i tell ya, it was scary opening morning. from the distance i heard the van pull up, the doors open, then slam shut. i could hear the faint german speaking vermins (amish). this all took place right at daybreak. i was allready in my stand, waiting on the day to begin. i had one nice doe come by with three little ones, a button head come thru not to long afterwards, then a little pukey 6 ptr. the filed right by me went across father in laws little 2 acre scrub patch and into a thick fence row surrounding a little 4 acre field. kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom. 2 deer made it out that i seen. this all took place less than 150 yds from me. i was hugging the tree for dear life. and they wonder why we dont see very many deer around here...... all i know is that a deer slug whistles when it flies by fairly close.