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Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« on: November 05, 2010, 10:48:12 AM »
Olberman has been suspended indefinitely without pay.  It seems he made some compaign contributions to 3 Democrat candidates which violated his contract.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 12:14:09 PM »
Olberman has been suspended indefinitely without pay.  It seems he made some compaign contributions to 3 Democrat candidates which violated his contract.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 12:16:32 PM »
Now both him and Chris lost the tingle. This is a week of great news.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 12:19:32 PM »
Billy, I thought this would make your day.   ;D

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 12:23:29 AM »
If that didn't make your day, you might like this video. It's a memoriam to Olbermann. It's pretty funny!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reason-tv-keith-olbermann-in-memoriam/
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 04:03:38 AM »
I heard about the suspension on the news.  It just proves that not all news is bad news.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 04:17:31 AM »
Well, needless to say----I just disagree with him on all issues.
That said--what business is it of MSNBC that they can say who he supports.
Up front and in plain sight they should have realized who he would support---unless he was a susposed to be a staged act.
Do I aagree with who he supports-----NONONO.
His right to support his conscious---YESYESYES.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 04:38:59 AM »
Trying to assign a principle to anything that Mr. Oberding was concerned with is a waste of time.  It's like saying that Ed Shlitz ain't such a bad guy, because he sometimes is critical of Obwana for not being liberal enough.  The libs gnawing on each other works fine for me.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 08:39:10 AM »
Well, needless to say----I just disagree with him on all issues.
That said--what business is it of MSNBC that they can say who he supports.
Up front and in plain sight they should have realized who he would support---unless he was a susposed to be a staged act.
Do I aagree with who he supports-----NONONO.
His right to support his conscious---YESYESYES.
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Probably just using it as an excuse to do a little house cleaning. Which they badly need.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 08:51:31 AM »
I don't understand why they suspended him. The news media is totally democrats anyhow. I would have thought they would have give him a promotion. Just goes to show you follow your concience and you get the shaft.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 05:19:37 PM »
They have been looking for a way to get rid of this moron (in my opinion) for quite some time.
They finally got their chance and pulled the plug on him. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 09:53:31 PM »
Ratings? I doubt they would fire anybody with good ratings.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 01:51:23 AM »
I don't see a violation of the moron's rights at all. ::) DID HE NOT SIGN A CONTRACT THAT SAID HE WOULD NOT DO WHAT HE DID? HE VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT! ::)
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 02:13:50 AM »
I don't think---from the commentary I read---that he did violate the contract. He was not, susposidly, to voice opinion on who to vote for.
They took it to a point--if he wishes--that is questionable.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 02:22:41 AM »
Has anyone actually read his contract, or are we all SPECULATING? The only info given here is that, he was not to support any candidates according to his contract. If that is the case, he violated his contract by supporting candidates.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 05:43:38 PM »
Doberman is back on Tuesday.
I would say that news is a bummer except I don't watch that garbage anyway. So I don't care.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/olbermann-suspension-ends-tuesday/



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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 05:45:33 PM »
I don't see a violation of the moron's rights at all. ::) DID HE NOT SIGN A CONTRACT THAT SAID HE WOULD NOT DO WHAT HE DID? HE VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT! ::)
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Above might not be the case if the employer selectively applied the policy, or if contracts violated his Constitutional rights....still a country of Law theoretically.  Reportedly he made $7200 contributions divided among 3 candidates. Rumor is FOXy is going to pick him up.... :D ;) :D

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When you work for an employer you may have to give up some of your "rights". If you don't like it, don't work for them. Olberman violated his contract and that is the bottom line. He should be canned.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 05:15:15 AM »
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When you work for an employer you may have to give up some of your "rights". If you don't like it, don't work for them. Olberman violated his contract and that is the bottom line. He should be canned.

This is probably the bottom line.  I have to give up a couple of rights to work where I work, it is legal for me to do a couple things off the property here, but not here...they can can me because they have their own rules.  I guess I want to work here, so while I'm here, I do what they want.  

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 09:18:10 AM »
Guess What !!

He is back, did you think NBC would really get rid of him considering their political leaning. ::)
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 12:50:01 PM »
I don't see a violation of the moron's rights at all. ::) DID HE NOT SIGN A CONTRACT THAT SAID HE WOULD NOT DO WHAT HE DID? HE VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT! ::)
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Above might not be the case if the employer selectively applied the policy, or if contracts violated his Constitutional rights....still a country of Law theoretically.  Reportedly he made $7200 contributions divided among 3 candidates. Rumor is FOXy is going to pick him up.... :D ;) :D

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MSNBC has deemed political contributions by its anchors as a potential conflict of interest issue. He is suppose to disclose his desires in this area and seek agreement or they may seek to keep those he contributes to off his show. As a company they have a right to review areas of potential conflict especially if it’s in this contract. The fact that Fox News does not deploy the same is irrelevant. All companies have different polices and you can’t use the lack of or inclusion of one from another as an excuse. That’s ridiculous.

Olberman should have been canned. The fact that he is back on the air shows what a bunch of idiots MSNBC mang is. Juan Williams was fired and he violated no policy at NPR. Goes sot show you that as long as the target is conservative, the rules apply or are made up. Olberman got away with it because he’s a liberal who gave to a liberal politician. If the reverse were true, he would have been canned.

As far as a contract being constitutional or not, well join the club. When you work for an employer, you may in fact be giving up constitutional rights based on their written policies or contracts that you sign. Like it or not, constitutional or not, it makes do difference. Employment in this country is a pure voluntary arrangement between to employer and the employee. An employer can fire you if they want. Your only hope are the discrimination laws at the state or federal level. If there is no specific discrimination law (race/gender/sex discrimination, ect.) you can leverage, you have a huge up-hill battle on your hands.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2010, 02:49:50 PM »
I guess the real question is: Does anyone here really watch this guy? I don't even know what he looks like, and I don't care.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2010, 03:59:41 PM »
Contracts are why they have lawyers. I fought someone for what was a big $ to me. Roughly a year of salary. When I found out what it would cost to fight it and how everything was subject to interpretation, I settled. I doubt that any employment contract is as black and white as many make them out to be. The team with the most lawyers wins. For that rare exception, they make a movie about it.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 04:02:16 PM »
I watched him a couple of times followed by that silly woman on the same station. Seems you got two idiots back to back. Apparently their shows are the lowest rated on cable.

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 04:08:24 PM »
Could be Marty, but the still pull in big $$ so NBC must be making money as well.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 04:47:05 PM »
Could be Marty, but the still pull in big $$ so NBC must be making money as well.


Yep, I heard  Doberman makes 7 million a year!

If I'd known I didn't have to finish the 6th grade to make that kind of money, I wouldn't have wasted all that time in school!
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 06:06:35 PM »
I watched him a couple of times followed by that silly woman on the same station. Seems you got two idiots back to back. Apparently their shows are the lowest rated on cable.
That would be Kieth Azzholeman and Rachel Madcow.
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2010, 06:15:05 PM »
The fact that Fox News does not deploy the same is irrelevant. All companies have different polices and you can’t use the lack of or inclusion of one from another as an excuse. That’s ridiculous.


I agree with your statement there. I feel however that Fox SHOULD have such a policy,if they really want to keep talking about being "fair and balanced". It might also be a good idea if they didn't have people that pimped fake gold investment schemes for their advertisers.

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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2010, 04:57:54 AM »
The fact that Fox News does not deploy the same is irrelevant. All companies have different polices and you can’t use the lack of or inclusion of one from another as an excuse. That’s ridiculous.


I agree with your statement there. I feel however that Fox SHOULD have such a policy,if they really want to keep talking about being "fair and balanced". It might also be a good idea if they didn't have people that pimped fake gold investment schemes for their advertisers.

I also agree that it is a good policy for news agencies to deploy this policy. It at least can cover one aspect of so called unbiased news. MSNBC is as partician as any news agency can posibally get. MSNBC has met with Obama and his staff in the White House to discuss strategy and news reporting. So this policy cannot and should never be seen as an acid test for unbiased reporting. But I do agee it's good one. One that FOX and the rest should have.
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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2010, 03:29:08 PM »
Well I don't know if MSNBC claims to be unbiased or 'fair and balanced' to the degree that FOXy does. Rupert Murdoch making $1million donation to RNC-GOP seems to negate their fair and balanced claim....don't you think..?

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Re: Keith Olberman suspended by MSNBC
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2010, 09:04:27 PM »
The fact that Fox News does not deploy the same is irrelevant. All companies have different polices and you can’t use the lack of or inclusion of one from another as an excuse. That’s ridiculous.


I agree with your statement there. I feel however that Fox SHOULD have such a policy,if they really want to keep talking about being "fair and balanced". It might also be a good idea if they didn't have people that pimped fake gold investment schemes for their advertisers.

I also agree that it is a good policy for news agencies to deploy this policy. It at least can cover one aspect of so called unbiased news. MSNBC is as partician as any news agency can posibally get. MSNBC has met with Obama and his staff in the White House to discuss strategy and news reporting. So this policy cannot and should never be seen as an acid test for unbiased reporting. But I do agee it's good one. One that FOX and the rest should have.

 I totally agree. The way I see it is,if you have the policy it doesn't mean your not biased and that your organization is fair and neutral. However,if you want to be unbiased and fair,it certainly seems you should have such a policy in place. Like most ethics issues,its not even a matter of whether such a donation means that your biased. We all know,donations or not that journalists,or in the case of infotainment personalities,people vaguely similar to journalists, have preferences as far as politics go. What the donations do is create an appearance of bias. As anyone who knows anything about ethics violations can tell you,the appearance of bias is as bad as actual bias and both should be avoided.

 I understand that in many of these cases,the people involved are not exactly journalists and in fact,some people on fox "news" made the argument that they were NOT journalists but instead were in the field of "news entertainment",similarly I think to the way that Bill Clinton never had sexual relations with "that woman". Its all about re-defining things to excuse your actions. Still,they are on a news network and I think their actions should to some extent be held to journalistic standards. I would think that is why there is a clause in the contract that it needs to be vetted by management,so that it can be decided if its appropriate. I suspect that a physician who did segments on health wanting to give 500 dollars to a local candidate running for mayor in his home town might be allowed to do that. A commentator who had a show about politics and often had politicians on his show,that wanted to give moneys to the campaign of a senator that regularly appears on his show might not be allowed to. It does not just give the appearance that he is biased. That part is probably clear from his commentary on politics in general. What it does is give the appearance that the commentator is an active part of the campaign and using his show as a vehicle to advance his chosen candidates. That crosses the line. Thats why its certainly appropriate for it to be approved by management.