been beating myself senseless

[Lloyd Smale]

For about the last week ive been doing daily load work on my 4570 lever and my 50ak. I consider myself about recoil proof but this is wearing on me. Ive been shooting 500 grain bullets out of the ak with 65 grains of benchmark and im hear to tell you it KICKS! the marlin is a custom gun dave clements made for me on a marlin cowboy wiht a barrel cut to 18 inch and its at least a lb lighter then my guide gun. I was shooting 500 grain lfns ahead of 53 grains of ramshot tac and in that light gun it gives the ak a run for its money in recoil. I hope to get this punishment rapped up today. Dont get me wrong even with big loads there fun to shoot but after about 10 rounds the fun goes away and it  becomes work. Funny thing was yesterday i had my 700 300 win mag along and it was like shooting a 22 after taking the pounding from those lever guns.

[BUGEYE]

my eye doctor said those things can detach your retina.

[Lloyd Smale]

got it up to 68 grains and i can believe it could detach something

[S.E.Ak]

You won't notice the recoil if Indians or bears are charging you

[drdougrx]

You'll shoot yer eye out!

[Lloyd Smale]

ive come to the conclusion that if a deer comes out and ive got it im going to give him his choise of either being shot by it or shooting it!!!

[simplicity]

Llyod what are your upper end loads for the 300's? (if you load them) and upper end loads for the 400's I don't load cast so i only really load for bulllets I can find readaly aka 300's and 400's and the rem 405.

[BBF]

Llyod what are your upper end loads for the 300's? (if you load them) and upper end loads for the 400's I don't load cast so i only really load for bulllets I can find readaly aka 300's and 400's and the rem 405.

Hornady makes two and Speer makes one 350 gr cal .458 bullet

[Lloyd Smale]

cant help you much there. I havent loaded a jacketed 4570 bullet for probably 20 years.

Llyod what are your upper end loads for the 300's? (if you load them) and upper end loads for the 400's I don't load cast so i only really load for bulllets I can find readaly aka 300's and 400's and the rem 405.