ACP which is pretty much the same as 9mm Luger or 38 super which is very similar to 357 SIG. Ammo is not as available as it is for the 9mm Luger,but honestly,if you shoot it a lot,you should start reloading. If you dont shoot it much,ammo cost isnt that big of a deal anyway,but you can get all the stuff you need to start reloading for around 200 dollars. Thats only 10 boxes of ammo. And whats more,its a lot of fun when you start getting into it.

[olydraft]

I got the RIA 9mm, it`s Identical to the standard .45 To convert it all you have to do is swap the top and the ejector and your back to .45... I won`t get to fire it for a few days so I have to wait for the fun...

[1911crazy]

www.aimsurplus.com/  Has affordable ammo.  The 9mm luger & 9mm makarov in the russian brown bear brand are affordable right now there around $8 to $10 a box of 50rds.  I do reload but i find sometimes if i can buy ammo thats affordable why reload.  Last winter we ran 3k of 45acp and a lot of 308win too. Using the LEE Pro 1000 setup for 45acp does go fast.  But its also nice to shoot and walk away and not picking up the spent brass too. At least for a few calibers.

For a 9mm round power wise the 38super seems to be the one if your going to CCW carry. I know that Mikey here likes it.

[Mikey]

I will admit to a fondness for the 38 Super and when chambered in a 1911 allows conversion to the 9x23 Winchester as well as the 9x19 and let's not forget that there are lots of aftermarket slide set-ups available to convert it to 10/40 or 45.  One nice aspect to 1911 in 9mm is the easier recoil.  One can have way too much fun with a 1911 gun ...................

[rawhidekid]

I like my EAA in 38 Super, but got to missing the 1911 feel.  Ran into a RIA 38 Super and the dang thing will be home Wednesday of next week.  I'll let you'all know how it works out.

[rawhidekid]

Got it home and the back of the slide by the hammer looks like it was used to drive nails.  cleaned it and oiled it and went to the range.  The mil spec sights were rough on my bi-focals but the gun is a shooter and fed my reloads without a miss.  Sorry no pictures this time.  The gun is an acurate copy of the old GI issue (although it has a flat mainspring housing).  It came with a Meg-gar 9 round mag that feeds reliably.  I am happy with this purchase and the barrel seems to have a fully supported chamber if I want to shoot the hotter rounds.

[mrussel]

Got it home and the back of the slide by the hammer looks like it was used to drive nails.  cleaned it and oiled it and went to the range.  The mil spec sights were rough on my bi-focals but the gun is a shooter and fed my reloads without a miss.  Sorry no pictures this time.  The gun is an acurate copy of the old GI issue (although it has a flat mainspring housing).  It came with a Meg-gar 9 round mag that feeds reliably.  I am happy with this purchase and the barrel seems to have a fully supported chamber if I want to shoot the hotter rounds.

Sorry,I misphrased that. What I meant to say is considering you can shoot 38 super +P in guns built on that frame,which are chambered properly for 38 super,I would expect any SAMMI spec 9mm to be just fine in one that was properly chambered for 9mm.

[rawhidekid]

If the nine would be held by the extractor it might fire, but I don't think it would be as accurate as it is ment to headspace on the case mouth witch would be inside the chamber, like a 38Spl in a 357Mag.  And just as likely to foul the chamber with extendid use.  I probubly shouldn't have mentioned the 38Super on the 9mm thred exept both being Rock Island.  What you suggest would be about what you have shooting a 9mm in a Star I once had that the mag would have fed 38 Supers.  But it would have required a different barrel to chamber the 38 Super since it was a 9mm.

[Mikey]

rawhide - do not shoot the 9x19 in a 38 Super chamber as you will most likely bust the extractor - just get yourself another barrel, one chambered in the 9x19 as it will take you less than 60 seconds to change it out.

The 38 Spl and 357 Mag headspace on the rim, not the case mouth.  The 9mm always headspaced on the case mouth, as does the 45 auto.  The 38 Supers from Colt originally headspaced on that tiny little rim the 38 Super wears and that was the cause of most of the 38 Super accuracy problems earlier on.  When barrel makers like Bar-Sto started headspacing 38 Supers on the case mouth the the accuracy improved dramatically and gave the 38 Super another life.  I have a older Colt 38 Super that started life as a Army 38 Spl wadcutter pistol but I purchased a Bar-Sto barrel for it in 38 Super and I have a ball donging the gongs at 50 and 100m whenever I finally get my butt in gear and take it out.  I'm still thinking of getting a dedicated Caspian 38 Super slide for my Springer 'cause I found this nice long 6" 38 Super barrel and have yet to try it out.  Someday......

[rawhidekid]

Don't worry Mikey, I wouldnever do it.  My comment was in responce to what mrussel said.  This is my second 38 Super I dearly love this caliber.

[mrussel]

If the nine would be held by the extractor it might fire, but I don't think it would be as accurate as it is ment to headspace on the case mouth witch would be inside the chamber, like a 38Spl in a 357Mag.  And just as likely to foul the chamber with extendid use.  I probubly shouldn't have mentioned the 38Super on the 9mm thred exept both being Rock Island.  What you suggest would be about what you have shooting a 9mm in a Star I once had that the mag would have fed 38 Supers.  But it would have required a different barrel to chamber the 38 Super since it was a 9mm.

Im glad someone chimed in here. I didnt mean that you should or could shoot 9mm in a 38 super. What I was trying to say,but was not clear about was that since guns built on that frame can shoot 38 super +P,if you have one that's chambered for 9mm,you should be able to shoot any 9mm that meets the 9mm specs including +P stuff.

[rawhidekid]

You are correct, if you had a 38 Super and bought a extra barrel from say Barsto; you could fire any sami safe round.  But for a reloader like myself, 38 Super is my favorite cartridge by far .

[Mikey]

Rawhide:  actually, I think I would get a 9x23 bbl and use that as a replacement for the 38 Super bbl, just for more positive functioning as sometimes the 38 Supers can be a bit finicky.  But, I believe the 38 Super cases will cycle and chamber in the 9x23 bbl, and then ya can always get a 9x19 bbl; Bar-Sto is very good, I once had a High Power with a Bar-Sto bbl and she was tres accurate..  Just a thought. 

[1911crazy]

So Mikey what your saying is if i get a 9x23 win barrel for my 1911 i can shoot both the 9x23 win and the 38 super?  Just checking isn't the 9x23 win 23mm long while the 38 super is 22.5mm + or - long.  If were relying on the mouth of the case for headspace is this .5mm difference a problem or are we ok with it?  You guys are the guru's on this one i'm new and along for the ride.  One more thing i think about with being a reloader the case length is very important if we reload if its chambering on the case mouth right?

Now i just purchased some 38 super mags to try in my 9mm largo which is 23mm long.  The 9mm largo doesn't fit in the 38 super mags.  I figured since my llama pistol modelo extra in 9mm largo accepts the 45acp mags(1911 clone) i figured the 38 super mags would be more affordable than the 9mm largo mags.  Since i'm getting a 38 super soon its no loss if it doesn't accept my 9mm largo rounds.  This is where the .5 mm comes in there is a .5mm difference in the 38 super mags i have for some reason. Maybe its the cheap mags i purchased.

Olydraft;  Let us know how your new RIA 1911a1 in 9mm luger works out.  I'm interested in the RIA 1911's too.