I'd have to advise not buying Pentax, at least not their Gameseeker series. Friend had one (4x12) it went bad after one season, he had to pay 20 bucks plus shipping for "warranty" repair, the new scope they sent never did zero. To add insult, the address his paperwork had in it was not correct, scope got sent back to him, he was out an extra shipping and insurance fee. All this meant he paid 40 bucks for warranty service and he still didn't get a scope worth a hoot.