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For people to take this article and print it out and hand it to others. Perhaps what they will read below will shock them badly enough to awaken them from their slumber. While your were watching Dancing with the Stars, and Football, GWOTing, and watching FOXy your country was under planned liquidation. T Partiers take special note...40 years of controlled dialetical capitalism vs communism has brought you this,,,which really picked up pace in the W years.


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The following are 19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that are evident,,,click on link below for more details and facts...
 
#1 The United States has lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001.
 
#2 Dell Inc., one of America's largest manufacturers of computers, has announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in China with an investment of over $100 billion over the next decade.
 
#3 Dell has announced that it will be closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in November. Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.
 
#4 In 2008, 1.2 billion cellphones were sold worldwide. So how many of them were manufactured inside the United States?  Zero.
 
#5 According to a new study conducted by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade deficit with China continues to increase at its current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs this year alone.
 
#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to the same time period a year ago.
 
#7 The United States has lost a total of about 5.5 million manufacturing jobs since October 2000.
 
#8 According to Tax Notes, between 1999 and 2008 employment at the foreign affiliates of U.S. parent companies increased an astounding 30 percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time period, U.S. employment at American multinational corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.
 
#9 In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. economic output. In 2008, it represented 11.5 percent.
 
#10 Ford Motor Company recently announced the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in St. Paul, Minnesota. Approximately 750 good paying middle class jobs are going to be lost because making Ford Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford's new "global" manufacturing strategy.
 
#11 As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in manufacturing. The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.
 
#12 In the United States today, consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over half is spent on services.
 
#13 The United States has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.
 
#14 In 2001, the United States ranked fourth in the world in per capita broadband Internet use. Today it ranks 15th.
 
#15 Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.
 
#16 Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of different products. Asia now produces 84 percent of them worldwide.
 
#17 The United States spends approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that the Chinese spend on goods from the United States.
 
#18 One prominent economist is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.
 
#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and according to them that is the highest number of poor Americans in the 51 years that records have been kept.
 

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-facts-about-the-deindustrialization-of-america-that-will-blow-your-mind


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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 06:46:40 AM »
yeah and its ashame that America doesn't smarten up and increase its import tax on Chinese goods at least a whopping 25%. That would bring their prices in line with American made goods.Take the greed out of companies in this country from moving to China.

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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 08:01:11 AM »
buffermop and TM, +1. Tarriffs and import taxes need to be extended to ALL manufacturing outside of the US not just china IMO. Too many jobs have been left to go offshore, our gooberment and some coorporate meatheads believe that a global economy and global stability is only possible by giving America away. That belief has been made possible by converting education into indoctrination. other nations will prosper while the US falls to their level of poverty. Like the bravo sierra system of no child left behind, our college indoctrinated idiots have extended the concept to no nation left behind. "Everybody the same", global socialism at its finest.

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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 08:58:47 AM »
China's economy being three times larger than that of the U.S. is not a bad thing. If you need to sell something having more customers is good.  We need to convince all those Chinese that U.S. grown AND processed food is in there best interests. We must be in the business of produceing things.

This service economy crap befuddles me. If everyone in my town performs the "service" of mowing the neighbors yard, then how are we going to buy any groceries? Now extract the federal taxes and state taxes and municiple taxes from each "transaction" and there is even less available to my local economy. There is no way around increasing the wealth of my community without extracting it from the ground. We cannot just pass a quarter from the left pocket to the right pocket and say we are wealthier.

The sooner we all start working 60 hours a week at $3.00 an hour the sooner this economy will take off I'm afraid.

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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 01:29:07 PM »
Remember, some pigs are more equal than others.

Great post TM7!
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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 02:29:39 PM »
Remember, some pigs are more equal than others.

Great post TM7!

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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 02:59:16 PM »
yeah and its ashame that America doesn't smarten up and increase its import tax on Chinese goods at least a whopping 25%. That would bring their prices in line with American made goods.Take the greed out of companies in this country from moving to China.



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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 06:38:21 AM »
Someone is not telling the full story, because the labor dept. says that the U.S. has more manufacturing than ever and that the GDP of China is only a fraction of what ours is.  That aside, it isn't any wonder that a lot of jobs leave the country and it isn't just because of lower wages; the U.S. has just about the highest corporate taxes in the free world.  Also, U.S. based corporations are all but prevented from reinvesting corporate profits in this country that are earned from foreign operations, because of confiscatory taxes.

As for tariffs; they are a two way street.  I live in a state that exports a hell of a lot of stuff to China and other places.  We place tariffs on their stuff and they recipocate.  No one wins that battle.  If we keep on the road we are on, the money system will correct itself.  Our dollars will be worthless outside this country (and probably inside as well) and we won't be able to afford foreign stuff.
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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 12:37:33 AM »
As much disagreement as we have among ourselves it seems apparent that none of us know all of the truth. As with all things government and political driven, the rulers don't want us to know the truth. Just look at the tax codes as an examle, If you could understand them you might figure out how to beat them. Accountants are much like postal workers in following thier rules. As long as we have profesional politicans that come from a lawyer based, banker controlled system it will never change. They will work to keep us scared and at odds with one another. Same old story it has always been. Nothing new under the sun. ear
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Re: The Dissolution of the United States of America seen from your Living Room
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 02:16:30 AM »
That's one way to look at it. I prefer to notice that US manufacturing output has never been higher. With all the bad news it is easy to confuse manufacturing production with manufacturing jobs. They are not the same thing.

Here's a nice summary:
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/97xx/doc9749/12-23-Brief.shtml

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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 03:43:25 AM »
Reagan put an excise tax on Jap motorcycle's in the '80's, and gave the money to Harley for R/D work. We need a president, with some stone's to do the same thing now. Our manufacturing is not on an level playing field with China's, or most other country's. When, or if, the other country's come up to what is our level of standards,workers pay,pollution,safety, we could compete. As of right now, it's like 2 fighters in the ring, and one is allowed to kick the other in the groin, and the other can't hit below the belt. We're on our way down, and still getting kicked in the groin. gypsyman
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 03:58:38 AM »
I don't see it that way at all. People with businesses that need things manufactured are deliberately flocking overseas to take advantage of the many opportunities there. There are a lot of advantages and cost savings. One of the greatest advantages is reliability. The Asians realize that they stay in business and grow by trading fairly with their partners. Meanwhile, here in the states, a lot of time gets wasted in litigation with partners that do not do what was expected.

By the way, the revolutionary thing at Harley-Davidson had practically nothing to do with manufacturing, or even design. The key ingredient in turning that company around was visionary leadership by the likes of economist Mike Kami and others who saw that a new business model based on marketing was necessary. Since the bikes were necessarily going to cost more to produce in the US, it had to be a luxury market. The new motorcycle designs were needed because the old ones were outdated, but they followed the reconceptualization of the company.  Triumph followed the same model. Meanwhile, for those of us wishing not to pay premium pricing for a great road bike, there are the Japanese bikes. The Japanese, I believe, benefitted more from the H-D reorg because it opened an market that previously scarcely existed: high-end touring bikes like the Gold Wing, and the multitude of cruiser type bikes that look so much like Harleys that you have to be knowledgeable and look close to tell the difference. So, in the end, the mainstream of the motorcycle market is still Japanese, with H-D occupying a niche market.

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 05:02:19 AM »
Its a complex problem . OSHA passes standards that protect workers cost go up. EPA passes laws that protect the enviroment cost go up. Unions get raises cost go up. Products from other countries that are used in our products cost go up. We have done what our fore fathers warned aginst . We are entangled now with the rest of the world but they play by different rules . The foolish idea that if we do something the world will follow is insane . They laugh at us all the way to their banks.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 05:52:28 AM »
I've said this before.  Half our trade deficit is in oil, most of the other half is with China.  First, we need to phase out gasoline vehicles and go diesel and natural gas vehicles.  In 5-10 years, that cuts the imported oil out.  Then we need to press China to either let their money float to balance the trade deficit or add tarriffs as a last resort.  

Another idea is to have all Federal, State, and local governments buy ONLY American made products.  If none are available, then give the companies a couple of years to get a factory here to make the products.  This will help get factories back home.  

A thorough cleaning of government rules and regulations should be made.  Many overlap.  I have to deal with OSHA, EPA, and Highway Departments as well as what the insurance companies require.  OSHA could be eliminated by having all business have insurance and let the private suppliers set the rules and costs like it was before 1974.  Industrial accidents increased after OSHA was implemented.  

Next would be to encourage nuclear power plants to be built as well as synthetic diesel production from coal.  This is a win-win solution.  Cleaner air with nuclear power, and less imports with synthetic diesel made from coal.  

I think we should also do away with farm subsidies.  Use the money instead to buy excess farm production for food storage and commodities instead of food stamps.  

Place a tarriff on imported food that can be produced here.  Coffee, tea, bananas, and cocoa would have no tarriff for example.  

All of these things will bring jobs back to America, or at least start the process.  

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 06:05:45 AM »
DD OSHA came in 71 , Accidents rose because they were reported at that time , before they had not been done so very well. Death in construction is down now. OSHA has a place just not in the way it has evolved . It should not have to force compliance which has been the case. I deal with GOVT. regs also and hate it but some are needed. Would it not be better to only deal with countries that also enforce safety ? And I agree with bring factories here.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 06:08:43 AM »
DD, I'm with you mostly ... I would be concerned that requiring government to buy local will eventually translate into requiring everyone to buy local. Not that stimulating local manufacturing is bad; requiring purchase is bad, and sounds like the argument surrounding obamacare. But I am with you in spirit.

And I'm fairly certain we could grow anything inside the states - coffee for example is great here in HI! I learned today that George Washington was initially incensed by the mercantilist system that required colonials to buy from England, and only grow niche crops for trade. He changed his personal business model to grow all he needed on his own farm - self sufficiency. It may require that our kids be asked to give up their dream of being a sports idol, pop singer, or professional gamer. We may have to look some folks in the eye and tell they're wasting their time and our resources in college. The future is in manufacturing and agriculture or there will be no future.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2010, 08:55:24 AM »
We may have to look some folks in the eye and tell they're wasting their time and our resources in college. The future is in manufacturing and agriculture or there will be no future.


+1 TeamNelson!! Good on the people Like B Gates who make available monies for the underpriveledged to attend college. But realistically, how many will stay with it long enough to get a degree? I am sure there are many like scenarios. Teachers all through school tell kids to go to college, they are all never going to do that.  Construction and manufacturing are the places that folks like that can go to make a decent living. I also think that our K-12 education system should be cut back by two years and the path to college or a trade school be laid out.

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 09:35:36 AM »
Yes, Germany only has 10 years of grade school, then about 65% of their graduates go to a 2 year trade school and only 10% go to college.  Here, 20% of Americans have college degrees.  Some never use them.  Trade skills will at least get you a decent paying job.  Auto mechanics, heating/air conditioning, plumbing, electricians are needs that never go away.  Also 2 year nursing and technician degrees like radiology, dental hygenists.  There are a lot of decent paying 2 year degree jobs.  However, we still need our manufacturing base to return.  Producing our own energy without imports and having cheap abundant energy sources is the begining of a good manufacturing base. 

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2010, 10:15:15 AM »
I agree with trade school , in many cases construction gets people with no training and those who could not make it anywhere else. I work with the local trade schools and hire alot of them . There is a county that offers no school and has this realy lib. lady that called me several times trying to get me to hire troubled youths . I got tired of it and ask her if she wanted the kid working in her home to which she quickly said no. So I ask why she would think I would take responsiblity to put him in other peoples homes. She hasn't called back in 10 years. Am I suppose to put an idoit on a $80,000.00 backhoe ? or let them work on fixtures that are Gold ?
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