First AZ, now OK

[Pat/Rick]

http://www.newsmax.com/US/IslamicLaw-Lawsuit/2010/12/01/id/378664

I guess the feds judges  don't agree with the concept of "We the People". Is it a requirement to hate the very concept of America to be a fed judge?

[Tommyt]

More than 80 percent of voters approved State Question 755

Now IMHO those 80% need to oust the Judge  
Its Getting sickening that these judges will cross the will and Vote of the People
They work for us or them selfs?

Tommyt

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Oklahoma to Appeal Ruling on Islamic Law Ban
Wednesday, 01 Dec 2010 10:08 PM Article Font Size    


OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Attorneys for the state of Oklahoma will appeal a federal judge's ruling temporarily blocking a proposed voter-approved ban on the use of Islamic or international law.

The attorney general's office filed a notice of appeal in federal court in Oklahoma City late Wednesday.

More than 80 percent of voters approved State Question 755, which would amend the Oklahoma Constitution to prevent state courts from using Islamic law or international law.

U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange earlier this week granted a preliminary injunction that prevents the state from certifying the results of the Nov. 2 election.

Plaintiff Muneer Awad, a Muslim man living in Oklahoma, argues the ban is unconstitutional. He also says it would invalidate his will, which Awad says is partially based on Islamic law.

[powderman]

Good posts guys. Those judges should be fired and disbarred. At least this is proof that Americans are finally waking up and seeing this cancerous islam for what it is. POWDERMAN. 

[jwv]

Early life and education Vicki Miles-LaGrange.
A native of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Miles-LaGrange, received a certificate from the University of Ghana in Accra, Ghana, West Africa in 1973, and graduated cum laude from Vassar College in 1974. She then received her J.D. from Howard University in Washington, DC in 1977. There, she was an editor of The Howard Law Journal.
     Buba Clinton was the one who nominated her to be a Federal Judge so that explains why the Muzzlims went to her. Make no mistake those people know who will be on their side. She might have been born here in Oklahoma, but she cares not for the will of the people of Oklahoma. I hope that some day soon  she can be removed from office.          Jack

[magooch]

If some good old time western juctice could be applied, maybe this judge could be called the "hanging judge."

[Pat/Rick]

If some good old time western juctice could be applied, maybe this judge could be called the "hanging judge."

Good idea! They probably got a hate crime listing for that as well. Nothing like legislating pacifism. Neutering a nation with the stroke of a pen. Eutopian idiots. 

[nomosendero]

Early life and education Vicki Miles-LaGrange.
A native of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Miles-LaGrange, received a certificate from the University of Ghana in Accra, Ghana, West Africa in 1973, and graduated cum laude from Vassar College in 1974. She then received her J.D. from Howard University in Washington, DC in 1977. There, she was an editor of The Howard Law Journal.
     Buba Clinton was the one who nominated her to be a Federal Judge so that explains why the Muzzlims went to her. Make no mistake those people know who will be on their side. She might have been born here in Oklahoma, but she cares not for the will of the people of Oklahoma. I hope that some day soon  she can be removed from office.          Jack

Yep, Libs don't pick these clowns without reason & they block all of the Conservative Judges they can as well. It's all coming back to roost now.

[scootrd]

Personally I could care less whether this law is on the books or not in OK.. The law in it's origin, was not needed nor required irregardless of whether it holds up or not constitutionally...  I just don't get all the hoopla surrounding.  The law in and of itself was to make it illegal for judges to rely on the Islamic code when ruling on cases. Some one name me one US Judge that would ever rely on Islamic code over US law?  

Answer =  None. US Court decisions are based on federal or state laws
Just another frivolous law not needed. I just see it as a waste of taxpayers Time and money.
But whatever floats their boat in OK.

The only folks who are going to capitalize on these silly rulings and the non-existent threat of Sharia law,are lawyer$$$'s.

[guzzijohn]

+1 on scootrd's comments.
Second, yes libs try to block conservative judges just as conservatives try to block all liberal judges. What else is new?
GuzziJohn

[powderman]

As long as there are dems, libs, muzzies and their sympathizers and other pantywetters, laws like this will be necessary. POWDERMAN. 

[-Shaggy-]

Some one name me one US Judge that would ever rely on Islamic code over US law?  

 

Judge Joseph Charles in New Jersey.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/05/advocates-anti-shariah-measures-alarmed-judges-ruling/

He ruled that it is alright for a muslim in America to rape his wife because his religion says he can. And, yes, I know the ruling was reversed by an appeals court. You asked for the name of one US judge that would rely on islamic code over US law........Joseph Charles. There will be others.

[scootrd]

As long as there are dems, libs, muzzies and their sympathizers and other pantywetters, laws like this will be necessary. POWDERMAN.  

You do realize there is also a negative impact to this law ??
I cut and paste cause I don't have time to re-type  -------

[The law]completely ignores the possibility that an Oklahoma state court may be called upon to apply the law of any of the 39 Indian tribes located with the borders of Oklahoma to resolve a dispute. Beyond the obvious First Amendment problems with the law, in their zealous “war” against the phantom Sharia menace, Oklahomans might find unexpected collateral damage to the Ten Commandments, businesses, and now, Native Americans.

Oklahoma has the second largest population of Native Americans in the U.S and law experts like Oklahoma University law professor Taiawagi Helton point out that language in the law banning courts from looking at “legal precepts of other nations or cultures” could pose a problem if applied to tribal legal cases, as the tribes are considered sovereign nations.

In fact, the Oklahoma Indian Affairs Commission released an official memo on October 20 explaining how the “lack of specific tribal law language” could “damage the sovereignty of all Oklahoma tribes” and “starkly reminds [the Commission] that some Oklahoma lawmakers forgot that our nation and state were built on the principles, blood, and back of other nations and cultures, namely, ou[r] tribes”:

If SQ 755 is approved, the lack of specific tribal law language could easily be interpreted by a state judge to leave no room to refer to a tribe’s law to determine the existence of a valid waiver of a tribe’s sovereign immunity, for example. Thus, SQ 755 has the potential to provide state court judges with yet another opportunity to further erode tribal sovereignty.

Residents in Oklahoma thought they were voting to ban Sharia law last Tuesday but it turns out that the new constitutional amendment may also extend to the Ten Commandments. Rick Tepker, a law professor at the University of Oklahoma School of Law believes the "Save Our State" constitutional amendment may have the unwanted side effect of preventing judges from referencing the Ten Commandments. Tepker called the measure "a mess."

"Many of us who understand the law are scratching our heads this morning, laughing so we don't cry," he told CNN. "I would like to see Oklahoma politicians explain if this means that the courts can no longer consider the Ten Commandments. Isn’t that a precept of another culture and another nation? The result of this is that judges aren’t going to know when and how they can look at sources of American law that were international law in origin."
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All this did is create a lot of un-needed ambiguity in law where none was needed..Fodder for lawyers

[billy_56081]

Looks like Shaggy answered your question scoot. No comment?


Oklahoma and other states need to start ignoring the federal government.

[SwampThing762]

The whole situation can be resolved by wording the State Question in such a way that prohibits incorporation of laws "whose borders are not within the national bounds of the United States of America".   Indian tribal laws and practices are protected under treaty, secured by the Constituion. Thus, the Indian Question regarding sovereignty is addressed and preserved in codified law.   Also, since sharia law is practiced in other nations, it is my opinion that such an ordinance would prevent the inclusion of sharia law in legal proceedings.  If it adopted as state ordinance without mentioning any particular religion, there is no 1st Amendment claim.  The state would have basis for a 10th Amendment claim in this circumstance.  Again, this is just my opinion, and I am no attorney.

St762

[nomosendero]

+1 on scootrd's comments.
Second, yes libs try to block conservative judges just as conservatives try to block all liberal judges. What else is new?
GuzziJohn

No one said it was new did they?  I don't worry about Conservative Judges as they are not interested in destroying the rights of we the people & the Constitution which is job 1 for low life Lib Judges.

[Pat/Rick]

Judge Joseph Charles in New Jersey.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/05/advocates-anti-shariah-measures-alarmed-judges-ruling/

He ruled that it is alright for a muslim in America to rape his wife because his religion says he can. And, yes, I know the ruling was reversed by an appeals court. You asked for the name of one US judge that would rely on islamic code over US law........Joseph Charles. There will be others.
[/quote]

I forgot about that shaggy. Seems that there are a few instances that could be construed as the destruction of the US and its sovereignty. As long as there are haters of America I suppose it will be in the forefront of their agenda.

[billy_56081]

Yeah old scoot has been a bit quiet on this subject. Hard to talk around his foot I guess.

[scootrd]

Yeah old scoot has been a bit quiet on this subject. Hard to talk around his foot I guess.

Nothing to be quiet or not quiet about . I have no dog in this fight . As I stated I could care less one way or the other. I just see the law as frivolous and not needed. Our laws already in place already protect against this kind of nonsense. Even if a rogue judge or two did miss-step or overstep (not denying there are wingnuts in every walk of life) Our laws in place already will over turn bad decisions on appeal.  Happens everyday in our court system.

Just silly news Fodder..
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I am most concerned about However, is the precedent affect it may or may not have on Ten commandments or Tribal law.  I see the ambulance chasing Lawyers lining up now to make a name for themselves at great and un -needed $$$$$ to our taxpayers with all the ridiculous challenges this will start clogging up our court system even more.  Just kind of a ridulous , stupid and uncalle for law. But if it makes Oklahoman's sleep better at night from the supposed monsters in the closet  or hiding under the bed ... se la vie. Just kinda silly from my point of view.
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I believe we still have a law on our states books that is is not ok to tie your Giraffe up on main street in front of our capital building.
Was this law needed?  just another silly state law passed at sometime or another.

Here are some other silly Oklahoma state laws still on the books

Fish may not be contained in fishbowls while on a public bus. (but then how do we get them home from the fair?)
It is illegal for the owner of a bar to allow anyone inside to pretend to have sex with a buffalo. (ok it begs the question , are Buffalos allowed in bars to begin with? Cowboys must have wild bachelor parties)
Females are forbidden from doing their own hair without being licensed by the state.
Dogs must have a permit signed by the mayor in order to congregate in groups of three or more on private property.
Oklahoma will not tolerate anyone taking a bite out of another’s hamburger. (what about corn on the cob ? is that ok?)
It is against the law to read a comic book while operating a motor vehicle. (what about newspapers ok? or is just grown adults still reading comic books while driving just wrong? )
It is illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in your boots. (this one kinda scares me that they felt it was so prevalent a problem they actually needed a law to be passed)
People who make “ugly faces” at dogs may be fined and/or jailed.
Cars must be tethered outside of public buildings. (whats good for the horse is good for the Auto!!!)
Tattoos are banned. (Repealed, Effective 11/1/2006. Tattoos are now legal in Oklahoma!)
No one may spit on a sidewalk.
Tissues are not to be found in the back of one’s car. (Tissues with Lipstick other than your wifes better not ever be found in the back of a married guys car else there is lot of splaining to do !!!)
It is illegal to wear your boots to bed. (Are the boots the real issue or just the spurs?)