Can we not fight in other parts of the world ?

[SHOOTALL]

Many want to bring home all troops and not enter any conflict. I would like no war myself but is that possible ? The Muslims want to convert the world to there ways . The Christians do the same really maybe with different methods lately but still try to convert. Commies try to take over anywhere they get a chance . China is building for something just to name a few .
 Question is if we pull back will the other forces get stronger and at some point destory us ? Is it not better to meet the challenges as far from here as possible ?

[powderman]

Question is if we pull back will the other forces get stronger and at some point destory us ? Is it not better to meet the challenges as far from here as possible ?



YES, of course they'd get stronger. The godless ones have infected the entire world with their cancer. Left unchecked they will take over the world, one country at a time til, like parts of the human body, til the whole body dies, and their master satan wins. POWDERMAN. 

[wreckhog]

Many want to bring home all troops and not enter any conflict. I would like no war myself but is that possible ? The Muslims want to convert the world to there ways . The Christians do the same really maybe with different methods lately but still try to convert. Commies try to take over anywhere they get a chance . China is building for something just to name a few .
 Question is if we pull back will the other forces get stronger and at some point destory us ? Is it not better to meet the challenges as far from here as possible ?

Do you realize that no one is stopping you from going to other parts of the world to fight if you believe in it. Hemingway did it. That sword guy looking for OBL did it.

[BUGEYE]

we were attacked.  we should formally declare war on millitant muslims and quit worrying about collateral damage.  make the muslims realize that if they don't police their own ranks, they will be destroyed.
other than that, keep our noses out of other peoples business unless asked.

[SHOOTALL]

Many want to bring home all troops and not enter any conflict. I would like no war myself but is that possible ? The Muslims want to convert the world to there ways . The Christians do the same really maybe with different methods lately but still try to convert. Commies try to take over anywhere they get a chance . China is building for something just to name a few .
 Question is if we pull back will the other forces get stronger and at some point destory us ? Is it not better to meet the challenges as far from here as possible ?

Do you realize that no one is stopping you from going to other parts of the world to fight if you believe in it. Hemingway did it. That sword guy looking for OBL did it.

My point is we have to fight , the idea of not is almost impossible at this point . The others on the othersides will not give in no matter what. The use of other smaller countries to fight is little more than allowing the loser to save face and maybe not deploy nukes . If war comes to any of the larger ( nuke capable nations) then it will be a much bigger war if and when one feels they are losing .

[SHOOTALL]

Hog wash !
IMHO !

[Junior1942]

>The urge to fix the World is little more then a compulsion to rule the world. .TM7

That statement is 100% factual.

[yellowtail3]

I"d prefer we not get involved in wars that don't immediately threaten our survival. Those who want to see some action can get a video game or read Iron Coffins.

Three deer in the cooler... I'm going after another one tonight.

[powderman]

Find those evil forces, little more than control freak psychopaths, and eliminate them before they culture more hatred and paranoia.




tm. I can't believe it, you finally got something right. Thats where GWOI enters the picture. Congratulations. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

Find those evil forces, little more than control freak psychopaths, and eliminate them before they culture more hatred and paranoia.

Well, we wouldn't want them to do that, would we? Culturin' paranoia...

[gypsyman]

I remember reading years ago, in the 3,000+ years of recorded history, less than 300 years were there no major confilcts taking place. It would be nice if we could all get along,(thank Rodney King for that one!!), but I'm afraid it will never happen. Prepare for war, and pray for peace. gypsyman

[joeinwv]

We should not continue to engage in these prolonged police action conflicts. The US military is very good at killing people and breaking things - if that is not what needs done, pull them out.

I am not in favor of the President ordering these military actions. If we have a problem, Congress should declare a formal war. And not a public relations stunt "War on Terror / Drugs / Crime / Etc".

Our rules of engagement restrict the military's effectiveness, increase our costs and are not beneficial to the mental stability of our troops.

The big issue is that the muslims do not see that they are doing anything wrong or different than the way we and other western cultures have acted historically.
-they want to expand and convert others to their religion (See British Empire, the Crusades and Jesuit Missionaries)
- they are willing to use military force to meet their goals and exterminate other societies (see US western expansion vs American Indians)
- they will use guerilla warfare and unconventional tactics to fight a larger / more advanced enemy (see US Revolution)

[SHOOTALL]

Hog wash !
IMHO !

Hog wash..what!? So you think the normal state of the human mind is warfare, conflict, derision, evil...is that right?
If so how did the human species become so successful.  I will consent that conflict on small and individual basis is normal...how people grow and become wise. I will also consent that human beings like cultural unity,,not diversity. (Diversity=cultural failure) Conflict on global, dark, on a secretive basis fueled by religious rivalry is the domain of psychopaths.  
So hog wash what..??

(junior...that's a famous saying as you know... )


...TM7
.

Well when you consider most tech. advances came from war it would seem that war and conflict made man develope better tools to fight with and better ways to save lives . Even the space program had defense under tones look at the satalites for the military. Or that defense has first choice on the shuttle etc. Man made the spear , knife and bow long before the plow . Some say horse racing is the sport of kings in reality it is war that is the sport of kings , prime ministers and presidents .

[SHOOTALL]

joeinwv...presently and in recent history that I recall...I don't see muslim armies from any source invading or occupying any foreign countries anywhere. Kuwait maybe an exception but Ambassador Gilpsie told Sad'dam it was OK to take back the Kuwaiti province that once belonged to Iracq prior to Balfour. I see a bunch of hoopla and paranoia about moslem radicals, which I would take alot more seriously if we practiced immigration control by Law as intended. The Official 911 Conspiracy Theory is entirely suspect, bordering on ridiculous.


.TM7

[gypsyman]

TM, I see your starting to come around. Your admiting that the conspiracy theory about 911 is ridiculous. G.Bush didn't have anything to do with it, and it was the fault of muslim terrorists. Good for you. :)gypsyman

[jimster]

I don't think we should police anything, or go anywhere that is a not a direct threat to us. We have the means and tech. to turn any country to dust that points anything at us, no sense in having to go there. First thing we have to do is close our borders and clean ourselves out from all illegals no matter how long it takes to ship them all out, once you get that done secure all borders, there is a proper way to enter and a proper way to stay here.

We deserve our sovereignty, we should demand it, as Americans. That word should mean something.

You can't save the world, you can't make other people be like you want them to be, they must get there by themselves somehow.  If they are really a threat, turn them to dust and get it done with.  If you don't have the guts for that, let it go. That attitdue in itself would go a long way to anyone wanting to mess with us. You don't slap something that hits back 5 times harder

[wreckhog]

A lot of the rest of the world actively fights all the time. Viet Nam for instance is at war with someone 80-90 percent of the time. Fergit about Africa.  If you want to fight, believe me, they are ALWAYS up for it. Just show up.

[SHOOTALL]

jimster
 there would be alot of dusty places around the world