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« on: November 05, 2010, 08:31:01 AM »
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20101105/AS.Pakistan/

I was surprised to see this article, but the tragedy is that the victims were not Taliban, who claimed responsibility.   

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 08:44:32 AM »
Reminds ya of Democrats and liberals,(Juan Williams), they'll throw their own under the bus if it suits them. gypsyman
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 11:02:34 AM »
Nothing new about that, they've been killing each other for thousands of years. Shedding blood is the important thing. Whose doesn't matter, just as long as they kill, thats the important  thing with them. Attack the helpless, unarmed, the younger the better. At least they are cleansing their own gene pool a bit. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 01:25:30 PM »
May the Force be with them :D
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 01:56:42 PM »
I don't understand why people are suprised when a Muslim kills another Muslim? They are still in fact just people, and their faith does nothing to negate the jealousies, hatreds and biases that plague all other people, and in fact encourages those in some categories. Their terrorists are not solely focused on Americans or Israelis; they will attack whichever target is required to accomplish their goals, and rationalize the taking of another Muslims life accordingly.

A couple of folks I was really close to were killed by a Muslim suicide vest bomber from one tribe who was sent to kill off the entire local government of a "county", also Muslims of the same sect as the bomber. The targets were the Muslim Arabs in attendance, and 26 of them died immediately, more later, and more still were permanently injured. It was tribal politics, just like this article - the fact that there were americans present when he detonated was conincidental and AQI later claimed that it proved that God approved of their targeting other Muslims. A few years before that I had to fly into a place to identify a friend's body who had been shot at point blank range by a Muslim, in front of the guy's 2 yo child btw. His wife and 5 kids were afraid to leave the house, and so wouldn't id her husband's body - understandable. Why was he shot? Because he was a Christian? Nope. Because he was planting tomatoes in his yard, and when asked what those were, he joked that he was digging for gold. Another tribe heard the story, got jealous, and hired a mercenary to go kill him lest he find gold and the other tribe get rich. All very devout Muslims who hired the merc.

And before anyone gets on a tear and tries to prove to me the peacefulness of Islam, or negate what happened to my friends as some sort of aberrent behavior, you probably should know that I speak, read and write Arabic (several dialects), and have been working in or around the Arab Muslim world since 1991. I have lived as a civilian in the middle east and the horn of africa. I've made many friends, I've studied at Islamic schools original texts in original languages, and I've published on the complexities of tribalism and faith in the Arab Muslim world. Alot of what is being fed to Americans about Islam is crap ... pure and simple ... from both sides of the political spectrum. We should neither deify nor villify Islam.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 03:23:45 PM »
Their motto is :  " My friend is the enemy of my enemy" 
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 02:16:09 AM »
It just goes to show you that there is a little good in everyone.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 05:37:07 AM »
tm. Nobody forces the godless ones to slaughter each other, they do it willingly, and gladly. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 07:18:51 AM »
TNel...I guess if you can get Christians to kill each other, from bar fights right up to great organized world conflicts wiping out millions; then it probably isn't to hard to get a few moslem crazies to kill each other.  Fact is given their background mindset...not too hard to stealth in there and stir that 'goats head soup' pot...know what I mean? BTW...police in this country are shocked at brutality and what they see every day.

Question...if the Americans and israelis, all mercs...just left the area..packed up and left...after a few years of their jealousy-greed-rivalry murders...what would happen..?  Any projections and what difference would it make to us...??  Is it possible to access their resources peacefully other than by manifest war.? Where do the explosive materials come from in the first place..? very hard to get explosives in this country....for a reason.

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Our current presence and world attention has kept some of the more powerful tribal leaders in Iraq from conducting civil war, but only just. With the draw down in Iraq, so has the drawn down of media presence. However the killings have continued and increased as Iraqis are jockeying for dominance over each other, as their tribal culture has demanded for thousands of years. They were violent before Islam; Islam was a religion that was developed specifically for the Bedou culture from which all Arab cultures sprung. It just gives it divine meaning and purpose. To a man, every tribal leader I met with admitted that left to their own devices, Arabs will either kill each other off or enslave each other. History supports that concept. Is in the warp and woof of their culture, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. The only places you see an Arab nation approximating peace is when a monarch fully embraces capitalism, suppresses Islam, and uses the power of his autocratic reign to impose "western" ideals. If he lives a few generations, culture may shift slightly.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 07:55:14 AM »
TM7 were I to answer; Been that way for a very long time. Before, during and after british empirical rule. Before Russian invasion and after when tribal warfare continued with the taliban coming out on top. Now again that the taliban have been reduced. As always, insult, reproach, severe cases of coveting leads to murder/assassination. Going to have another go of tribal warfare when the USA leaves. Resources? the lithium? Large deposits in Bolivia as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcJVY8fXFcI&feature=PlayList&p=2921283CABBF2079&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=2

Explosives? probably bought along with RPG's,AK's, RPD's, etc.

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 08:23:38 AM »
HEH. What was it an Angel told Hagar about  her son ishmael and his descendents??? Uhhhhh, errrrr, hmmmmm, can't seem to remember. POWDERMAN. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 04:00:59 PM »
TNel...I guess if you can get Christians to kill each other, from bar fights right up to great organized world conflicts wiping out millions; then it probably isn't to hard to get a few moslem crazies to kill each other.  Fact is given their background mindset...not too hard to stealth in there and stir that 'goats head soup' pot...know what I mean? BTW...police in this country are shocked at brutality and what they see every day.

Question...if the Americans and israelis, all mercs...just left the area..packed up and left...after a few years of their jealousy-greed-rivalry murders...what would happen..?  Any projections and what difference would it make to us...??  Is it possible to access their resources peacefully other than by manifest war.? Where do the explosive materials come from in the first place..? very hard to get explosives in this country....for a reason.

..TM7



TM what you fail to say is that our community condemns these acts of violence while the muslims either celebrate it or complicite in thier silence, as this does not fit your antiAmerican and antisemetic agenda which you show in almost every post you make.

Also explosives, even very powerful ones are not that hard for one to either aquire or even manufacture, if one really wants such an item. Nitroglycerin, while very dangerous to manufacture is a very simple concoction.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 05:15:03 PM »
   
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by TeamNelson ~  To a man, every tribal leader I met with admitted that left to their own devices, Arabs will either kill each other off or enslave each other. History supports that concept.

Their motto is :  " My friend is the enemy of my enemy" 

Example :  In around the year 1015 BC.   Three Kindoms set out to destroy Judah and Jerusalem.   King Jehosaphat and all Judah were in such great fear for their lives.   A fast was called throughout all Judah and the king prayed to God Almighty before the people.   A prophesy came forth that the Lord said, "The battle is mine, you will not have to fight." 

As the three kingdoms gathered to set the battle in array, two of the kingdoms decided to do away with the 3rd kingdom.   After they killed all of that army they turned on one another and killed each other to the man.   Their mulititude was so large it took Judah 3 days to retrieve all the spoil left on the battle field.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 03:58:45 AM »
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Your thesis of moslem countries being the most murderous on the planet simply is not borne out by data...



tm. Yes, it is. Try a few American sources for news, you might be surprised. Trying to compare the mex drug wars to what has gone on in the godless nations for thousands of years is ridiculous. The only thing you got right is the atrocious practice of murdering babies. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 11:12:45 AM »
tm. I believe your meds are either wearing off or a bit too strong. your last post makes even less sense than normal. Almost like 2 or 3 people using your name and posting. The continious slaughter of babies around the  world is indeed a major thing, I never said it wasn't. Your people have been killing each other daily for thoudsands of years was my statement, and a true one. Thats the subject we are discussing. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 03:38:05 PM »
Old TM practicing up, sidestepping the issue and bringing up the bad side of America. (of which a great majority of us here on GBO detest) TM why do you constantly berate America and Jews, while pushing the agenda of the muslims? Please don't try to sidestep this question, as you are recognised here at GBO by your antiAmerica and antisemetic agenda.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 05:11:15 PM »
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Your thesis of moslem countries being the most murderous on the planet

Show me where I said that. You cannot, because I have not. No, what I have been saying all along is that Muslim cultures are not immune from the same murderous impulses that plague all humans.

In no way shape or form did I make any COMPARATIVE statements, but yet you continue to do so. Show me the intellectual courtesy to stay in the dialogue. I am speaking of Arab Muslim tribal cultures, and not holding a comparative cultures & religions dialogue. If that is your only defense is to engage in comparatives, then you are actually making your defense worse.

That said, are you saying the Muslims do not kill each other or anyone else?

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 06:14:00 AM »
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saying that it is their inherent nature and catalyzed by their religion to be murderous beyond anybody else....



A true statement. All the way back to ishmael. They are doing exactly  what the Angel told Hagar they would do. It's in their blood. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 06:27:23 AM »
TM7, you keep adding "beyond anyone else" or "more than anyone else" to my statements.

My actual thesis which you've read many times is that we should neither deify or villify Islam. As a religion, it does not curb a mans intrinsic sinful impulses. Again, standing on it's own merits, in it's own context, without comparatives.
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 06:32:19 AM »
Just because you have countries with the majority are supposed to be Christians, doesn't mean all people are.  Billy Graham had some statistics several years ago if I can find them.  He classified Christians as those who attended church at least twice a week.  Once a week were not counted.  He used the assumption that those who attended at least twice a week were actual dedicated Christians.  What he found out was that they lived an average of 8 years longer than the general population and had 85% better health record than the general population.  Less smokers, drinkers, drug users, they took care of their "temples".  Less stressful lives, less heart attacks, strokes, etc.  Now I believe most murders in America are not commited by "Christians" just because they live in a supposed to be "Christian" nation.  I would venture to say that only about 10% of Americans are true born again Christians.  Today only 10% of Americans actually attend church regularly.  Most are really agnostic.  

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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2010, 06:37:42 AM »
Well old TM if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it's a duck. When the muslim do it the blame is where it belongs on them. Being a realist I do not try to find a way to blame abortion, the drug war ect ect on them. Plain old putting the blame where it belongs. No need to go into a kindergarten booger man conspiracy to explain the obvious. No matter what the topic you try to forward your antisemetic hatred and blame it on the Jews.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2010, 07:19:25 AM »
Muzzie killing each other-WHO CARES! If they kill enough of each other off to the point that there is only one left standing they will no longer be able to reproduce and the world will be a better place for it.
There is no room in civilized society for their 6th century barbarism.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 09:41:39 AM »
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If they kill enough of each other off to the point that there is only one left standing they will no longer be able to reproduce and the world will be a better place for it.




YEP. Thats it in a nutshell. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 10:28:17 AM »
TM7,
The thread is on muslims killing each other, not on a comparison of violence rates between religions. As a mod I try to lead by example and stick with the thread. If you start a thread on comparison of violence rates, then my posts there will be different.

I am an Arabist, and an Islamicist, with a lot of experience in tribalism across the globe. I have not devoted the same amount of time to the Jewish/Talmudic perspective, as that was not my aim. I am more knowledgeable than some on the interaction between Judaism and Islam, specifically Israel and the ME, but claim no expertise. In fact most of the sources of my knowledge about Israel are biased, either from the Islamic view or the Christian view, so rather than disseminating bias, I refrain.

My posts aren't to make Islam look better because someone else does it too, or make Islam look worse because I failed to point out that someone else did it too. In fact, my posts in this thread were to illustrate that the violence in the Islamic world often has little to do with Islam, as in the case of Iraq, even when its against other Muslims. And furthermore, I think anyone who does any digging will discover that tribalism, which predates Islam by millenia, is actually the largest contributor to violence in Islam, to include honor killings, vendettas, and power struggles. What is often done in the name of Islam has little to do with Islam or one's faith in it. Its just that most Muslims are from tribal cultures. Islam has become a banner for many to justify things they might've lacked the courage to do otherwise, as it draws a large crowd, and we always feel cocky when we have our posse around us. (This may also be an entre into a comparative discussion, but I'm not going there.)


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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 12:19:32 PM »
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TM7,
The thread is on muslims killing each other, not on a comparison of violence rates between religions.




TN. Thank you Sir. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 02:47:20 PM »
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by TeamNelson:   ~  tribalism, which predates Islam by millenia, is actually the largest contributor to violence in Islam, to include honor killings, vendettas, and power struggles.

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by The Holy Bible:  ~  Genesis 16:11  And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12  And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.


What TeamNelson said is backed by the teachings of the highest authority of mankind.     How can we not sense the relationship with his decendants of today?
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2010, 02:56:01 PM »
FOURBEE. AMEN brother. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2010, 05:44:38 PM »



What TeamNelson said is backed by the teachings of the highest authority of mankind.     How can we not sense the relationship with his decendants of today?

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There are a large number of people in this world that would disagree with that opinion.
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2010, 02:46:17 AM »
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by FourBee ~ What TeamNelson said is backed by the teachings of the highest authority of mankind.     How can we not sense the relationship with his decendants of today?

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  by- scatterbrain ~There are a large number of people in this world that would disagree with that opinion.


Ain't it the truth ?  And their numbers are growing by the minute.  ;)
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Re: Muzzies killing each other .....
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2010, 02:50:55 AM »
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There are a large number of people in this world that would disagree with that opinion.



True. The godless ones and their supporters. The world needs to wake up and see islam for the fast growing cancer it is and deal with it accordingly. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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