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don't ask don't tell
« on: December 18, 2010, 01:09:02 PM »
Thomas jefferson said, the people get the government they deserve. It follows then that the government gives the people the military they deserve. Whoa

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »
News said tonight that the obamination and the gays and dem supporters got their wish. They can now prance and dance openly in our once proud military. Just another nail in Americas coffin. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 02:23:53 PM »
While the panty wetting hate America crowd will bemoan this decision, I'm proud to see that our armed forces with their long and rich history of being at the forefront of social change will once again set the standard for the American ideal of equality. :) :) ;) ;) :-* :-*
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 02:31:04 PM »
While the panty wetting hate America crowd will bemoan this decision, I'm proud to see that our armed forces with their long and rich history of being at the forefront of social change will once again set the standard for the American ideal of equality. :) :) ;) ;) :-* :-*

that makes me want to puke...... >:( >:( >:(

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 02:37:34 PM »
During my career in the navy i knew several sailors who never had girlfriends and never seemed to be to interested in women, never gave it a lot of thought they did their jobs and did them well . I do not know if they were gay or not the subject never came up.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 02:51:46 PM »
This won't end well

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 02:54:14 PM »
BOY, now we can bunk the boys and girls together, share the showers, etc. There are enough real men and women in America without allowing these perverts to be in everybodys face. Shame on the dems, other libs, and pantywetters. Sickening. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2010, 03:20:40 PM »
"You don't have to be straight to shoot straight"- Barry Goldwater
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, and the wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 03:29:07 PM »
The turrett is a Ft Knox paper that I haven't read in a long time but well remember letters to the editor in it. Gis complaining about not being able to take their wives and children to the clubs with them. They were tired of their kids asking, Daddy, why is that man kissing that other man?????? Daddy, why are those 2 women kissing and rubbing all over each other????
I never said anybody had to be straight to shoot straight but this is giving approval to what God says in an abomination in the Bible. Sickening, and sad. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 09:44:27 PM »
I went in the Navy in 57, got out 77. During my time in the service if they caught up with somebody that swung from the wrong side of the plate, they were gone.

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2010, 02:07:24 AM »
Looks like it is time to trade in my old eagle globe and anchor for a membership in the Westboro Baptist Church.

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 02:42:35 AM »
While the panty wetting hate America crowd will bemoan this decision, I'm proud to see that our armed forces with their long and rich history of being at the forefront of social change will once again set the standard for the American ideal of equality. :) :) ;) ;) :-* :-*

  Crusty;
   You seem to be speaking authoritatively..please tell us of your military experience so we can better understand your basis.  Before you start ridiculing military who don't like the new measure..test the idea. Go to some gay bar and bring home one of them and share your meals and bathroom... then take showers together with them for some time, before you do complain about soldiers who may not like the idea of having to do the same thing. ;) :D
   I assume you do not already do this...
 ;) :-*
  

   Squirreluck;
         You have it right!  This won't end well....
  Now, instead of preparing for combat, much time and effort will be spent courts-martialing troops who let the word "gay" or "fag" slip out in daily conversation, thereby "offending" some swish ?  There will also be cases where especially worked up gays will try to come onto another trooper too strongly and will get punched out for it.
  ...Just guess who gets raked over the coals because of the incident !!  We already know, don't we !
  As the rule presently stands, it would be a cut and dried case.."don't ask don't tell"... no excuse for such aggressive moves in the first place.
  How many decent troops will get courts-martialed because they don't want to share a lonely guard outpost with one of them ?  ...And how many outposts will be improperly manned and fail to protect the main force because a couple of them were in the guard dugout..."doing who knows what".

    As you said..."this won't end well".


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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2010, 03:37:28 AM »
Looks like it is time to trade in my old eagle globe and anchor for a membership in the Westboro Baptist Church.



BEERBELLY. HEH. Going to church would be a step forward my friend, just don't listen to that preacher, Let God talk to you. Charlie.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2010, 04:01:19 AM »
 You seem to be speaking authoritatively..please tell us of your military experience so we can better understand your basis.  Before you start ridiculing military who don't like the new measure..test the idea. Go to some gay bar and bring home one of them and share your meals and bathroom... then take showers together with them for some time, before you do complain about soldiers who may not like the idea of having to do the same thing.

If you have ever served in the military or lived in a college dorm you already have done the above, you just didn't know it or was in denial. Most gays that I have known come across with a much more Christian attitude than several who have posted here.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2010, 04:21:02 AM »
Just one more group to cry they are discriminated against!
Just think.. if you are a  black female mexican gay muslim you will go from boot camp to general in a week.
Unless there are hate-monger bigots holding you back!
Then you can get rich by sueing them!
I just wonder how many  non-queer military folks think this is a good idea?
 

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 04:29:21 AM »
It's going to cost the taxpayers big bucks to provide the additional housing and benifits.  I guess we can borrow it from China.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 04:33:46 AM »
Purple tanks, rainbow ships, and pink planes. Don't sound like good camo to me.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2010, 04:34:53 AM »
guzzi. I asked beefore, I'll ask again. You have claimed to be a mennonite and a Christian but openlt support the obamination, queers and killing babies, which are abominations in Gods eyes.  I reckon you have a MUCH different Bible than I do. If you want I'll post scriptures to back that up. Going to church now. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2010, 04:59:08 AM »
Man it's going to be a proud day when a military parade features soldiers and sailors holding hands and hugging and swapping spit.

There is a chance, however, that something good could come from all of this.  That is that maybe straights will refuse to join until separate showers and private rest room stalls are provided at training facilities.  It's been a long time since I served in the Navy and the Air Force, but I never did like group showers and sharing all the special delights of potty parties.  I never could understand why our service men and women shouldn't be allowed the same dignity that civilians would expect.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2010, 05:54:21 AM »
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That is that maybe straights will refuse to join until separate showers and private rest room stalls are provided at training facilities.
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I never could understand why our service men and women shouldn't be allowed the same dignity that civilians would expect.

I guess if the gays get to take showers with people they are attracted to, they are already one up on the straights, who don't get to take showers with who they are attracted to.  So yup...another entire facility is in order, maybe a couple of facilities...one for straight gals, one for straight guys, one for gay gals, one for gay guys.

And this is only the beginning of rule changes, and money spent for rule changes.

I kinda figured don't ask don't tell...don't care...was good enough....seems going out of our way for certain groups always causes more trouble and money in the end.

Not that I really care...or ever really cared about who likes what, but once you open the door, it's open for everybody, not just a few.
Guess we'll have to see how this pans out as far as making the playing field equal for everyone, and see what the cost is going to be. 



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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2010, 06:04:52 AM »
Wait until the earings and make-up are allowed. I did my time in the army 82-90 when one would think it but not know for fact,they'll know it now.

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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2010, 07:18:48 AM »
guzzi. You gonna answer or ignore and hide again???? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2010, 10:53:53 AM »
I read a bible that speaks much to compassion for your fellow man not outright hate and contempt PW and others show toward anyone that does not fit their idea of what their world should be like. It is very sad. IMHO a few of you may be in for a big surprise when you are no longer here on earth. I am quite sure that gays you are worried about in the military would be quicker to protect you than you would them in a firefight because they would see themselves as soldiers first.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2010, 12:16:50 PM »
Romans 1:26-32

I don't have a problem with gays and lesbians I just don't want to know about it.  My sex life isn't the thing that consumes my entire being as their's does.
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2010, 12:20:41 PM »
Way to many touchy feely books out there. The one I read says sodom and gamorah were crispy fried for just such as this homo crap.

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2010, 12:23:38 PM »
guzzi. You'd be wrong, and still didn't answer my question. How can you claim to be a Christian and still support A man and party that supports baby killers and homosexuality???? By supporting that you go against Gods words. Do you actually read the bible???? I'll pm you some scripture to look up if you like, because you are definitely on the wrong side of the fence in my opinion. You could start with Romans, 1 st ch, verses 26-28 I believe, I have plenty more if you like. This is indeed a sad day for our military, and us. I reckon they could always have an all gay outfit, point them towards the enemy and say, if you catch em, you can have them. POWDERMAN.  :( :( :( :( :( :(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2010, 12:27:57 PM »
Darned dbl post again. Sometimes they take forever to load. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2010, 12:49:43 PM »
Time for unisex bathrooms and showers.
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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2010, 01:25:46 PM »
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guzzi. You'd be wrong, and still didn't answer my question.

I did answer your question. Now answer mine. Would you have the character to cover a known gay in a firefight without hesitation?
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Re: don't ask don't tell
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2010, 01:26:51 PM »
Time for unisex bathrooms and showers.



BILLY. The newly remodeled Kroger put in 3 new bathrooms. Left is men, right is women, center for others.
I reckon the new law will now allow the real men to shower with the girls now?????
SEARLOCK. You read right, I reckon thats not in guzzis Bible. First Mennonite I ever saw that was pro gay. I reckon I've never seen a Mennonite Bible. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm