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« on: December 12, 2010, 01:51:03 AM »
  Does anybody here STILL buy into Al Gore's garbage ?  How many have fallen for the "global warming" scam ?  Even the lemmings at Cancun are having trouble digesting the toxic diet he has been feeding them... ;) :D ;D

   http://theweek.com/article/index/210181/irony-alert-the-unusually-chilly-global-warming-summit
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 02:15:23 AM »
I'm sure there are some, but not many, if any will admit it. Its like trying to find someone that will admit they voted for Obama. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 04:05:46 AM »
DDZ. Not sure about that, there are several that seem pretty proud of their messiah.
Global warming??? Got up to 53 yesterday, dropped to 19 this morning and snow. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 04:51:56 AM »
Even many of the global warming scientists for the UN have left that organization. They have started a new group and will emerge bit by bit a voice of reason. They are tired of the lies and hysteria put forth by the UN, Gore and Strong. They left the UN because the math & science does not add up and they eventually know the real story is going to emerge. And they don't want to be part of it. The global warming alarmists are going to be discredited completely over the coming years. Their own greed will have put them where they belong. But it won’t really matter by then because they will have made the billions of dollars that the hysteria is all about anyway.

There is nothing wrong with good practice that reduces pollution and protects the balance of our environment. Projects to reduce our need of foreign oil imports and leverage alternative local fuel sources are good for jobs, economy and national security. The global warming alarmists are simply using these reasons to drive the solutions to their business as the solution and institute political changes globally that further place them in positions of extreme influence.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 06:57:38 AM »
They seem to be all part of the radical "hate America first" crowd. You will notice that much of our heavy manufacturing has left America..due to their efforts and the tax policies of their radical left buddies in office.
     Now, it is likely China, followed by India may well be the greatest polluter and they are not nearly as "eco conscious" as our own manufacturers.

   So why hasn't he radical left been screaming about the pollution emanating from China & India ? Obviously they are not as determined to destroy the economies of China or India..as they are that of the United States.
      Not difficult to figure their moves, once you reconcile the idea that their main goal in life... is to destroy the USA.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 07:12:23 AM »
The founding father of the global warming movement is Maurice Strong. He resigned from the UN after getting caught up in the fraud and scandal in the UN food for the poor program. He was making millions off the program and was caught red handed along with Cofey Aanan's (UN Secretary General at the time) son. The SG son was being used as a money launderer for Maurice and a few other UN Executives. Maurice had been with the UN for many years as a very high level executive working directly for the Secretary General(s).

After fleeing to China and he is still living in Beijing. He helped the Chinese government start an auto company and they are producing cars right now for the domestic China market. They are the most polluting production cars on the planet. But, he made millions as an advisor to the China government on this specific initiative and helped bring in outside expertise to bring up the factory. The guy is a 100% complete scamer and he is trying to find international markets to for the Chinese to sell thier high polution cars. So much for being the founding father of global warming.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 09:20:40 AM »
I didn't buy into the bogus claims from the start. Unlike alot of the sheeple, I paid attention in class and remembered that, the ice ages came and went because of a natural earth cycle of cooling and warming. However, for any who may believe that global warming was created by man, they are absolutely right! But not by just any man, solely by me because my truck burns a special global warming inducing fuel. I have lost the parts used to make this dastardly conversion and have since repented. To keep me from driving that truck, send me thousands of dollars so I can buy a new truck. Your earth, mankind, puppies, rainbows, and world peace, depend on, and require your action now!! (P.S. please send enough for taxes and licensing as well ). Thankyou, Destructor

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 09:25:38 PM »
Hey Pat/Rick :  Just buy a Toyota ;) :D ;D ;D




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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 10:53:09 PM »
 Just like "The New Ice Age", Y2K and other less-than-well-thought-out-soon-coming-disaster hysterias, the idea of man-made global warming will eventually just fade away and become as if it never was if we let it.

 Those still preaching at The Church of the Flaming Globe will quietly sneak out the rear exit as soon as they discover that the flock isn't coming to be fleeced anymore.

 Will they ever acknowledge their error and be held accountable for the quadrillions of dollars they've caused to be wasted on their religion? Nope.

 Let's not forget any of their names. Bernie Madoff's scandal is peanuts compared to how these fine folks have screwed us over.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 03:54:36 AM »
Victor3, I hope you are right about the global warming hucksters going away, but I don't think they are about to give up.  After all, they are liberals and the one thing I've observed about liberals is that they never quit and they never give up.  They might pause and adjust, but they are unrelenting; it is their life mission to fix what ain't broken and make sure the misery is shared.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 09:05:55 AM »
Y2K and other less-than-well-thought-out-soon-coming-disaster hysterias

Minor pet peeve here, but Y2K wasn't some fear mongering - at least not the computer related parts of it (the Nibiru nonsense and other stuff is whole 'nother thing entirely).  There was a significant chance and likelyhood that if we did nothing to fix the computer software of the time, a LOT of things would have went wrong.  End of the world?  Certainly not, but much of the nation's computer systems would have been doing VERY wonky things for a while.  

Why didn't it happen?  Well, as someone who was working in IT back then (as I still am now, though I was much lower on the totem pole back then), the reason there is simple: WE FIXED IT.  We were patching systems like mad.  Programmers on legacy apps were recoding virtually everything they could find.  Tons of money was sank into it, and yes nothing much happened, because most of our work there was successful.

Saying Y2K wasn't an issue is liking someone saying that the supports on a bridge are about to collapse, so someone takes the warning seriously and goes in and replaces them.  Was it alarmist since the bridge never collapsed?   Of course not - the warning was heeded and the crisis was averted.  It pays sometimes to fix things before they break rather than having an "I told you so!" moment, as satisfying as that can sometimes be.

That said, a lot of the hysteria over Y2k wasn't generated by the people in the trenches fixing this stuff.  For the most part we were just saying "This will be a problem if we don't fix it.  Give us the people and the funds to do so.".  A lot of the end of the world stuff was by panicking people who didn't understand the issue.

Rant mode off :).

PS As an interesting aside, there's also a "Y2038" problem as well.  The Y2K computer bug was mostly an issue on PC's and mainframes, where 2 digit year codes were a common way of keeping track of the current year.  Macintosh computers used a 4-digit year code so they were never in any danger of malfunction (at least not until the year 10,000 ;)).  UNIX based computer systems ALSO had no problem, but for a different reason.  Rather than storing numeric digits in a text format to keep track of the year, they kept track of the date and the time together, in a very strange fashion.  For standard operations, they keep track of it as the number of seconds past Jan 1 1970.  The year 2000 didn't post a problem for these, but for machines with 32-bit processors (many, many systems), they'll run out of space to keep track of the seconds on January 19, 2038 at 3:14:07 (UTC).  At that point they will roll back around to 1/1/1970 again.  Thankfully, with this being 28 years away, and with many systems migrating to 64-bit processors now anyways, this likely won't be much of a problem.  If any old 32-bit systems are still in use then though, we may see some interesting effects :).  

Thankfully, when all the Unix systems finally move over to 64-bit CPU's, they won't have any trouble with the time for 292 billion more years (which is when the register would then not have enough space to count the seconds past 1/1/1970 again ;)).

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 04:57:15 AM »
MGM : thanks for the explain. that was very interesting.  :) I may just stay with the 32 bit system inasmuch as I probably won't be around in 2038. ;D Then again, maybe God will keep me here just so I can watch the stupid liberals and keep loading ammo for the fighters to shoot at the Muzzies. :o ;D ::) God Bless to all.

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 05:17:27 AM »
Just like "The New Ice Age", Y2K and other less-than-well-thought-out-soon-coming-disaster hysterias, the idea of man-made global warming will eventually just fade away and become as if it never was if we let it.

 Those still preaching at The Church of the Flaming Globe will quietly sneak out the rear exit as soon as they discover that the flock isn't coming to be fleeced anymore.

 Will they ever acknowledge their error and be held accountable for the quadrillions of dollars they've caused to be wasted on their religion? Nope.

 Let's not forget any of their names. Bernie Madoff's scandal is peanuts compared to how these fine folks have screwed us over.

  Victor;
  The primary problem with the global warmies is that although the other panic items have cost us dearly..none have cost us near as much as the flaming globe hysteria...
  It has cost us dearly in manufacturing, jobs, building plans , dsriving choices, and all manner of freedoms..   And SOME still swallow the tripe whole, as if Al Gore is not yet rich enough.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 05:27:23 AM »
One of the tactical goals of the flaming global hysteric nuts is to force developed countries to implement increased environmental regulation that add a cost burden to business. There other goal is to make sure that un-developed nations don't comply with the same type of increased and costly environmental regulation. This tactic forces jobs/business to move from developed countries to undeveloped countries for the lower operating costs.Sound familiar?

The real movement behind the Global warming BS is all about money. It a well orchestrated conspiracy by the super wealthy, super influential and 3rd world country leaders like China, India, Russia, ect to rob rich countries of their business and jobs. The conspirators line their pockets. Plain and simple.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 09:27:21 AM »
I may just stay with the 32 bit system inasmuch as I probably won't be around in 2038. ;D

Wouldn't be advisable.  Fixing the Y2038 issue is a side effect of moving to 64-bit, not the sole reason. ;) In general it just gives your computer the ability to work with bigger numbers.  That's good for scientific applications, and for keeping track of really large numbers like the aforementioned date problems, but it also has much more practical uses: a 32-bit computer system only has enough space in it's registers to address 4GB of RAM.  Due to overhead from other parts of the system that typically is reduced to 3GB in real-world applications.  As such, if you want to use 4GB of RAM or more in your computer systems, you pretty much have to go 64-bit.  No worries though.  Virtually all desktop/consumer systems made within the least 3 or 4 years have been 64-bit capable, even if you're still choosing to run a 32-bit version of your OS on it.  I'd wager that the next version of Windows though likely won't even have a 32-bit version available.

You really only see 32-bit processors these days in embedded devices (a consumer level router or cable modem or a DVR for example likely isn't running a 64-bit processor quite yet).

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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 10:19:06 AM »
Y2k, Y2038, 32 bit systems, computers...what does all this have in common with Al Gore and the global warming hysteria?
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2010, 10:42:03 AM »
Y2k, Y2038, 32 bit systems, computers...what does all this have in common with Al Gore and the global warming hysteria?

Someone tried to lump in Y2K (a computer issue) as a sensationalist "the sky is falling" scenario.  Essentially "Yeah, global warming is phooey just like that Y2K stuff!".  A rebuttal that no, that Y2K stuff wasn't needless hysteria followed.  Keeping track is as easy as tracing back the quoted sections. ;)

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 10:59:03 AM »
I was just being a trouble maker trying to get us back to center. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 06:14:53 AM »
Anyone that buys into Algore's crap should be declared a vegetable without a brain and be denied the right to vote. ear
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