Handi rifle. Advantages over CVA Scout?

[mannyrock]

Dear Guys,

       This is not a trick question.  I'm just askin.

       Assuming that someone doesn't care about using iron sights, or having a wooden stock, and assuming the CVA is in an acceptable caliber, are there any signifcant advantages or positives of the Handi over the CVA Scout?

    Thanks,  Mannyrock
 

[quickdtoo]

The biggest difference is the CVA Scout isn't a switch barrel, the Handi can be fitted with other rifle and shotgun barrels.

Tim

[Spanky]

I have handi's and a scout.
Like the CVA ad says... "It's just a better gun"
The Scout doesn't have any of the "quirks" of the handi's.
Check 'em both out side by side if you get a chance.



Spanky

[gcrank1]

Made in USA and these forums.

[petemi]

Made in USA and these forums.

I agree with that and what Tim said about interchangeability.  I can't fault any of my Handis, and time after time they have drawn the attention of the super high priced snob rifle types for their performance against their multi-thousand dollar toys.  One guy shot two rounds about 3/4 inch apart and my .45-70 put one between them.  Wanna know the truth.....dumbassed luck....but it sure got attention.

Pete

[flinthead]

Handi's are WAY cooler!

[moorepower]

I wish the H&R's weight would be that of the scout. To me for a simple single shot they are too heavy. Now if the Topper would take a high pressure barrel!

[carbineman]

Are the Scouts an accurate out of the box rifle? I've been giving some thought about a 7mm-08 rifle and might want to check out a Scout. What is the pricing? Looks like they weigh less than a handi. Do they come factory standard with a light trigger? I'll check them out more completely.

I have handi's and a scout.
Like the CVA ad says... "It's just a better gun"
The Scout doesn't have any of the "quirks" of the handi's.
Check 'em both out side by side if you get a chance.



Spanky

[STUMPJMPR]

The CVA Scout looks like a nice rifle.  I don't like the location of the barrel release.  I can see myself hanging it on my jacket and breaching the gun right when Mr. 10 pt appears.

[Spanky]

My 44 mag Scout put 5 shots through 1 hole at 100 yds. with 240 gr. winchester ammo. Mine was priced at $279 at my local dealer. I don't know about all of them but my 44 is about 2 pounds lighter than my 44 mag Handi was. The trigger on mine is about 3# from the factory and no creep.
The barrel release takes some getting used to but that's a minor thing.



Spanky

[Mad Dog]

Spanky  has used his Scout, I haven't had a chance to shoot mine yet.  2 things intrigued me about the gun.  1st, the stock fit was absolutely perfect, and 2nd., the barrel is a 1-20' twist, not the 1-38" twist of the handis and marlins.  I'll let you know about acuracy, when I get a chance to shoot it.


Mad Dog

[wganz]

The real competition that the Handi is going to have isn't the CVA Scout but the Savage Axis bolt action. The Savage Axis is $2.00 cheaper at WalMart and the average gun shopper when looking at that price point will take the bolt action hands down every time.

[carbineman]

Anyone have anything new to report? Getting information on these rifles (the Scout) is like pulling teeth.

[gcrank1]

Maybe time to start a new forum just for them???

[geezer56]

I want a 35 Whelen that goes bang when I pull the trigger.  Got a CVA coming in today, we'll see if it's any better than the Handi clikomatic that I have now.  The Handi in 35 Whelen is brutal off of the bench, the much lighter, (on paper anyway) CVA may be more fun than I want to have to work up loads, etc.  After today, though, we'll know for sure.  I love all the other calibers in the Handi rifle, but the Whelen has been a major pain, and the couple of 243's I've tried weren't much better.  I'm persistent though, I have another 243 to work with now, a superlite.

[quickdtoo]

Maybe time to start a new forum just for them???

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/board,198.0.html

[gcrank1]

Thanx Tim!
So many forums, so little time..............

[APEX PREDATOR]

haha There is so many forums i barley get to read anyother ones. I manly stay in the h&r one. Thats why handis are better , can customize them with different barrels,stocks and recievers.

[rdlange]

CVA was always considered a low end black powder rifle where I shot.  Did some serious smithing to several that were given to the club because of problems.  Mostly lock work and poor fitting parts, badly inletted stocks, sights fell off.

The Scout...  I don't like the latch placement, no wood stock, no sights, no barrel exchange, limited caliber selection, advertised as lighter but on the CVA site specs it is 7.1lbs. No custom options so, not much I can do to 'make it mine'. 

Just another plastic rifle, which I guess is good for some shooters especially if it's accurate out of the box.  Looks to be better than the Barztech though.

For the price I'd get an used Marlin or maybe two used Handi.  JMHO...

[geezer56]

Well, I picked up the CVA Scout Whelen today.  I am reasonably impressed.  The trigger feels good, the weight is wonderfully light, balance of handling is good.  It just doesn't feel like a Handi Rifle though.  The stock feels more like a toy than a firearm.  I'm polishing the barrel with Montana Extreme bore paste tonight, I'll try to get a few shots in tomorrow.  If it doesn't detach a retina, I'll be good.  Right now I would still have to give the edge to the Handi, but results may tinge that a little later on.  If it fires reliably and accurately, it will do better than any Whelen Handi I've had. I'll post any results I get and let you guys know what I come up with.

[carbineman]

*From CS at CVA
*All caliber barrels are extractor.
*The factory trigger pull is 3-6 lbs. You can have it lowered by sending it back. I couldn't find out where back actully was.
*The camo stock set shown on the CVA video supposedly is N/A on the Scout.
*The Dead On factory (all in one) mount ring height will accomodate a 40mm scope objective. If you choose to go lower the DS412 S(stainless) or B (black) rail ($13.95)needs to be ordered, and scope rings purchased for weaver style rail.
*Barrel Twist Rates are 1 in 10 for 7mm-08 and 30-06. They indicated the Whelen was also 1-10 the .270 1 in 20(might not be right) and also the .243 1 in 20(might not be right) No info was available on the 44 mag whatsoever.
*Weight 5.8 lbs
* The CS rep was very friendly but not real knowledgeable and the info he was given was not very complete.
* The phone number I used is 770-449-4687

[geezer56]

I still haven't got to shoot the CVA Whelen.  I've been dealing with my dad in the hospital.  Between that and work, no range time.  The scope is mounted, got a Nikon Prostaff 3X9X40 on it.  The edge on mounts goes to the CVA, but it could be a bit lower.  Mine will clear a 50mm scope objective, with room to spare.  The 40mm sits a bit high, it could be down a quarter of an inch and still clear a 40mm.  Hope to get some shooting done early next week, got some days off from work.  Maybe these 358009 cast bullets I have will work in the faster twist of the CVA.

[carbineman]

I still haven't got to shoot the CVA Whelen.  I've been dealing with my dad in the hospital.  Between that and work, no range time.  The scope is mounted, got a Nikon Prostaff 3X9X40 on it.  The edge on mounts goes to the CVA, but it could be a bit lower.  Mine will clear a 50mm scope objective, with room to spare.  The 40mm sits a bit high, it could be down a quarter of an inch and still clear a 40mm.  Hope to get some shooting done early next week, got some days off from work.  Maybe these 358009 cast bullets I have will work in the faster twist of the CVA.

geezer, I am looking forward to your report. I found a place near here that would order me a stainless in 7mm-08, but I'd like to "fondle" one before I make the decision. Your report would be a great help.