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Offline Conan The Librarian

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Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« on: November 22, 2010, 05:03:36 AM »
There's so much crazy stuff in the news today it's been a distraction away from the 2nd amendment and related issues. What threats are there now during the lame duck congress?

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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 07:02:40 PM »
Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, to name two dangers.  There are many others,
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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 08:38:19 PM »
What threats are there now during the lame duck congress? 
 

The threat is that the lame duck session will pass.
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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 02:51:53 PM »
Harry Reid's dream to make more illegals--legal.

And Nancy says we need to pass it to see what's in it.
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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 09:26:29 AM »
To Keep their hispanic voters in play for 2010,
they have to do something to impress them.
amnisty may be a key word.
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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 10:30:54 AM »
considering the title of this thread, magooch & SS are waaaaaay off-base. Want to see a 2nd Amendment threat - none of us do, right? - well, here it is. President Obama is appointing a fellow Chicagoan to head the BATFE. Scoundrels. This guy appears to be a gun-grab ideologue, IN THE WRONG PLACE:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun-control-advocate-traver-to-head-atf/

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President Barack Obama has nominated Andrew Traver to lead the the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), and based upon the reaction to the nomination by the shooting industry, you might have thought he nominated a pedophile to run the local PTA. There’s a good reason for that.

Traver isn’t just any nominee, but the special agent in charge (SAC) of the ATF’s Chicago field division, after previous stints in Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., New Orleans, and San Francisco. He lacks any prior experience as a senior-level executive, and considering his Chicago ties, there is every reason to believe the nomination is entirely political in nature, providing the president an opportunity to enact gun control measures without risking his already dismal approval ratings.

Inexperienced and politically connected, Traver has developed a reputation as a gun control advocate. Like President Barack Obama, Traver has been tied to the left-wing Joyce Foundation, which bankrolls various anti-gun organizations and which counts among its many initiatives an attempt to subvert Second Amendment scholarship. Traver lent his voice to a deceptive NBC News article, purposefully blurring the lines between fully automatic military machine guns and civilian-legal semi-automatic rifles that fire one bullet when the trigger is pulled. Traver is also member of the anti-gun International Association of Chiefs of Police.

calling the above-mentioned NBC article deceptive is letting them off lightly. Much more detail here:
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-is-andrew-traver.html

Check this out:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as-seen-on/Warzone_Weapons_Assault_City_Streets_Chicago.html
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Re: Regaining focus on 2nd amendment
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 10:53:35 AM »
yt3, thanks. I have suspected that attacks to the 2A would come quietly, not through grand legislation, but through controlling the means of enforcement, and a coordinated effort to color outside the lines. With ownership of the DOJ in place, there will be no oversight, and the cost to fight violations will be greater than any one person can bear. So even if you have a 2A supportive Judicial, it'll never make it.

We've been looking for the "big push" ... folks here talk about sending out troops to round up your guns. Nope, way too obvious. I just paid $27 for a box of 357 which cost $9 10 years ago (I reload normally but I needed a box). That's just one example. Watch the incidental enforcement of the BATF; the initial confiscation followed by years of process to get them back. Watch the small encroachments. I'm waiting for TSA to ban the transport of firearms and ammo in checked baggage, followed by the mail systems refusing to deliver, or requiring so much money, time and nitpicking ... effectively killing the interstate transfer of firearms for personal or commercial use. So the only way to buy that new gun is to live in the same state as the manufacturer. Sure, it doesn't matter to the folks who live in the same place forever, and never travel at all so they won't pay attention. Eventually, the whole nation will be restricted to storing firearms and ammo in separate containers in your residence or place of sojourn ... you right to keep has been upheld! And you can bear them in your house if you like! That's how it is in Hawaii, the "birthplace" of our President.
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