Here in Ms. We have a special primitive weapons hunt this year. It opened yesterday, I was in my tree stand by 6:30 & loading my atv with a nice doe ( Doe only hunt ) by 7:30. 80yds. H&R Handi in 45-70 with Hornady 325gr. leverevolution ammo. (DRT) 4 last year with this rifle, this is my first deer this year. I went this evening with my cousin and he bagged another nice doe using another H&R 45-70, same ammo as well. He ran about twenty yards before giving up, we just got through eating a mess of backstrap, what a day. I cant say enough about these handies in 45-70, I dont see that they recoil as badly as some people proclaim. They're a little rough with Hornady 325's on the bench, but very managable when hunting.