Remington Trigger Problem Poll

[CBM]

I have a Remington XCR compact with the "externally" adjustable trigger. I set it to 2lbs and checked with my Lyman pull gauge. My son wanted it heavier, so I adjusted it to 3.5lbs. Shortly afterward the gun fired twice when the safety was clicked to fire. I thought he did it by accident the first time but he insisted he didn't. The second time was the following day and it happened to me and I owed him an apology.

Sent it back to Remington and they claimed I had adjusted it to 1lb but they replaced the trigger anyway. I know the trigger was pulling 3.5lbs when I sent it. I haven't shot it yet. I never adjusted anything but the external screw. I am still scared of it , but hopefully once we start shooting it I will gain some confidence. Haven't shot it since the trigger was replaced !

[DANNY-L]

I've got 4 700s and until this year have never had a problem and its done it twice with the same rifle,newer 7mm mag adl the first time I was set up on my bench,got ready to shoot and it fired putting the safety indent into my thumb which by the way was still visible the next morning,after that I took and cleaned the bolt good,wiped it down free of oil and went to the bench again after a few shots I went to close the bolt and it fired again.So now its got to go to the shop. I also googled 700 safety issues and was surprised at all the claims against remington to include deaths and also to find rem. wants money to correct the issue that they know is causing the AD. This rifle has never been tampered with.

[Swampman]

So here we have 2 rifles that have been tinkered with that went off.

[Drilling Man]

  I had both, the 600 and the 660 in 350 Rem. Mag...  I thought they were terds, but i never had a trigger problem with either one of them.

  BTW, i've also had a few XP100's too.

  DM

[Graybeard]

In that case you have the newest X-Mark Pro and I consider it to be junk. So far I've had only one and I'll likely buy a replacement trigger (after market) for it and might not buy another new Remington rifle until they do something about their fix for a problem I've never seen to exist. I'll take the older one or the X-Mark any day over the Pro.

I have a Remington XCR compact with the "externally" adjustable trigger. I set it to 2lbs and checked with my Lyman pull gauge. My son wanted it heavier, so I adjusted it to 3.5lbs. Shortly afterward the gun fired twice when the safety was clicked to fire. I thought he did it by accident the first time but he insisted he didn't. The second time was the following day and it happened to me and I owed him an apology.

Sent it back to Remington and they claimed I had adjusted it to 1lb but they replaced the trigger anyway. I know the trigger was pulling 3.5lbs when I sent it. I haven't shot it yet. I never adjusted anything but the external screw. I am still scared of it , but hopefully once we start shooting it I will gain some confidence. Haven't shot it since the trigger was replaced !

[bubbinator]

Swampman-Thank you for your service, I am an AF Vet too -'65-'85 w/ 4 yrs in SEA.  I concur with your posts on this issue mostly, especially with the "tinkered with it and it went off crowd". I never heard of this issue until the TV show aired, so it never occured to me when my new Rem 700 Classic(2002) in .221 Fireball dropped the hammer when I closed the bolt!  what in the world!  Did it again! Oh Shucks!(SP)  I'd fired 4 rounds to zero the new scope and this happened.  Safed the gun, got it out a couple months later to pop a feral dog. Just in case I cycled the action, did not drop the hammer, safety was on, when I pushed the safety forward the hammer dropped-OS/what in the world!  Called my agency gunsmith, I am one my State Police armorers, so I'm not a idiot.  He was very familiar with the isse, 30+ yrs, and he agrees with you-idiots tampering with things they shouldn't.  His suggestion to me was take the action out and flush the bolt/trigger groups with copious amounts of Gun Scrubber/Brake Cleaner to flush all the oil the factory adds to preserve the guns prior to sale. I did this, air-flushed it with a can on computer key board compressed air cleaner and Lightly re- lubed with Rem Oil, a teflon-based lube recommended sold by Rem.  Never a hiccup since, many rds down range

[CBM]

Swampman, Can you fill me in on what I'm missing ?? I have an XCR Compact tactical that comes with the 40x (custom shop)trigger not the pro. It is advertised to be externally adjustable(and is) and adjustable from 2-4lbs safely. I stayed within that range but I guess I was "tinkering" and it is my fault and not remingtons. I would agree with you if I took the stock off and adjusted all 3 screws on an older model(which I have done for a friend)or like a x-pro and took off the stock and adjusted the pull weight screw.But in my case it's a factory option...............no different than my Tikka or Sako with adjustable triggers. So I don't get the whole "tinkered" with deal..............why the heck do they sell an externally adjustable trigger if you can not touch it Why did they replace it for free if it's my fault ?

[DANNY-L]

I've got a post on here also and mine has never been touched,but it will go boom on it's own either when you close the bolt or click off the safety. NO TINCKERING HERE!

[charles p]

Only had two rifles to fire at the range when I least expected it, and both were Mod 70 Winchesters.  Yes, I had adjusted their triggers.  I've also done trigger work on all my 700 Rems and had them fail in the workshop, but never in the field.  Anyone who adjusts factory triggers and does not own a digital trigger pull guage, is going to have a problem.  That is a guarantee.  You cannot determine trigger pull without a guage, and when you start setting  hunting rifles at sub 3 lb pull weights, you are very apt to have a problem.

When you tune your trigger (or worst yet, let your brother-in-law adjust it for you) and it fails, you only have yourself to blame - and not the manufacturer!

[Swampman]

I've got a post on here also and mine has never been touched,but it will go boom on it's own either when you close the bolt or click off the safety. NO TINCKERING HERE!

That you know of.

[smokepole06]

Well it seems that this is a very sore subject. I guess if mine has not done it since 1992 [700 Mtn I hunt with], then it won't, I hope. Just got to keep it clean and watch for wear. Now, someone answer me this. I have had several, and still have several 700s. I have a new, un-fired SPS Varmit in .308 WIN. It has the smooth trigger, so I assume that is X-Mark and not X-Mark Pro, no screw in trigger for external adjustment. I assume X-Mark and XM Pro are same otherwise, and neither are alleged to have the "issue"??

[Harry Snippe]

Smokepole o6

If you have one of the rifles that is affected under the recall -what is it to you to have it checked out ?
Remington is covering the cost . I am not sure about shipping Etc , but take a second and look things up on Remingtons site , or at least give them a call.

If there was a recall on your car wouldn't you take it in ?
Remington is willing to spend some money to repair some rifles that could pose a problem .
I think that says Remington indeed cares about the people who have supported the company in the past, as well as for years to come .If you don't have the time , then It says something about you.
The new X triggers as far as I read are fine.
When I heard about the recall - I again bought another remington rifle too!!

[Swampman]

Both triggers are X-Mark Pros.  They are not effected by the recall.

All Remington is going to do is return your trigger to it's original factory setting.

Keep in mind that the liberal media and those who support her position just want Remington gone.

Remington is currently contesting two lawsuits demanding a nationwide recall of the 700 rifle.

"Fixing" the weapons is estimated at costing between $75 and $100 per gun.

"Lawyer Robert Chaffin said: 'So you're talking about a recall campaign that could have cost up to $300 million if it was run to its fullest. "That is actually more than the entire net worth of the company."

[DANNY-L]

I've owned and fired my 700 approximently 200 times in the 12 years I've ownd it,now all of a sudden its giving me problems,I will be takeing it to a rem.licenced gunsmith this week and I'll find more out about it. He is already aware of what the problem likely is. Mine does not appear to have ever been played with. If you google reington 700 safety issues you'll probably be as surprised as I was.

[Swampman]

The facts

http://remington700.tv/pdf/Remington10-29-10.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFIwoZsWHk

[Swampman]

The so called recall Harry Snippe mentioned is for 700s made prior to 1982 only.  That has been in place for many years.  You pay shipping both ways.

They remove the bolt lock and return your rifle.....No thanks!

[Harry Snippe]

The so called recall Harry Snippe mentioned is for 700s made prior to 1982 only.  That has been in place for many years.  You pay shipping both ways.

They remove the bolt lock and return your rifle.....No thanks!

The "SO Called " reports that Swampy did get his way and falsey stated that the safety modifation only applyed to the 700 series until 82 " (Shooters Forum).He got shut down!! ( Well deserved)
Re  Remingtons Web site - the Remington Bot Action SafetyModification Program states
Models 700 , 721 , 722 , xp100 , 600 , 660 , 40x .and is in affect until the end of the year .
Now I see that Remington does want to charge shipping !!!
SO -Who is blowing -the wind Swamp?

Well the lad on Hunting Nut form had his repair covered by Remington. So the queaky wheel gets the grease.
I had about enough on this topic.Beating a dead horse!!You didn't win Swamp -your just a "AH"

[Swampman]

And you're making stuff up.  If the bolt handle will lift with the safety on then the "recall" doesn't apply.

That would be only Model 700s made prior to 1982.  I'm not trying to win.  I'm trying to provide facts.