CSPAN on the Remington 700

[Swampman]

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[Zachary]

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[Bowjack]

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[anweis]

I don't know if the Rem 700 triggers are poorly designed, or faulty, or whatever. I do know that their triggers are poorly adjusted at the factory. In the last 4 years i have looked at and dry fired 12-16 different new Remington 700s, and they all had poor trigger feel, they were all too heavy, creepy, etc. They all needed adjustment, and that  was not well designed, because adjusting is not safe and simple. I stopped looking at the 700s. 
I bought a Sako. It needed nothing but ammo and scope. The trigger adjustments are fool proof, but there is no need for adjustment. The trigger is perfect. I also bought a Winchester 70, and had a Timney trigger installed and adjusted by a reputed gunsmith.
I would not use a 700 as is, i would have a good gunsmith install a good trigger. 

[victorcharlie]

I think many of us own Remington 700's, and most of us have never had a problem.

The point was made that 1% would show a problem, thus, leaving 99% that won't.

That said, there are enough people who claimed to have had misfires, or rather, unintended firing, that the issue is getting harder to ignore and I refuse to believe they're all liars.  There has to be some truth in the matter, and Remington apparently believes the issue is insignificant.  Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle?

Frankly, I have always had a gunsmith smooth and tune my triggers, almost without exception.

I guess the thing to keep in mind is to always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, regardless of who the manufacturer might be.

[Harry Snippe]

Very well said .
I personly feel triggers should be done by a smith who has experiance with the brand . Not some one in the back of his shop with a beer in one had and screw driver in the other . This is what remington has a problem with -as so many guns that do have a problem are first BUBBA'd at home , then go after Remington to repair them.

I turned in my own rifle after it had a AD and remington repaired it no cost to me . Nothing had been done to the gun as far as trigger work went . I did have a gun smith lighten the trigger pull after remington did the repair and was happy with it as long as I kept it .I was a bit nervous  keeping that rifle . But in the last few years started to buy the product again and am pleased so far .

Now Swampy swears there has never ever been a problem with any Remington . Just to prove it he is now buying Winchesters . Next thing he tell us that none of the safetys are stiff to slip off .
And toyoto never had any recall's . We are always making this up.

[George Foster]

Apparently it is a shooter problem.

[pastorp]

Swampy,

Honestly, you will in all probability need to rebarrel the winchesters with a premium barrel if you want them to shoot, remingtons have always had better factory barrels than winchesters in my experience.

Not trying to start a fight with you Winchester guys, just stating my opinion based on experience. If you want hunting accuracy then the winchesters will work, but if you want less than minuite of angle groups buy a Remington or several other brands like Sako that are known for their accuracy. There is a reason Jack O. Rebarreled his model 70s.

Regards,

[Harry Snippe]

It can only happen if

a) The rifle has been tampered with.
b) The rifle has not been maintained properly.
c) Someone is touching the trigger when they take the safety off.

This is and has been a lot of Bull .

It is only your opinion and as far off the rock as any one can get . Give it up!!

[Coyote Hunter]

I think many of us own Remington 700's, and most of us have never had a problem.

The point was made that 1% would show a problem, thus, leaving 99% that won't.

That was about 1% for some models.  Others, like the M600, had closer to a 50% rate according to Remington.