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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2010, 01:39:32 PM »
 One thing to remember about this.  Obama went toe to toe with the Clintons in the primary.  He was literaly standing between the Clintons and the White House.  Now love 'em or hate 'em, you gotta believe the Clintons are not pushovers.  If there was anything that could have disqualified Barry-O and handed Mrs Clinton the Democratic nomination in '08 you better believe they would have found it and used it.  His surviving an all out proctoscoping by the Clinton's army of invesigators is the best arguement I've heard in favor of his US citizenship.  It's the best proof I've heard because he has indeed spent MILLIONS burrying all traces of his past.

  The mass media hasn't done any back checking of his life, but the Clinton '08 campaign surely did.
+1. However on the other side of that particular coin, we will never be privy to the deals that are enacted on the hill. There has been enough news sources that question and raise evidence in his question of eligibility. Take it how anyone will.  I personally believe he is ineligible.  Will it be more destructive to the US to let him continue or to stop the charade and nullify everything that has been done since his "appointment"?

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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2010, 02:38:20 PM »
...  Will it be more destructive to the US to let him continue or to stop the charade and nullify everything that has been done since his "appointment"?
Many of those who want him out don't care if it destroys the USA to get him out. 

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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2010, 03:14:17 PM »
Why are we entitled to know everything about a republican presidents past but not entitled to know anything about a democrat presidents past?
Because you can trust Democrats.


That is the biggest load of bull I have heard in a long time. No politician can be trusted least of all a democrat
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2010, 03:18:03 PM »
He will surely  destroy the USA if we don't get him out!

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2010, 03:47:32 PM »
He will surely  destroy the USA if we don't get him out!


YEP, that is his intent. The saudi king said several years ago that he would put a muslim in the whitehouse, with the help of blacks and the pantywetters, he did just that. Don't know about the rest of  you but I've had more than enough change. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2010, 04:58:21 PM »
...  Will it be more destructive to the US to let him continue or to stop the charade and nullify everything that has been done since his "appointment"?
Many of those who want him out don't care if it destroys the USA to get him out. 

Thats the paradox of the question. Either way, will/would cause problems. Our nation is in peril IMO. The elected choose a course that we cannot sustain, and should have the sense that God gave them to call it off. IMO, I believe the executive branch has committed conspiracy to cover up his elegibility.

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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2010, 02:55:51 AM »

Because you can trust Democrats....
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  Junior, come on now.  Do you really believe you can trust a politician?  Any politician?  To say that you can trust a politician because, of all reasons, he is affiliated with a particular party stretches the bounds of reality.  I hope you are joking.

   Politicians become affiliated with parties early in their careers based more on how it relates to a local power structure than with any sort of idealism.  "Joining this party will get me elected because I can count on this one's support from when I interned with that one in college..." and so on.  Ideology is important to people's choice of political affiliation, but the people who enter politics and rise to the top are motivated by a lust for power and influence.  It takes a certain type of abhorent mental profile to be a modern, national level politician.  They say anything and do anything to gain and keep office.  We could go for hours on examples of 'leaders' flip flopping on issues, and that's because they don't believe any of it.  It's all about personal agrandisement.  Same for Republicans as for Democrats.  You think any politician want's the great masses armed?  No, they want the 'pro gun' vote.  You think any politician really wants 20 or 50 million new mexican neighbors?  No, he wants the 'Latino vote'.

  A good analogy I have heard is that Republicans vs Democrats is kind of like Yankees vs Red Sox.  Each team has it's loyal followers because each ostensibly represents their region and following.  Boil it down and they are both playing the same game, running the same bases in the same direction.  Be as loyal as you want to either, but don't mistake the symbol on the jersey for virtue.

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2010, 03:19:24 AM »
I was joking.  Should have added a  ;) You can trust a Democrat or a Republican politician to do one thing with 100% certainty--do their best to get re-elected.

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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2010, 07:48:13 AM »
I was joking.  Should have added a  ;) You can trust a Democrat or a Republican politician to do one thing with 100% certainty--do their best to get re-elected.

Junior1942,
That last statement is the most sensible post you have in this thread.

Powderman,
May (the Christian) God help us now that we have a puppet (for foreign govts) in the WH.

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2010, 04:40:19 AM »
I was joking.  Should have added a  ;) You can trust a Democrat or a Republican politician to do one thing with 100% certainty--do their best to get re-elected.

  OK, my faith in your sanity is restored.  Political differences aside, that is ;D

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« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2010, 05:35:23 AM »
There are good people in Govt. but there are alot of bad ones also. The bad ones corrupt the good many times. It will take a shake up over the comming elections and the voters willing to suck it up and face less govt. pork to get America back on track. If and when the Birth cert. is checked it will siginal the people taking control back , at least a step. This will be hard for many to take.
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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2010, 11:18:22 AM »
.... If and when the Birth cert. is checked it will siginal the people taking control back , at least a step. This will be hard for many to take.
How many times do you think it should be checked?  Is twice enough?

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2010, 12:05:10 PM »
junior. You are obviously a bo groupie. As many times as it takes to get the truth. Why didn't he comply in the first place??? Why spend millions to cover up the obvious???? POWDERMAN.  ??? ??? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2010, 12:19:53 PM »
The "certificate of live birth" can be checked as many times as ya want. It is still in conflict to those who have said bo was born in kenya. I really do think that Animal Farm should be re introduced as mandatory reading in High School. I will argue that the muslim known as bho is a foreign usurper until I die. World net Daily has quite a few articles, among other sources that I believe over a lying corrupt mass on capitol hill. YMMV

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2010, 01:13:59 PM »
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Because you can trust Democrats.

Obviously you have not read any of the legislation they wrote and put on Bush's desk or Obama's desk just recently.  
Democrats are the worst of the crooks and have no problem letting us know just how progressive and socialistic they are, they have ruined an entire race of people and are working on the ones that don't vote for them as well.  They are a ruinous bunch, just look at them...Polosi, Frank, Dodd, Biden....you trust them eh?
Every single thing they they have touched has failed or went bankrupt...I mean like everything. The Dems don't even have enough brains to use a calculator or even know what they have done to America they are so dense. They have ruined entire cities and states for God's sake.....And you trust them? You have got to be kidding.  

  

 






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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2010, 01:25:22 PM »
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Because you can trust Democrats.

Obviously you have not read any of the legislation they wrote and put on Bush's desk or Obama's desk just recently.  
Democrats are the worst of the crooks and have no problem letting us know just how progressive and socialistic they are, they have ruined an entire race of people and are working on the ones that don't vote for them as well.  They are a ruinous bunch, just look at them...Polosi, Frank, Dodd, Biden....you trust them eh?
Every single thing they they have touched has failed or went bankrupt...I mean like everything. The Dems don't even have enough brains to use a calculator or even know what they have done to America they are so dense. They have ruined entire cities and states for God's sake.....And you trust them? You have got to be kidding.  
Hey, no kidding . . . . you're out of touch with reality.... 

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2010, 01:45:28 PM »
Junior1942,

Three cases in point......California, New York, and Detroit, Michigan.  And, no kidding.

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2010, 01:49:48 AM »
.... If and when the Birth cert. is checked it will siginal the people taking control back , at least a step. This will be hard for many to take.
How many times do you think it should be checked?  Is twice enough?

Once is enough if the real one is offered for checking not a copy or a reproduced one . If there is not an org. then he should be out.
Hey we are talking about a position where the guy in it can start a war that will destory the world . we ain't talking a fake ID for beer here.
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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2010, 02:21:58 AM »
.... If and when the Birth cert. is checked it will siginal the people taking control back , at least a step. This will be hard for many to take.
How many times do you think it should be checked?  Is twice enough?

Once is enough if the real one is offered for checking not a copy or a reproduced one . If there is not an org. then he should be out.
Hey we are talking about a position where the guy in it can start a war that will destory the world . we ain't talking a fake ID for beer here.
Can you read an entire sentence and not just skim it for words which reinforce your prejudices?  If so, read this: The original has been certified as original TWICE by REPUBLICAN officials in Hawaii.  Let me know if you didn't understand that sentence and I'll repeat it.

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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2010, 04:34:44 AM »
Well, who woulda thunk it.  Rejected again. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/29/scotus.birther.appeal/

Notice that the "The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge . . ."  Aren't there some right winger judges on the Supreme Court?  Wonder why one of them didn't have a comment?  Couldn't be because they thought the challenge was ridiculous and a waste of the court's time, huh? 

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« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2010, 07:10:30 AM »
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Three cases in point......California, New York, and Detroit, Michigan.  And, no kidding.

Ya...and that is just a small sample of what happens over a long period of time with Dems running everything, with the help of a handful of "moderate republicans" from time to time...but mostly...it's a Dem thing for sure.

You would think with all the facts out there and all these failed experiments....someone would wake up and smell the coffee...but instead, entire cities and States are ruined by these people who call themselves "democrats".
Then you have the added problem, of no matter how bad things get...the followers still vote for Dems...simply amazing!  I think you have to be born into that kind of blind ignorance myself, along with closed eyes and a huge feeling of some kind of responsibility to keep voting for them.  What else could it be...with the legislation available to read, all the facts in the open...they will still say..."you must be out of touch with reality"....but ask them if they ever read anything legislation...the anwer is..."no...I elect people to do that for me".  ???  You have to try to be that dense. It's not natural.  Does anyone even realize...that the Dems actually crashed everything they have messed with?  Everything is true...yes, and they seem about to be wrecking the only organization that has tried to keep away from them...our military is next, and has already been hurt by their "feel good" mentality....they let Muslims in and they killed good soldiers, they are about to open up our military to more strange things as well...how long before they trash that? 

The old Dem party is dead...all they did was spend way too much, tax too much,  and lie about it...now we have the "new" dem party...all of the above plus lots of other "fashionable" things....let's not forget our new found "feelings"....yes...lets legislate more feelings.  That sure works huh?

They trashed my state....and we have Detroit taken over by gangs and muslims....tell me no kidding...because I am not kidding at all.





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Re: court possibly hearing birther arguement????
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2010, 07:20:37 AM »
.... If and when the Birth cert. is checked it will siginal the people taking control back , at least a step. This will be hard for many to take.
How many times do you think it should be checked?  Is twice enough?

Once is enough if the real one is offered for checking not a copy or a reproduced one . If there is not an org. then he should be out.
Hey we are talking about a position where the guy in it can start a war that will destory the world . we ain't talking a fake ID for beer here.
Can you read an entire sentence and not just skim it for words which reinforce your prejudices?  If so, read this: The original has been certified as original TWICE by REPUBLICAN officials in Hawaii.  Let me know if you didn't understand that sentence and I'll repeat it.
Not what I heard , If true great. But then how about both parents being citizens ? As for prejudice not really unless following the law to the letter is prejudice
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« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2010, 08:25:59 AM »
The whole thing is fishy.   Two things readily come to mind.   The provided birth certificate has a date of 11/01 in bottom left hand corner.  Thus, it is not original.   Secondly, The papers do not name the child.  The papers only list that they had a son.   That son's name could be Gary Coleman, Jr. for all the info provided to us.   I do not consider him my President, and that is not a prejudice, for the Kool-aid Krowd.

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