Author Topic: BIRTH CERTIFICATE (Read 4256 times)

williamlayton · « **on:** December 08, 2010, 11:07:38 AM »

Just noticed on the news, a birth certificate of Obam's from The U.S.
Anybody else?
Blessings

powderman · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2010, 12:52:46 PM »

NOPE, haven't seen it. The last I saw was one from kenya that was included in a link guzzi posted. POWDERMAN.

torpedoman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2010, 03:53:48 PM »

Quote from: powderman on December 08, 2010, 12:52:46 PM

NOPE, haven't seen it. The last I saw was one from kenya that was included in a link guzzi posted. POWDERMAN.

I saw the one from Kenya also and thought it was strange that Kenya used English on their documents (American English not the British brand)

Cabin4 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2010, 04:17:00 PM »

Obama’s birth date falls into a time period when the state of Hawaii was issuing birth certificates without proof of actual birth required.

Dee · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2010, 03:33:47 AM »

I would be far more interested in seeing his college applications for admittance which would identify his citizenship in Kenya, along with his government grants claiming foreign citizenship. We have learned, or should have learned, that the right court house employee can get you what you need, whether it exists or not.

Range Rider · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2010, 05:09:10 AM »

This is not that hard to understand. We have gone from a nation driven by new ideas and thoughts of up front risk takers to poorly eduated toad stools. The nation has banned any thing that looks like a risk. The population has been trained to follow not lead. The power of media over the masses allows no one to be bothered with thinking problems thru. A nation that was once a leader of the world a provider of food energy and power is now only a shadow on the wall of times past. Guilt has become the weapon of choice used against a once free people. Americans are so over powered by guilt from the 200 year old slave issues to the modern day, you use too much of the worlds wealth. They would not and will not question the back ground of any person who fits into the Damaged by American Greed catagory. Obama was born to a white American woman and a black father. Why did he choose to be black? Why did he choose Islam over his catholic hereitage? Being a poor black African in a greed and guilt driven America will give you a free pass to the top. After all who would question anyone from an abused mixed race background born in Kenya? No one did.

Pass Lake · « **Reply #6 on:** December 09, 2010, 06:04:41 AM »

Yes, I saw his birth certificate in a internet news story yesterday.

Did Tiger Woods choose to be black? Did Lena Horne? No, American society's attitude has labeled people of mixed race as black. :oObama didn't choose Islam; he attended a Muslim school as a kid. His dad was Muslim. Why did I attend a Lutheran church? Because my parents did. I attend a different Christian church today. Obama is a Christian today. Get over it. I do not know of any poor black people who have been given a "free pass" to the top. More than likely, they had to overcome more hurdles than the average white person who got to the top.

We waste too much good air on this insanity. I guess we voice our opinions on what we can comprehend.

wreckhog · « **Reply #7 on:** December 09, 2010, 06:12:50 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on December 08, 2010, 04:17:00 PM

Obama’s birth date falls into a time period when the state of Hawaii was issuing birth certificates without proof of actual birth required.

What is proof of actual birth?

I watched my kid born 2 months early, shouted in joy as the kid cried for the first time, and held my wife screaming as the doc put his hand in and scooped out all the placenta. Since I did not videotape any of this, I don't have actual proof.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2010, 09:53:56 AM »

Quote from: wreckhog on December 09, 2010, 06:12:50 AM

Quote from: Cabin4 on December 08, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
Obama’s birth date falls into a time period when the state of Hawaii was issuing birth certificates without proof of actual birth required.
What is proof of actual birth?

I watched my kid born 2 months early, shouted in joy as the kid cried for the first time, and held my wife screaming as the doc put his hand in and scooped out all the placenta. Since I did not videotape any of this, I don't have actual proof.

Shame on you for not getting an official birth certificate issues by the hospital. I do question if your son is really US born.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2010, 10:16:38 AM »

Quote from: torpedoman on December 08, 2010, 03:53:48 PM

Quote from: powderman on December 08, 2010, 12:52:46 PM
NOPE, haven't seen it. The last I saw was one from kenya that was included in a link guzzi posted. POWDERMAN.

I saw the one from Kenya also and thought it was strange that Kenya used English on their documents (American English not the British brand)

Kenya at the time was an English Colony and the official government language was English.
His grandmother said she was there at the birth.
Theretically he could be A US citizen, British Subject, or Kenyan. Also His stepfather in Indonisia may have has a passport for him.
Even if he is a US citizen, with his mother being a US citizen being born in Kenya excludes him from serving as President.
Still begs the questions of what pasport he carried when leaving the US and entering Pakastan.
Also at the time he went to Pakastan in the late 80 I think it was still illegal in the US to be a dual citizen at the age of 18.
The other question he needs to answer is where did he sign up for the selective service. If he signed up for the selective service then he thought he was a US citizen. If he did not sign up id does not stop him from being president but questions weather or not he thought he was a citizen and by law the Exutive branch of government can not pay him. So no pay as president and no pension for life either.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2010, 10:36:59 AM »

Also with Occidental College refusing to make public his school records, did he go to school on the foreign scholorship program? If he did then he isn't an American citizen and if he is an American, he lied about being a foreigner to get a free education. Some people think he was hired by the CIA when he went to Pakistan in the 80's and that is why his records are sealed.

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2010, 10:42:36 AM »

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Obama is a Christian today. Get over it.

WRONG. Bo attended a hate America all black hate whitey church for over 20 years. He supports the murder of babies and calls it a womans choice to kill, he also supports homosexuality, both of which are abominations in Gods eyes. He therefore has no morals or family values, a Christian he is not. POWDERMAN.

Pass Lake · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2010, 12:59:14 PM »

The Baptist Church in America for a large period of its history was an all white/ hate black Americans church. Blacks were denied even to be buried in the same cemetaries as whites. Among the members of that church are/were Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, Judge Roy Moore, John Birch, Pres. Harding, and Pres. Truman. I assume, therefore, you judge them not to be Christians as well.

What is it like to be you? It must be amazing to be God's appointed judge on earth.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2010, 01:09:47 PM »

Quote from: Pass Lake on December 09, 2010, 12:59:14 PM

The Baptist Church in America for a large period of its history was an all white/ hate black Americans church.

Your painting all Baptist Churches with a broad brush. What we do know, is Obama went to a specific church for 20 years that is well known for it's Hate White People branded theology. What about that?

gypsyman · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2010, 01:28:01 PM »

This matter would have been settled 2 years ago, if he'ld just been upfront. The longer he delayed, the smellier it got. And it still doesn't smell right. After this long he could have had any document made up. Like I said in another post, even if it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he was born in Kenya, nobody at this point will do anything about it. The blacks would riot worse than in '68, and the powers that be, don't want that. Even though it will eventually happen. Only it won't just be the blacks, the poor white class will join them. It will be the hard working middle class, mostly white, that will settle this. Not being prejudice, just stating a fact. gypsyman

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2010, 02:24:06 PM »

I tjought only humans had birth certs.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2010, 02:42:39 PM »

Quote from: Conan The Librarian on December 09, 2010, 02:24:06 PM

I tjought only humans had birth certs.

I think you are correct.

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2010, 03:21:55 PM »

pass lake. None of that has anything to do with the illegal kenyans birth certificate. Are you saying that you think Christians advocate killing babies and homosexual marriage??? POWDERMAN.

williamlayton · « **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2010, 02:36:47 AM »

I will say this--then apologize.
We can stand around and criticize --- do it in am American fashion --- use the truth.
Folks, you are beginning to sound like a mob, feeding off each other.
If you have facts present them. The truth will set you free, lies/distortions/false accuzations/gossip will destroy you and your reputation.
I am sorry i brought up the Birth Certificate and I wish a moderator would delete it.
Blessings

Dee · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2010, 02:53:31 AM »

William I think the frustration are the basis for the remarks. The question is a valid question, and as for the truth, and it setting someone free, it is up to the president to PROVIDE the truth. HE is the one in question here, and HE, is the one that should be providing the TRUTH to the citizens that deserve the truth. It is difficult for the average American to "use the truth" when the topic has spent so much money in "hiding the truth". He's actually getting what he set himself up to get. He could put this question to rest in a matter of minutes, but will not.

Old Fart · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2010, 03:11:02 AM »

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

This is what snopes.com has.

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2010, 03:22:48 AM »

DEE. Good post, I agree.
OLD FART. If it was that easy why has he spent millions hiding it?? I don't believe it. I can probably buy one just like it for castro. POWDERMAN.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2010, 03:23:58 AM »

I still say the Kenyan airport holds the truth!

LONGTOM

LONGTOM · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2010, 04:11:26 AM »

The world may never know!!!

LONGTOM

Sourdough · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2010, 07:36:30 AM »

I don't see the official embossed state seal required for it to be an official document. In other words looks like a forgery to me.

myronman3 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2010, 08:19:08 AM »

my birth certificate is from texas, and it has my mothers name, fathers name, and the doctor's name on it. along with a whole lot more information than is on that one. now i realize that texas is definately different from hawaii, but that looks pretty bland to me for being a legal document. i also have birth cert. for me ex and she was born in wisconsin....and the same holds true for that...there is a whole lot more info on hers than is on that one.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2010, 08:25:54 AM »

Same in Alabama. This birth certificate from Hawaii is only to certify that there was a live birth, not where and who delivered the baby like most do. Some people have ran a ss# check on Obama and there are about 40 something. Some say he was a CIA agent which is why all the closed records and secrecy. Since he had the background and probably spoke Arabic, he was used as a CIA agent in Pakistan.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2010, 09:48:55 AM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on December 10, 2010, 08:25:54 AM

Same in Alabama. This birth certificate from Hawaii is only to certify that there was a live birth, not where and who delivered the baby like most do. Some people have ran a ss# check on Obama and there are about 40 something. Some say he was a CIA agent which is why all the closed records and secrecy. Since he had the background and probably spoke Arabic, he was used as a CIA agent in Pakistan.

The CIA was never into recruiting marksist morons that thought extremely highly of themselves as operatives.
The last person to be hired by the CIA would be BHO. I am not sure he speaks fluent Arabic. he grew up in Indonisia not Saudi Arabia.
While he grew up as a Muslium that does not mean he can speak Arabic. They translate the Quaran. Also saying that would be like assuming that every Jewish boy that was barmitzva'ed can speak fluent Hebrew. He was not there to meet with people on behalf of the US government or any of it's agancies.
Now, being hired by the KGB that looked for people on an ivy league campus or recruited by one of the other intellegence organizations that would be looking for a marksist hate America full of themselves wanting to bring down the great satan. his father was a die hard communist. Sure they would be hiring him in a heart beat to cause problems (Community actavist anyone?) and try to move the country slightly left. Espacally one that is tied to other countries than the USSR, or Pakastan. The farther left we go the more problems will arise and the weaker we will be. The communists still think that Communism works and the whole reason it does not is there are alternatives and the faster the US becomes communist the happier the world will be.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2010, 10:02:07 AM »

Quote from: Pass Lake on December 09, 2010, 06:04:41 AM

Yes, I saw his birth certificate in a internet news story yesterday.

Did Tiger Woods choose to be black? Did Lena Horne? No, American society's attitude has labeled people of mixed race as black. :oObama didn't choose Islam; he attended a Muslim school as a kid. His dad was Muslim. Why did I attend a Lutheran church? Because my parents did. I attend a different Christian church today. Obama is a Christian today. Get over it. I do not know of any poor black people who have been given a "free pass" to the top. More than likely, they had to overcome more hurdles than the average white person who got to the top.

We waste too much good air on this insanity. I guess we voice our opinions on what we can comprehend.

With all due respect have you ever heard of affrimative action ? Do you realize that govt. contracts are awarded to minority contractors that have higher bids only because they are a minority ? Do you realize that contractors that are not minority contractors are advised to partner with a minority contractor if they wish to seek Govt. contracts . What that means is sub the work from someone who is from a minority , who could not do the work on their own. So what you do is pay them to use their minority status. If that ain't a free pass what is ? Over come hurdles BS the red carpet was rolled out

MGMorden · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2010, 10:03:30 AM »

Quote from: powderman on December 10, 2010, 03:22:48 AM

OLD FART. If it was that easy why has he spent millions hiding it?? I don't believe it. I can probably buy one just like it for castro. POWDERMAN.

I sincerely doubt he's spent millions "hiding" it. This issue itself has never even been a real issue outside of a few fringe people desperately grasping at straws trying to find any possible way to get him out of office. Besides that fact, if you wanted to forge a certificate like that, trust me, it wouldn't take "millions" and it wouldn't take time. Anybody with a smidgen of resources could do it in an afternoon.

I do find it funny though. People clamor for the birth certificate for so long, when it's finally released the response is "Well, then, uh, it's probably fake.". the evidence that it's fake? Nothing more than a strong desire that it be so. Like I said - grasping at straws.

The man won the election. He's president. Want to get him out of office? Talk about his real problems - not conspiracy theories, and show up and vote come 2012.