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Offline powderman

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Health NYC to Dispatch New ‘Organ Preservation Units’ With 911 Responders


Health care reformers may deny the existence of so-called “death panels,” but New York City’s creepy new “organ preservation” service is hard to ignore.
The New York Times reports (emphases mine):
Some 911 calls in Manhattan will now bring out two ambulances, one hurrying to the scene and one lagging slightly behind.
The first one will try to save the patient’s life. The second one will try to save the patient’s kidneys, in case the first ambulance fails.
After months of grappling with the ethical and legal implications, New York City medical officials are beginning to test a system that they hope will one day greatly increase the number of organs collected for transplant.
For five months starting Wednesday, the city will deploy a specially trained team that will monitor 911 calls for people who may be in danger of dying, like those having a heart attack. If efforts to resuscitate the patient fail, the team will quickly move in and try to save the kidneys; normally, patients who die outside hospitals cannot be donors because if too much time passes after the heart stops beating, the organs are unusable.
City officials said the project would be the first of its kind in the United States, though similar operations have been carried out in Europe. They said that they believed they had solved any ethical problems by adopting what they called very conservative standards for who would qualify as a donor.
To overcome fears that patients would be allowed to die for the sake of their organs, officials said that doctors and paramedics trying to resuscitate a patient would not be told whether the preservation unit was waiting in the wings until a supervisor had given the order to stop rescue efforts. The organ team, which will travel in a bright red and white ambulance marked “Organ Preservation Unit,” is supposed to remain out of sight.

The deceased patient would have to be as an organ donor and the family would would also have to lend their consent. According to the Times, the new trial program is being financed by a federal grant.
So, if you’re in Manhattan and are having a heart attack, wouldn’t it be pretty disconcerting to know that plans to harvest your organs are being made before you even reach the nearest hospital?

WOW, so much for needing a donor card. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: NYC to start sendin organ recovery units with 911 accident call.
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 05:35:07 AM »
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WOW, so much for needing a donor card. POWDERMAN.

It says in the article at the beginning of the last paragraph that the deceased would have to be an organ donor.  Assuming they've taken that step, I can't say that I see anything wrong with doing everything they can to save the organs.  It's a tragedy that one person as died, but why not try to make the best of it and save the life of another in the process, particularly when the deceased has already made their wishes known in this regard?

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Re: NYC to start sendin organ recovery units with 911 accident call.
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 05:52:01 AM »
Seems wrong that a government entity is launching an organ harvest program. What is NYC going to do with the organs once harvested? Sell them to the highest bidder? Make sure alcoholic former Yankee players dont have to wait in line like everyone else for a liver?
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Re: NYC to start sendin organ recovery units with 911 accident call.
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 05:55:49 AM »
They only want organs from 18-59 year olds. I don't think that anyone wants a used up piece of meat from a death panel senior.

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Re: NYC to start sendin organ recovery units with 911 accident call.
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 08:21:51 AM »
Prehaps its time to take the organ donor designation off my drivers lisence.  I understand the medical issues with organs and donations.  I understand too that this life is of a limited nature.  But the gouls being sanctioned by the City, a governmental agency, I see the eventuality of the mistakes, graft, and corruption.  Someone will make a few bucks eventually and it wont be in an honest manner.  I used to think that when I'm dead who cares what they do with the body and I still kinda think that but I be pretty damn mad if people profitted off my organs and tissues in an unethical manner and my family had no say, no connection to the decsions and no payment.