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Veterans
« on: November 05, 2010, 11:26:30 AM »


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October 30, 2008

 

WASHINGTON -- Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.

“The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation’s armed forces,” said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. “This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation’s flag.”

The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem.  Last year’s provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.

Traditionally, members of the nation’s veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag while wearing their organization’s official head-gear. 

The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran.  It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14. 

The earlier provision authorizing hand-salutes for veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, was contained in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, which took effect Jan. 28, 2008.

 


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Re: Veterans
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 11:29:37 AM »
I have to admit its an awkward thing for a Marine to salute uncovered. I realize the Army & Air Force salute uncovered though. I think the bill is a great idea, but I'll probably continue just to stand at the POA.
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Re: Veterans
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 05:27:44 PM »
I thought the same way Team, until I saw a group of old war veterans raise the Flag and salute.
I realized then the laws gave them the war, Uniform, Military policy, Flag, hell and now the Salute.
I will Salute.

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Re: Veterans
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 12:49:24 PM »


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October 30, 2008

 

WASHINGTON -- Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.

“The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation’s armed forces,” said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. “This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation’s flag.”

The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem.  Last year’s provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.

Traditionally, members of the nation’s veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag while wearing their organization’s official head-gear. 

The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran.  It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14. 

The earlier provision authorizing hand-salutes for veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, was contained in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, which took effect Jan. 28, 2008.

 




I never felt like I needed anybody's permission to salute the flag - nor did I wait for it to change.
Goes along with the fact that my oath to defend this country has never been cancelled........

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Re: Veterans
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 06:25:46 AM »
Our church started the service with a tribute to all our veterans, even read a few names of those who have gone on to Heaven. We owe our vets everything. The piano player played a medley of the hymns from all branches of our military.
Mom has an old booklet with transcripts of church minutes from WW11. A lady was asked by the pastor to teach Sunday school, she declined, stating that it was not her place to teach, it was a mans place to do so. The preacher pointed out that there were NO men left in the church, they had all gone to war to defend America. She then said she would do the job til a man returned.
There was also a copy of a letter from one of the men while in France. He wrote of how they had to burrow under the snow to keep from freezing to death. Hug a vet today, and every day. May God bless them one and all, past, present, and  future. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Veterans
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 09:49:58 AM »
I was Color Guard "Captain" in the Coast Guard.  There are few greater duties than to carry our Nation's Colors in ceremony and Parade.  Raising that flag in the morning and retiring it at dusk was a solemn tribute that we respected and earned the right to perform.  I think it awkward to salute out of uniform, as it is so ingrained in me, but will get used to it in time.  Currently, I place my (now) civilian right hand over my heart instead.

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Re: Veterans
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 03:32:15 PM »
While stateside, it was an honor being assigned to the USAF Cerimonial Detail Unit for Fallen Soldiers sent back to Indiana and Illinois in 1967.
Enjoy your rights to keep and bear arms.

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Re: Veterans
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 03:53:02 PM »
Been doing it since I retired it just feels right
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Re: Veterans
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 04:54:54 PM »
I'm with Briarpatch. Since when do I need permission to salute the flag, particularly since I earned the right and payed for in blood? If it embaresses anyone then it is THEY that have the problem and THEY can just get over it! I took an oath and as far as I'm concerned that pledge didn't change with discharge. Simple as that!