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I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« on: October 31, 2010, 11:37:25 AM »
For the governors race here in Ohio they have endorsed the democrat incumbant Ted Strickland. They give him an "A" rating and his running mate has an "F" rating.

His opponent John Kasich has a "B" rating and his running mate has an "A" rating.

If we average the candidates and thier running mates grades the Strickland ticket gets a "C" overall while the Kasich ticket gets a "B" overall.

So would the NRA care to explain to me why I should vote for the endorsed candidate with the lower overall grade?
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 11:44:25 AM »
Its all based on MONEY. Who got the most can buy just about anything, even votes. >:(

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 02:11:15 PM »
Thats wy the NRA dosn't get my $$ anymore! I'm voting for Kasich.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2010, 07:24:36 PM »
single issue organization. 2nd amendment. doen't mean you have to vote for the A rating. Life member and vote for the whole value of candidate not just gun rights.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 07:28:45 PM »
The NRA may be single issue, but I have seen them make too many compromises.  They do not get my money; my money goes directly to candidates who REFUSE to compromise on 2A issues.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 08:23:39 PM »
In NY, the NRA endorses Paladino for Gov. He is just as bad or worse than Cuomo. I can't believe that this is the best that both parties have to offer. In my opinion, the NRA, Paladino, and Cuomo all stink.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 01:20:51 AM »
I think local NRA members make recommendations about who they like and the NRA usually accepts their input. In Wyo there is the name of a guy we should contact to get local information on the mailing label of the Rifleman magazine.

Can't see as I am real thrilled about their choice for Gov. here either. They endorse a mainline Republican whereas there is a real fireball guy running as a write in who is tempting me. Not a lot of chance that the write in will win, but I'd like the Republicans to get a message because of some real poor candidates that they have run in the past.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 02:23:18 AM »
that is the nra for you; the sleazy scumbags.   i give you credit for seeing them for what they are.   too many just blindly follow as they are being lead to slaughter. 

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 06:23:45 AM »
If I didnt have to carry NRA membership to belong to the range I go to I would not send another dime to them. When they were flirting with Harry Reid it was almost more than I could bear.

Anymore I feel like they are the NAACP of guns. Trying to whip up controversy so they can collect more money from their members.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 08:08:58 AM »
that is exactly their game.   

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 02:07:30 PM »
I think local NRA members make recommendations about who they like and the NRA usually accepts their input. In Wyo there is the name of a guy we should contact to get local information on the mailing label of the Rifleman magazine.

Can't see as I am real thrilled about their choice for Gov. here either. They endorse a mainline Republican whereas there is a real fireball guy running as a write in who is tempting me. Not a lot of chance that the write in will win, but I'd like the Republicans to get a message because of some real poor candidates that they have run in the past.



Hey Bilmac............Only one way for the write in to win. More people that believe as you do, vote for him.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 02:12:00 PM »
In NY, the NRA endorses Paladino for Gov. He is just as bad or worse than Cuomo. I can't believe that this is the best that both parties have to offer. In my opinion, the NRA, Paladino, and Cuomo all stink.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 02:20:45 PM »
I'm POed at the NRA, too, for their senate from Louisiana pick. Sleezeball Viter R got an "A" and so did Charlie Melancon D.  The NRA picked the sleezeball.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2010, 09:26:34 AM »
I'm POed at the NRA, too, for their senate from Louisiana pick. Sleezeball Viter R got an "A" and so did Charlie Melancon D.  The NRA picked the sleezeball.


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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2010, 10:11:30 AM »
If anyone would take the time to read the article along with the charts in the American Rifleman the grades are first from voting record . Second from a questionare .Also an someone in office is noted. Some don't return the questionaire. If a DEM votes to support gun ownership he gets a good grade.
 Here we have the NRA reporting how a canidate stacks up with regard to gun ownership. And they catch hell because they report the findings . They don't tell us any other facts THATS UP TO US  TO FIND OUT ABOUT . The NRA is not about health care or govt. hand out ( other than CMP ) they are a one issue deal.  ::)
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2010, 11:09:16 AM »
look up at the Rossi ad, The man has refused to make or have his people make ANY comment as to being pro  or anti 2nd amendment yey he has the nra endorsement and this ad bought and paid for with outsider (small print on bottom) money.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2010, 04:28:34 PM »
single issue organization. 2nd amendment. doen't mean you have to vote for the A rating. Life member and vote for the whole value of candidate not just gun rights.

Any politician that will stomp on one of our rights is a liar and a thief. And that's the whole value of the candidate.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 03:07:25 AM »
single issue organization. 2nd amendment. doen't mean you have to vote for the A rating. Life member and vote for the whole value of candidate not just gun rights.

Any politician that will stomp on one of our rights is a liar and a thief. And that's the whole value of the candidate.

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That said if both canidates have A ratings then the voter needs to look deeper    
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 05:04:23 AM »
I don't get it either. But I figure they got Joe Manchin elected senator of W. Virginia. You know, the guy that shot the cap and tax bill at 20yds with a high powered rifle on the commercial. One less senator away from controling the Senate.............Thanks NRA!

They refused to endorse Angle and she lost to Reid. One more senator away from controling the Senate. AND a couple more years of Dirty Harry's dirty tricks!!...............Thanks NRA!

Maybe they want us to get to the point where we have to use our guns to survive in this counrty. I'm sure I don't know!
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2010, 07:42:51 AM »
Too many seem to be operating under the false assumption the NRA is a friend of gun owners. Personally I don't buy that theory. I don't believe they are a friend of gun owners or of Americans in general.


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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 07:56:57 AM »
The Liberal left and their plants attacking the NRA.  Most of these post are taken directly from Left Wing Labor Union news releases.  Sorry guys their are over 4 million of us who are being dupped by the oldest most powerful gun rights organization in the world.  This has been around for over 150 years.  The Socialist movement or Workers of the World was only getting started.  Look back which has done more world wide for Gun Rights.  The Workers of the World or the NRA?  Even you followers of the Labor Sponge should be able to answer that one.

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 08:58:09 AM »
I don't get it either. But I figure they got Joe Manchin elected senator of W. Virginia. You know, the guy that shot the cap and tax bill at 20yds with a high powered rifle on the commercial. One less senator away from controling the Senate.............Thanks NRA!

They refused to endorse Angle and she lost to Reid. One more senator away from controling the Senate. AND a couple more years of Dirty Harry's dirty tricks!!...............Thanks NRA!

Maybe they want us to get to the point where we have to use our guns to survive in this counrty. I'm sure I don't know!
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 09:39:21 AM »
It just seemed pretty ignorant to me to endorse Ted Strickland. So what if he has an A rating? His running mate had an F rating meaning we would only be a heart beat away from having a governor with and F rating. Real smart NRA! I think Lee Fisher the former Lt governor has an F rating too but Ted is good for gun owners!

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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 09:52:09 AM »
There ya go you did the extra checking like all of us should do. They didn't tell anyone to vote for anyone .

It seems some think if you are a member of the NRA you must be in lock step with them , It just ain't so. They offer members imformation . We need to decide what to do with it. Also they can be changed if enough people join and vote .
Another thing are some NRA leaders making good money sure they are , is that bad ? If they weren't they would work else where and not trying to keep guns in our hands . There is no free lunch !
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 12:26:24 PM »
I'm not going to read every post above, so this may well be a repeat. My take for what it is worth.

Lets assume for a moment the NRA told all dems to pound sand in 1995, we don't need nor do we want your support. Fast forward to 2008, about how much support for the 2A do you think those dems would have for us? How much respect would you have for the NRA knowing they intentionally pi88ed off the majority power in BOTH the Senate and the House of representitives? Oh, the president is a Dem too.

The sole mission of the NRA as it relates to lobbying needs to be 2A support, period. Were John Moses Browning a Democrat should the NRA denounce him as being below their contempt? Don't believe for a minute that every union member in this country is a bunny hugger, but a gret percentage of them vote Democrat. I don't see anything wrong with pro gun Democrats beating the bunny huggers in the primaries, do you? How about the D's and R's argueing over making CCW laws LESS restrictive?

Plenty of folks are argueing the cause for the unborn, lowering taxes, spotted owl habitat, free condoms for aboriginal hampsters in European hampster mills you name it. NRA isn't perfect neither is my wife but I haven't found a reason to give up on her, she is doing the best with what she has to work with, both in and out of our home.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 02:19:00 PM »
Times are bad and the NRA is like the unions when your laid off your dues dosn't go down to help people out. There fat cats are out in New Mexico at there private hunting grounds.
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2010, 04:33:29 PM »
The Liberal left and their plants attacking the NRA.  Most of these post are taken directly from Left Wing Labor Union news releases.  Sorry guys their are over 4 million of us who are being dupped by the oldest most powerful gun rights organization in the world.  This has been around for over 150 years.  The Socialist movement or Workers of the World was only getting started.  Look back which has done more world wide for Gun Rights.  The Workers of the World or the NRA?  Even you followers of the Labor Sponge should be able to answer that one.

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Could it be that BLIND followers like yourself could be missing the big pictures?

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2010, 09:37:55 PM »

It is amazing that you fellows use your post to destroy the NRA.  There are 4 million of us who are blind followers of the NRA.  I have seen the NRA detractors come and go for over 50 years.  You  can trace your roots back to the gun crabbers of the 1960s. I will trace my roots back to the gun rights movements of the 1950s.  I do not understand this desire to tear down the NRA, unless it is tied to a greater force.  It seems there is a strong Union leaning in your comments.  The anti NRA post which are regular fair on this forum are for the most part stupid.  How about the NRA Officers are off hunting in New Mexico?  This slam at the Whittington Center at Raton, NM is  ignorant at best. 

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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2010, 11:15:16 PM »
RR;

After reading your posts about the NRA and it's critics, you have made it easier for me to understand the NRA and it's members and the reason why the NRA does the things that it does. Very informative! Thank you for educating and enlightening me. Giving me an inside look at the NRA, so to speak. I think I understand now. Thank you!    :)
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Re: I dont get the NRA's reasoning
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2010, 06:43:47 AM »

It is amazing that you fellows use your post to destroy the NRA.  There are 4 million of us who are blind followers of the NRA.  I have seen the NRA detractors come and go for over 50 years.  You  can trace your roots back to the gun crabbers of the 1960s. I will trace my roots back to the gun rights movements of the 1950s.  I do not understand this desire to tear down the NRA, unless it is tied to a greater force.  It seems there is a strong Union leaning in your comments.  The anti NRA post which are regular fair on this forum are for the most part stupid.  How about the NRA Officers are off hunting in New Mexico?  This slam at the Whittington Center at Raton, NM is  ignorant at best. 

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Most of the so called detractors you mention are members or former members of the NRA. We are part of the four million, or have been. I am anti-union, a registered Republican and member of the JBS. I don't really think I could be described as a Liberal. I like to think of myself as a Libertarian leaning Republican.Some of us actually think for ourselves.

I have several friends that are life members of the NRA, and are disgusted with the Leadership and direction the NRA is going.I just wish more NRA members would pull their heads out, and see the light.

I'm sure Wayne L, and Cris Cox are celebrating today the re-election of Harry Reid.Are you celebrating with them? This is the direction they have taken, and it's not one gun owners should be happy with.
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