muslims in truth.

[powderman]

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes,
a well-known leader in prison ministry.
The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.* If you have a pulse you have
a purpose.
*The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion
per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!


Last month I attended my annual training session
that's required for maintaining my state prison
security clearance.* During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers
representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic
had to say. The Muslim gave a great representation
of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked: 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven.
 If that's the case, can you give me the definition of
an infidel?'

There was no disagreement with my statements
and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!'
 I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven is that correct?'*
The expression on his face changed from one of
authority and command to that of a little boy who had
just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
*He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'* I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine
Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless! I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question: Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in
order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who
tells me to love you because I am going to heaven
and He wants you to be there with me?'

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of
the 'Diversification' training
seminar were not happy with my way of
dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the
truth about the Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim
voters in the U.S. to elect the President!
I think everyone in the U.S. should be required
to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way
this will be widely publicized, unless each of us
send it on! This is your chance to make a difference...

********************************************
This was done several years ago and has proven to be true, we now have  the bo, a muslim,  as president. Sad. POWDERMAN. 

[crustylicious]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

[Hooker]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

Stop using the disinformation highway to to call people names.
Read the quran and listen to the leaders of islam they are commanded to kill the infidel ( non believers )


Pat

[lakota]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot.  

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

Will you still love muslims when one is holding a rusty knife to your throat?

Some people can see this barbaric religion for what it is, others are so blinded by political correctness that they wont see it until it is too late.

[powderman]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

Oh my, crustacious, do I detect a guilty conscience??? POWDERMAN. 

[dukkillr]

Please discuss the topic and not your personal feelings of one another.

[powderman]

Well, nobody is disputing the original post, cause it's true. There was an article in todays paper saying the muslims can't understand why they don't feel welcome. Kinda like welcoming a cancer to your body. POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

Invasion can take many forms and many routes. I honestly believe that the orders of clinton to paint US aircraft with nato markings and bomb Yugoslavia, labelling Milosovic enemy, was the biggest boost disinformation will ever get. Milosovic was the leader of a sovereign nation who was defending his country from an islamic invasion. Foreign interest (read that money) murdered him under the guise of genocide and PCness. The muslim invasion was just as guilty of killing christians and burning churches, AKA destroying christian symbolism, as Milosovic. The French came in as UN peace keepers and islam drove them out, burning more churches along the way.  After reading the article and the snopes explaination of it, I still believe that islam is on its way to domination. I also know that I will resist if alive. Turning the other cheek is a great concept. One that is able to be explained by (past)military Chaplains. That phrase in no way means we should kneel and offer our necks to the executioners axe. Anybody, regerdless of faith has the right to defend it.

[Tommyt]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

  Expain yourself ?


Tommyt

[powderman]

tm. HEH. As always, you went from muslims to bad mouthing Americans. So predictable. 
PAT/RICK. Good post, true. POWDERMAN. 

[Tommyt]

powderman My Friend
 Lets sit and watch what the special ones say about this one
Tommyt


Awlaki Video Urges Muslims to Kill Americans
By ROBERT F. WORTH
Published: November 8, 2010
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CloseLinkedinDiggMixxMySpaceYahoo! BuzzPermalink BEIRUT, Lebanon — The radical, American-born cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, called for Muslims around the world to kill Americans and overthrow Arab leaders in a video posted Monday on the Internet.

Mr. Awlaki, who is now thought to be hiding in southern Yemen, has called for violence against Americans before, and his sermons appear to have played a role in a number of terrorist plots. American officials believe he plays an active part in Al Qaeda’s regional branch, which took credit on Friday for the attempt late last month to send explosives by courier to the United States.

In the new 23-minute video, Mr. Awlaki appears at a desk wearing traditional Yemeni garb, including a ceremonial dagger, and says, speaking in Arabic, that no special clerical ruling is required to kill Americans.

“Don’t consult with anyone in fighting the Americans, fighting the devil doesn’t require consultation or prayers or seeking divine guidance,” Mr. Awlaki says. “They are the party of the devils.”

Mr. Awlaki also inveighs against Arab leaders who cooperate with the West, in a style that is common in jihadist sermons. He called on religious scholars to declare these leaders infidels — which would make them legitimate targets for assassination.

“Kings, emirs and presidents are now not qualified to lead the nation, or even a flock of sheep,” he says. “If the leaders are corrupt, the religious scholars have the responsibility to lead the nation.”

The video appears to pre-date the mail freight plot; parts of it were released on Oct. 23.

On Saturday, a Yemeni judge called for Mr. Awlaki’s arrest, a few days after he failed to show up at a trial where he was accused in absentia in a plot to kill foreigners.

Yemen has been under strong American pressure to do something about Mr. Awlaki, particularly since the discovery of the mail freight plot. The cleric, born in New Mexico, has spent much of his life in the United States, and returned to Yemen in 2006. It is not clear exactly when his views — once moderate — hardened into a militant anti-Americanism. American officials believe his eloquent sermons play an important role in recruiting jihadists around the world, and last year they took the unusual step of authorizing his targeted killing.

Mr. Awlaki has been linked to Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people in Fort Hood, Tx., last year, and to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian charged with trying to blow up a Detroit-bound jetliner on Dec. 25.

Mr. Awlaki belongs to the large and powerful Awlak tribe. Leaders of the tribe have said the government is welcome to arrest him, but some fellow tribesmen appear to be sheltering him in Shabwa province, the tribe’s heartland in southern Yemen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/world/middleeast/09awlaki.html?_r=1

[Yak Angler]

powderman your right on track with what you said. The muslims have earned their reputation in life and now they have to live with it. Up here north of the border this country was a much better place without them and I hope to be able to say at some point in my lifetime that its a much better country now that their gone. I just wish we had better imigration laws against those coming from undesirable nations, If i was running the show up here the Arabs would all be sent back to the country they came from. Some people might say that is to harsh a thing to do to them but the only reason their country's suck and they came here in the first place is because they made it that way and I don't want them to make mine any worse then they already have.

[powderman]

powderman My Friend
 Lets sit and watch what the special ones say about this one
Tommyt



TOMMY T. Gosh, I wonder who you mean??? 
ADAM. Agreed Sir. 
tm. You waste more bandwidth than anybody I've ever seen just to say, THE JEWS DID IT. I sincerely doubt that anybody here read all of that, I sure didn't. Did anybody read it??  POWDERMAN. 

[SwampThing762]

Crustafarian, the koran requires muslims to kill nonbelievers.   look it up yourself.  otherwise, please do not be so crustaceanous.

[powderman]

tm. I, and all rational people, already know the root of the problem in the mideast, as well as most of the world, islam. You want peace??? Really want peace??? I don't think you do. I believe you want to see Isreal completely destroyed and your brethren in charge of the entire world. IF your  godless friends would quit murdering innocents, sawing peoples heads off, attacking soft targets all over the world, attacking Israel, and laid down their arms, the whole world would be at peace. If Israel laid down her arms their godless neighbors would slaughter them all, every man, woman, and child, then renew their attacks on the world. True statement, even you know this to be true. POWDERMAN. 

[powderman]

IF your  godless friends would quit murdering innocents, sawing peoples heads off, attacking soft targets all over the world, attacking Israel, and laid down their arms, the whole world would be at peace. If Israel laid down her arms their godless neighbors would slaughter them all, every man, woman, and child, then renew their attacks on the world.



tm. I ask again. True??? Or false??? Your converts here may also feel free to answer. I DO want an answer, preferably yes, or no. POWDERMAN. 

[Yak Angler]

I think the only real problem occuring in the middle east is that Arabs live there. And we all know there is nothing worse than them. Maybe one in a hundred or so doesn't stink like they went 2 months without a shower and maybe that same one person in a hundred doesn't want to kill everyone else who made the world a decent place to live because the rest of the worlds god doesn't show up on a flying carpet when you rub the side of bottle.

I'm sure if we had the ability to go back in time before Arabs lived in the middle east im sure that part of the world geographically speaking was probably quite nice.

[powderman]

ADAM R. Good post, true.
tm. Still awaiting your answer as well as your converts. I can make another thread if you like, but I want an answer. Easy enough, feel free to answer true statement, or false. POWDERMAN. 

[lakota]

Stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow-minded bigot.  

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

Will you still love muslims when one is holding a rusty knife to your throat?

Some people can see this barbaric religion for what it is, others are so blinded by political correctness that they wont see it until it is too late.

"'Lakota"...When Christian and jews reached the New World they first made friends with the American Indians when they were cold and hungry. Later, when they wanted their land they soon villified them, called them pagan devils, savages, and pretty much waged endless war with them breaking every treaty along the way,,until 100 million natives in the New World were genocided or enslaved. The saying is history repeats itself.....and ain't that the Truth when ignorance prevails. Yua ta hey...


..TM7

I hope you were never on the debate team in high school or college because this rebuttal is weak.

And if you would like to use this model as an argument it will be your precious muslims that will be enslaving and commiting genocide-look at their behavior throughout history and NOW.

[powderman]

tm. I see you are online, answer the question or I'll make the question into another thread. POWDERMAN. 

[powderman]

tm. I made another thread and it never made it to the board. Answer the question please. POWDERMAN. 

[snuffer#1]

This is the way I feel. BO needs to be impeached for being an incompetant idiot and then brought up on charges of treason for the crimes against the lawful and LEGAL residents of Arizona. One thing I'll say for Sarah Palin, she has a set and talks plain. I don't believe she's never made a mistake, but I think she has a real passion for being an American. The inevitable will happen; but it's sad we could have made a difference!! I'm neither a D or R, but I'm an American, and I believe in doing the right thing. One other thing, if we were a democracy I could see people could do as they please; but the USA is NOT A DEMOCRACY, IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.!!

[powderman]

HEH. I knew you wouldn't answer, just more wasted bandwidth without telling the truth about your godless heroes. Try again. What I said is true and you know it. You take the cake tm. POWDERMAN. 

[powderman]

HEH. Another non answer. Just another of your anti Israel rants. Answer the question tm, I spoke the truth. POWDERMAN. 

[saddlebum]

Hi!
I'm here today to conduct a survey of all those who are reading this thread. I would like to say that your privacy will be respected, but it won't. I would like to say that this is an impartial survey, but it's not. I would like to say that all of the information gathered here will be used solely for statistical data for the forum, but it won't. I would like to say that all the information and participants in this survey will be kept confidential, but they won't. I would like to show you my privacy policy, but I don't have one. I would like to give you some incentive to participate, but I don't have any. Please feel free to answer the one question survey and do so at your own risk. Take your time, read the question carefully and give an honest answer to the best of your ability. Thank you for your participation!

The survey question is;
Did you read all of the two, "books", consisting of post numbers, 15 and 27 that were posted on page one of this thread?

[billy_56081]

Kinda steriotypical from "the Jews did it" feller.

[saddlebum]

To your question...I do not see zionist Israel under constant attack...this is delusional. You would think they would be given your irrational rant,,,but they are not. Who HAS been under constant diabolical attack, occupation, attacked with WMD, villified, false flagged, poisoned, genocided for the last 60 years by the counterfeit Babylon, with help of the neo-crusaders like yourself, are the islamic nations.

This reads like a comic book!  

He forgot that them Babylon guys lasered them, shot them with squirt guns filled with pee, rejected their wives and daughters, ate their camels and goats alive and made them watch, gave them a ''diabolical'' noogie, ''dustified'' their homes, poked em in the eye, gave em a charlie horse, made fun of their momma, "genocided'' their pets, put a ''diabolical'' Wookiee curse on them, played loud music by Billy Rae Sirrus to drive them insane. Oh, the atrocities are more than the stars in the sky.  

But then, HEAR HE COMES TO SAVE THE DAY!!........TA-DA!! It's TM7 to the rescue. Looking like Barney Fife with tights and a cape. He hides his identity behind a hooded mask because he lost his computer to hide behind. He looks as fierce as Lady Gaga. He's hear to dispel all the lies of the Babylon guys and to rewrite the Bible. And if that doesn't work, he will make them throw down their WMDs,(wet mangy dogs), throw their hands up in disgust and run for their lives at the strangest, most unheard of, self made, ridiculous vocabulary ever knowm to man. OOOO, a ''diabolical'' weapon indeed. The Babylon guys will flee in a last ditch effort to hold on to their sanity and not fall prey to the mighty words that have never seen the pages of a dictionary. But!! He is not finished yet! He must then turn his holy and untarnished gaze to the Great Satan of the red white and blue. So much to do in the misguided country of the evil white people........And the saga continues..............

I don't know. I think my story is as good as his......It has at least as much truth in it!  

But what do I know?.....I'm delusional!  

[saddlebum]

OOPPS! I just found out I'm a bigot too!..........Now I really hate myself!   

[powderman]

SADDLEBUM. Great story, sounds like you are doing tms biography. Have you EVER seen anybody crawfish like these libs have to keep from answering a simple yes or no question? It's like some kind of a new dance. POWDERMAN. 

[billy_56081]

Bigots don't read...bigots don't want to risk having their views challenged...they don't want other information as it might crack their bigoted world.  Bigots get their beliefs dictated to them by bigger bigots in the gang.  C'mon...you ought to know this by now...geeezzz

But other people might read.

TM7

It's good you are starting to realize how your blind hatred of Jews and Christians is bigotry. Good thing you are learning here to trust what you see.