obama, we are not at war with islam?????

[powderman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfvheuh-WzQ





Good footage of the twin towers, but you'll probably turn the sound off pretty quick. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

Hmmm.... President Obama is saying pretty much the same thing that President Bush said.

Next.

[powderman]

yellow. Maybe, but bo actually means it, president Bush was trying to avoid a bloodbath right here in America. Bush knew exactly what they are. POWDERMAN.  

[yellowtail3]

Yeah? Never heard President Bush refer to muzzies or godless ones. Do I understand that you think President Bush was... lying? Or meant something else? Listen again:

[Pat/Rick]

 Yes Virginia we really are at war with islam. From embassies to wheel chair confined US citizens, to attacks directly on US soil. If we were to be at war with any one nation, whose populace members have comitted acts of war against the USA, that would be quite a few. And were that to be nations who did not share a common belief system I would answer no this is not a war against islam. However, all of the nations to actually commit acts of war against us have held a common bond, with the exception of Timothy Mcvay and the other OK city murderers, they have all had islamic beliefs.Those excluding OK city have ALL been muslim/islam.  That is my basis for why I believe we are at war with not any nation imparticular, but with a muslim belief system. Muslims beliefs will not allow them to assimilate to American ideals or beliefs. Their freedom of religion is based on killing all who do not believe their moo-ham-mud.  YMMV

[lakota]

Dont forget-there may have been muslim involvement in OK City too.http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0602/jkelly.html

[powderman]

PAT/RICK. Good post Sir.
LAKOTA. Thanks for the link, that explains a lot. We are definitely in a war, it's islam against the world, or GWOI, global war on islam.
yellow. Call it what you want but theres no doubt pres Bush knew then, and knows now what the godless ones are. Had he told the truth, the godless ones occupying space in America might have had a pretty rough time celebrating the deaths of 3,000 Americans, many might have died.  POWDERMAN. 

[Graybeard]

I agree with osama on it we're NOT at war with Islam but they are definitely at war with us and everyone else who isn't a muzzlim. We're only playing at war for the profits it gives those who supply the war materials and for whatever reason the cabal that really runs things wants us to be at war for.

[Cabin4]

President Bush! I thought he left office a couple of years ago.....There's a guy, Barack Hussein Obama. People tell me this guy with the Islamic name was elected. Not sure.

They say his real birth name is Barry Soetoro but later changed it to Barack Hussein Obama. I think like Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr who later changed his name to Muhammad Ali after converting to Islam.

Do you suppose Barry Soetoro converted to Islam and thats why he changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama just like Cassius Clay did? Or did he just change his name to an Islamic name becasue he likes the way they sound?

[billy_56081]

I am quite sure GW Bushdid refer to it as a crusade. In fact I know he did.

[powderman]

CABIN4. I believe you are Right, I don't think Bush is still president, and yes, I do believe theres a muslim in the whitehouse, matter of fact theres a bunch of them every Friday when bo holds muslim prayer there. POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

lakota, thanks for that link. Looks like I'll have to review my thoughts about the OK city murderers and change them accordingly.

[elhoward622]

We are at war with Islamic extremists not with all Muslims across the globe.

[jimster]

We are at war with Islamic extremists not with all Muslims across the globe.

Yes we are, or as GB put it, they are at war with us, and it's been going on since I was a young lad.  All the airplanes hi-jackings, bombs going off all over the world since I was very young were Islamic extremists, can't remember anyone else involved too much, now they tell us they pat us down at the airports in case the extemists decide to recruit grandma's and all other folks....sorry, haven't seen them recruit anyone else yet.  Once you get the politics and politically correct stuff out of the way it would be much easier to deal with the problem of Islamic extremists.  They are more than happy to let our weaknesses and politically correct ways help them win by including themselves as part of our constitution and America.  They are part of nothing here in this nation until they assimilate.

[Pat/Rick]

Is that why muslims around the world are standing up saying "see that guy?, he belongs to an extremist cult, he is building bombs in his basement". Or, "Not us, we belong to the muslim "A" religion, our koran has the murder infidels part struck out".  Do any of the "Pro Islam" folks here sponser muslim immigrants? Go to mosques to meet and greet, and make new friends? They're good folks right? Just asking.

[yellowtail3]

Do any of the "Pro Islam" folks here sponser muslim immigrants? Go to mosques to meet and greet, and make new friends? They're good folks right? Just asking.

Pro Islam folks... hmmmm. Are you an Anti-Muslim type?

[Cabin4]

Do any of the "Pro Islam" folks here sponser muslim immigrants? Go to mosques to meet and greet, and make new friends? They're good folks right? Just asking.

Pro Islam folks... hmmmm. Are you an Anti-Muslim type?

How would you define "Anti-Muslim"?

[yellowtail3]

Do any of the "Pro Islam" folks here sponser muslim immigrants? Go to mosques to meet and greet, and make new friends? They're good folks right? Just asking.

Pro Islam folks... hmmmm. Are you an Anti-Muslim type?

How would you define "Anti-Muslim"?

A better & much more interesting question would be, what constitutes "Pro-Islam" in the Pat/Rick world

[stimpylu32]

Not sure about US being at war , no real declaration as such yet that I know of , However the nut balls that think their way is the only way scares the hell out of me , no matter who they are .

That being said , I have figgered out what that thing on their head is , its like a Pepsi cap , at 18 they pull it off to see if they get a Hotel , gas station or a 7-11 . 

stimpy

[Pat/Rick]

What constitutes pro islam? Absolutely nothing. They are the enemy of all that is not islam.

[yellowtail3]

What constitutes pro islam? Absolutely nothing. They are the enemy of all that is not islam.

That's an informative post, thanks. Now - who are the Pro-Islam folks here, that you referred to earlier?

[powderman]

That's an informative post, thanks. Now - who are the Pro-Islam folks here, that you referred to earlier?



yellow. Look in the mirror for a starter.
PAT/RICK. Good post. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

That's an informative post, thanks. Now - who are the Pro-Islam folks here, that you referred to earlier?
yellow. Look in the mirror for a starter.
PAT/RICK. Good post. POWDERMAN.  

POWDERMAN, are you trying to be helpful? Working to solve a mystery. Let's examine it - Pro-Islam? Well, I looked in the mirror - short hair, full beard, great blue eyes that my girlfriend gazes into - What should I be looking for? You think I'm gonna find someone who who hates all that is not Islam?

Next. Maybe Pat/Rick will name all those who hate all that is not Islam. Me? I think you're both nuts.

[Pat/Rick]

Anybody here that wants to associate themselves with any of my statements are perfectly free to do so. If I address anybody in particular I do so by starting or including their screen name in the reply. Pick somewhere else. Have a nice day.

[powderman]

PAT/RICK. I think yellow needs a fresh bait. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

PAT/RICK. I think yellow needs a fresh bait. POWDERMAN. 

I think Powderman needs a bath, some deep reflection, and perhaps some time in the confessional

[DDZ]

Lets see, Islam is at war with us. We think that they are the apostles of peace. I wonder which side has the advantage.
After 911, while we grieved Palestinians danced in the streets. Was this because some of the people that share the same faith as they do, and read the same Islamic bible, took down part of America? A tree is know by its fruit, and the fruit of Islam is fourteen hundred years of violence and bloodshed around the world.
  Muhammad the founder of Islam slaughtered thousands of people establishing and spreading Islam. He told his followers, "who relinquishes his faith kill him. I have been ordered by Allah to fight with people till they testify there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.
Muslims are taught to kill people that resist the Islamic faith. The Quran teaches. "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war"
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: excution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and heavy punishment is theirs in the hereafter"
I'm sure someone will say that this means something other than what it says. How long will America follow the deception that Islam is a faith of peace? They believe that an infidel (a Christian or Jew) has one choice and only one in the Islamic faith,-convert or be killed. Sounds peaceful huh? The word Islam does not mean peace, it means submission. Their objective is for everyone to be in submission to them. 
Islamic terrorists are not fanatics. They are just devout followers of Muhammad who are following his example and doing what their Islamic Bible teaches them to do. We better be at war with Islam because they are at war with us. Deceiving your combatant is part of war, and so far Islam is winning that part. When will America wake up? Or are we to busy soaking ourselves in diversity, to ever wake up? 

[yellowtail3]

Lets see, Islam is at war with us. We think that they are the apostles of peace.

I have never hear that, apostles of peace... who says that?

[powderman]

DDZ. Good post, all true. POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

DDZ, yes, well stated.