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The movement from the South American countries in to the U.S. is different.  The Irish, Germans,Poles what ever never attacked American troops and killed Americans living peacefully near our borders. They never  trafficed in the tons of drugs that are killing off the next generation of our young.  To claim that it is unAmerican to deny these people the right of invaision against a peaceful country on their northern border is stupid.  Yes, in every case imagrants had to adapt.  In most cases they have.  Yes, we accept and and extend our love for other cultures. Thats why we have St. Pattys Day in a largly Protestant nation. You can belong to any church you plaese and preach in any languange you like. But when you march on our streets with militant flags from Socialist and communist countries and demand your rights given by the American Constituion.  Well, you are going to lose our attention to your rights.

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 How many Americans have Germans killed?

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 Ultimately as everyone has sex with everyone else, babies will all look the same, and read the same. Look for it in another generation.

That is what you liberal ,progressives want. A half breed population much dumber than we now are and totally dependant on government for their existence.
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Ultimately as everyone has sex with everyone else, babies will all look the same, and read the same. Look for it in another generation.
That is what you liberal ,progressives want. A half breed population much dumber than we now are and totally dependant on government for their existence.
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Many things are a bit different today . First back in the day there were laws that kept these people in certian areas . They were not protected by the govt. and if and when they got out of line they paid a price. Right or wrong that's the way it was , they earned their place in America. Today they come across un checked and work . The govt. in many cases knows who produce the false documents but do little to stop them .
 I don't think many Americans have a problem with legal immigrants its the illegals and the govt. not stopping it. Most don't blame the illegals but do the govt.
Now with the drugs and killings on the border not many are left that find favor in allowing it anymore. I see little humor in it myself .
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My mom's parents were somewhat short on English. But all the kids grew up fluent in it, and short on the language of the old country.  In the parish I was in, the Eritreans, Arabs, Greeks, Russians, Romanians, and Serbs all were the same - the older generation that first came over was somewhat lacking in English, but still made the effort to use is as best they could, and all the kids were thoroughly American.  And they all came in legally and most became citizens not by government fiat, but took the time and effort to take the classes, take the tests, take the oath.  Yes, it is fine to keep and honor the traditions of the old country, and great to have the various ethnic festivals, they all enrich us.  

But that isn't what is happening now with the people who are here illegally.  And that is the set of people that those evil, racist conservatives are complaining about, not  those who are here legally.  

Of course, those of the leftist, nanny state persuasion, as we see with the original post on this thread, twist everything out of shape.  There is no difference to them between someone who came here legally and someone who flouted our law to come in.  No difference between people doing their best to assimilate to our culture, as varied as it is, and those who demand that the majority cater to them, who make no attempt to assimilate to our culture.  
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RANGE RIDER. Good post Sir, I agree. The pantywetters can't seem to tell the difference.
yellow. I saw nothing funny about Beerbellys post, he's probably right. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Didn't King David have a child with an African woman hundreds of years ago if not thousands ? I don't think one generation will turn us all into one "breed"  ;)
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How many Americans have Germans killed?

Not sure but with just WW-1 and WW-2 it would be a large number !  :o
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My wife is second generation Italian.  Her grandparents came over from Italy.  They insisted their kids learn English.  They did want to be Americans.  Yes they brought a lot of their culture with them, but they did want their kids to learn English and become Americans.  My wife doesn't know any Italian.  Her father, first generation American, didn't know much either.  That is where I get they wanted to assimilate.  Her grandparents had 12 children and they were all born here.  And I disagree, the shear numbers of Hispanics, right here in Alabama tell the story.  I don't have any bone to pick with them.  I just question, are they going to assimilate?  I know the Cuban Americans in Florida seemed to have assimilated ok.  But with 10-12 million illegals, not counting about 20,000,000 legal Hispanics.  Just the shear numbers will take time to assimilate.  Their legal system is structured to the letter of the law, and not based on the English common law.

The correct adjective here should be sheer,,,try that, and your IQ may go to 143  ;)
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Many things are a bit different today . First back in the day there were laws that kept these people in certian areas . They were not protected by the govt. and if and when they got out of line they paid a price. Right or wrong that's the way it was , they earned their place in America. Today they come across un checked and work . The govt. in many cases knows who produce the false documents but do little to stop them .
 I don't think many Americans have a problem with legal immigrants its the illegals and the govt. not stopping it. Most don't blame the illegals but do the govt.
Now with the drugs and killings on the border not many are left that find favor in allowing it anymore. I see little humor in it myself .
My family includes Irish that came here during the potato famine. I think they were legal, I have never heard that they were not, and they came through Ellis Island. Anyway, they were hated. Because they were Irish. Very hard for them to get work except as cops or in the military. So that is what they did. And it continues generations later.

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I have seen it written that if it were not for Irish on both the north and South sides there would not have been enough men to fight a battle.
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I have seen it written that if it were not for Irish on both the north and South sides there would not have been enough men to fight a battle.
I would believe that, alot of Irish were to be no more when they charged a line of cannon charged with double grape. Along with alot of other folks as well. How soon would the rail lines west have been laid without Irish labor?

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................. The language that lost was german. Would it have made any difference, had the vote gone the other way?



I believe very much so, at this stage it doesn't matter anymore but I do believe a country should have an official language in general.
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Hey, You can't pick your parents.  People want a better life for themselves.  This country was built by people who were strong enough and industrious enough to leave their homeland for a better life for themselves and their family.

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We are a nation of laws. When you come here breaking the law....... you need to go home no excuses. If I break the law I pay the price. This is not the case with the metzo law breakers they get a free pass. Why the double standard? The law breakers need to be deported no more excuses. The law is the law.
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If someone were to work for me in this country, they would have no choice but to speak the same as me so I can tell them what to do, and they can tell me what I need to know. Period. No sense in draging me down or slowing me down, I need to get things done and would have no use for someone I could not communicate with. Further more, since they work for me, it's up to them to learn how to talk to me, not the other way around. If they want to have a job that is.  That's as simple as it gets. So I guess I feel the same way powderman does.  He posted this...

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If I owned a business and needed to hire a person to represent me and work with the public daily they WOULD speak English, period.  POWDERMAN.


That is the bottom line...that is the ONLY thing that matters...anything else is a waste of my time.
Now out of the business place..I could care less if I can communicate with someone, I can just shrug and walk away.

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JIMSTER. Good post Sir. I  don't care if it's a burger joint I go to when I eat out, they better speak English. We quit going to a golden corral restaurant for over a year. Every time I got a piece of steak No matter what I asked for  I always ended up getting whatever the mexican of the day dropped on my plate, they now have Americans there. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Ultimately as everyone has sex with everyone else, babies will all look the same, and read the same. Look for it in another generation.
That is what you liberal ,progressives want. A half breed population much dumber than we now are and totally dependant on government for their existence.
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