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Offline 30HERRETT

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SW closing TC PLANT !
« on: December 09, 2010, 09:51:49 AM »

   
   Posted 09 December 2010 20:47
Thompson/Center Arms to close Rochester plant


Thursday, December 9, 2010



ROCHESTER — Springfield, Mass-based Smith & Wesson Holding Corp is relocating its Thompson/Center Arms operations from Rochester, N.H., to its Springfield, Mass. facility, according to the City biz Real Estate website.

The site posted the news late Wednesday night.

Foster's Daily Democrat has learned the company bused its employees to a meeting at the Governor's Inn Restaurant around 4 p.m. Wednesday. At the meeting company representatives were reported to have said the Thompson/Center Arms facility would be closed over a period of about nine months.

The closure will effect approximately 250 employees, some who may be offered the opportunity to move the company's Springfield operation.

Foster's also learned over the next couple of weeks there will be meetings with employees to discuss severance issues and the possible relocation of some local workers to Springfield. Employees were also told the company was continuing to look for a buyer for the foundry at the Rochester facility.

According to its most recent annual report, the company owns three manufacturing facilities in its firearm division. Its principal facility is the 530,323-square-foot Springfield plant. It also owns a 38,115-square-foot plant in Houlton, Maine, and the 160,000-square-foot plant in Rochester.

The bulk of the $9 million of estimated cash outlays associated with the relocation will occur in the second half of 2011, and those outlays are expected to be recovered in approximately 24 months. The relocation is scheduled to commence in January 2011 and conclude by November 2011.

As a result of the relocation of its Thompson/Center Arms operations, Smith & Wesson expects to record future expense of approximately $6 million, consisting of approximately $3 million for personnel-related exit costs and approximately $3 million of other facility-related shutdown costs, including costs for moving and facility preparation.

The Springfield facility is primarily used to manufacture handguns and rifles; the Houlton facility is primarily used to manufacture handcuffs, restraints, .22-caliber pistols, metal center-fire pistols, and the Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols; and the Rochester facility is used primarily to produce hunting rifles, black powder firearms, interchangeable firearm systems, and long gun barrels.

The company also owns a 56,869-square-foot facility in Springfield that it uses for the Smith & Wesson Academy, a state-accredited firearm training institution, a public shooting facility, and a retail store; and a 6,000-square-foot retail facility in Rochester.

The company leases office and manufacturing space at four facilities in its perimeter security division. The facilities are all located within a quarter mile of each other in Franklin, Tenn. The total space leased is 61,509 square feet.

The company also leases 2,800 square feet of office space in Scottsdale, Ariz., which houses its investor relations department as well as offices for its board of directors, and 577 square feet of office space in Washington, D.C., which houses certain executive staff. Both of these leases expire on Dec. 31, 2010.

Smith & Wesson acquired Rochester, NH-based Thompson/Center Arms, Inc., a privately held, New Hampshire-based designer, manufacturer and marketer of hunting firearms, for $102 million in cash in 2006.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 11:32:38 AM »
Looks like the bean counters are making big decisions. May be good in the long run but I see a period of shortages  and price increases that exceed the already high priced parts and complete firearms. I don't see the 250 employees moving so there will be a new bunch making the T/Cs. I also see S&W cutting out anything that doesn't make the profit they want. The custom shop is already history so more cut backs may be seen. Hope I'm wrong.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 12:01:55 PM »
I just heard from a dealer (an honest friend, not salesman type)  that their prices on S&W guns is coming down.  Don't kow about the Thompson prices though.

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 12:05:29 AM »
".... in the long run but I see a period of shortages"

Well, we've been in that period the last 3 years. Personally, I don't see things getting better here, this doesn't sound positive.

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 06:07:08 AM »
That is just sad. 

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 06:19:53 AM »
Looks like the bean counters are making big decisions. May be good in the long run but I see a period of shortages  and price increases that exceed the already high priced parts and complete firearms. I don't see the 250 employees moving so there will be a new bunch making the T/Cs. I also see S&W cutting out anything that doesn't make the profit they want. The custom shop is already history so more cut backs may be seen. Hope I'm wrong.

   The Custom shop is due to be reopened in January for barrel making.They have not shut down for other operations.I can see that they might post pone the barrel making until they move.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 09:45:44 AM »
   The Custom shop is due to be reopened in January for barrel making.They have not shut down for other operations.I can see that they might post pone the barrel making until they move.
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 I toured the plant years ago and the custom shop as they call it was nothing but a small shop area set a side to finish  barrels to order ,they told me they pulled a rifled blank from normal production chambered and finished it as per order. Same with the frame and accessories. The casting dept. producton was a seperate building and the firearm frames and small part was only a part of what they produced. I dought they will move much of the factory equiptment  just absorb the T/C line into the S&W production. They biggest portion of the T/C factory was the barrel production, remove that and not much else. All the stocks were out sorced, they showed us the big cement slab where the wood shop was that burned down.

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 01:02:14 PM »
If I wanted it to be seen I would post it anywhere and everywhere. I expect that the continued consolidation of the mfg process will concentrate and distill the product lines , I hope it does not seriously diminish the supply.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 01:10:40 PM »
I feel bad for lots of folks, local mom and pop stores etc.....out of work and losing business.  Like the company I work for....buy out, lay off and contract out for 10 dollar an hour jobs with no pension and no benefits. 

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 05:00:18 PM »
I feel bad for lots of folks, local mom and pop stores etc.....out of work and losing business.  Like the company I work for....buy out, lay off and contract out for 10 dollar an hour jobs with no pension and no benefits. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 03:03:31 AM »
Sounds like Marlin and unfortunately Buick Motor(Flint, MI). Man you should see Flint now?! Population has dropped by a 1/3rd. Only murders and drugs are up. Amazingly sad what what America is doing to itself. I believe my comments on Heir Soros(and some not so fine politicians) would be deleted.

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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2010, 04:43:40 PM »
Hope it works out.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 12:01:42 PM »
The really scary part to me about all the consolidation is that when "uncle" cracks down or public sentiment blows in the wrong direction it will be easier to take down a few firearm manufacturing magnets rather than scattered independents. The old saying the bigger they are the harder they fall could be the outcome with all of us enthusiast coming up on the short end of the stick.

On another note it has been said that scales of economy rule and that the consumer is supposed to be generally benefited by larger companies driving cost out...in my experience it doesn't hold water. These massive companies buy out and absorb their competitors to make more money and and continue to show investors a profit. The economy of scale is absorbed by the corporation and the customer rarely if ever realize a savings.   

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 10:00:01 PM »
I remember something coming up with the Feds wanting the gun makers to stop making certain guns or magazines, can not remember exavctually what it was.  But i do remember Smith and Wesson was the only manufactor that was bowing to the Feds.  The rest stood up and said NO.  So then the whole issue got dropped.  Today I am afraid that if the Feds came back and wanted concessions, S&W would cave, and take others with them since there are fewer not thanks to consolidation, and by-outs.  Never thought TC would sell out. 

Makes me want to get my own equipment and start building my own guns for use here in alaska where they don't have to be registered with the Feds.  We have a new law on the books here in Alaska.  It says if the gun is 100% made in Alaska, for use in Alaska, and sold only in Alaska. It does not fall under the interstate commerce laws that require it to be registered.  Since the Interstate Commerce laws are what gives ATF their authority, and these guns will not fall under those interstate commerce laws, ATF will have no authority to regulate said guns.
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