Barrel avaliability?

[buckslayer]

I called H&R a while back to ask what barrels were in stock, and they said none, call back in a few months.  I havn't yet, Ill wait till after Christmas, not sure what hours they will be open this week.
Anyway, I was wondering if any of you have called lately?  Any big game centerfire calibers in stock?  How about the Ultra Slug Hunter 20 gauge?  Any basic Pardner shotgun barrels?
I sold a .280 barrel off a receiver planning on getting a .270 or 30/06, then they went out of stock.  Im getting so Ill take any shotgun or big game center fire barrel, I just want a complete gun.  Thanks for any info on this.

[quickdtoo]

They have barrels in stock,  they had these in stock a week ago.

Tim

.50 Cal Huntsmans, blued 26"

500 S&W, part# FR03440 22" w/sights

222 Rem, part# F404329  22" drilled & tapped

44 mag.part# FR03634 18 3/4" w/sights
 
45-70 part# F403633 18 3/4" w/sights
 
35 Whelen part# F404326 22" w/sights  

[LONGTOM]

222 Rem, part# F404329  22" drilled & tapped

222 ?
Is this a typo?  Maybe should be 223?



LONGTOM

[petemi]

I'm surprised at seeing so many wearing sights  I wish I could use them.

Frank, it's gotta be a typo.

Pete

[je265]

I just got off the phone with customer service and they have never heard of a .222 barrel. I even provided them with the part # from above and they said it wasn't valid. Some guy named Elija. Bummer

[cwlongshot]

Tim commented on this before. I can't link threads easily from my iphone. But he confirmed that YES the 222REM is a new chambering. 

I agree with you guys as to why they chose it, but looks like they did.

CW

[quickdtoo]

It's a 222, confirmed with Brian56 in Ilion, that's why I bolded the last 2 in 222, guess I should have made it red!.  

When he posted, he also stated they had most barrels in stock, but that was in late October.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,218533.msg1099188891.html#msg1099188891

The H&R barrel program is still very strong, we now have most of the barrels in stock. we do not make a 7.35mm Italian. just 35 wheelen & 35 Rem. we now also have 222 barrels available.



                                                                                                              Brian @ Remington repair:

[Frank V]

Tim commented on this before. I can't link threads easily from my iphone. But he confirmed that YES the 222REM is a new chambering. 

I agree with you guys as to why they chose it, but looks like they did.

CW

Because it's one of the best CF .22 cal cartridges to ever come down the pike!
Frank

[cwlongshot]

Tim commented on this before. I can't link threads easily from my iphone. But he confirmed that YES the 222REM is a new chambering. 

I agree with you guys as to why they chose it, but looks like they did.

CW

Because it's one of the best CF .22 cal cartridges to ever come down the pike!
Frank

No doubt Frank!!! No arguments from me!! But in today's selection of calibers, with what's popular today, Remington choosing the 222 is somewhat a mystery! 

CW

[PHATINJUN]

I just don't get it "why 222"? not that it's not a fine old cartridge but... with todays 223 bullets and powders and the 204 Ruger unless it's got a 1-14" twist and is 26" I have a hard time thinking I want one if it is a 1-14 that may open up some rechamber thoughts. Kurt

PS While I'm on a roll I also just don't get how you can run a company when one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. How can they expect you to just send your frame (CS) then we will have the factory tell us what we have and what your choices are and what it will cost you Kurt

[quickdtoo]

Just a WAG, they've had problems with 204 Ruger barrels before, maybe they're 222 Rem Mags and not 222 Rems, the 222 Mag if I'm not mistaken could be made from an overbore 204 Ruger barrel??? I've asked for a confirmation on that possibility. Another WAG possibility is they're an overrun for a European distributor since the 222 Rem is popular in Europe.

Tim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington

Still, the .222 Remington has its marketplace and enjoys considerable popularity in Europe where producers like Sako, Tikka and Sauer chamber rifles for this caliber. Firearms that are factory chambered for the .223 Remington/5.56x45mm NATO caliber are often rechambered for the .222 Rem. for the distribution in countries whose regulations restrict or forbid civilian ownership of "military calibers". Examples of countries with such legislation include France and Spain.

[bigvarmnt]

Man I didn't want to hear this. I have always wanted a 222. I think I may want it in a bolt though. But you know how that goes with these little rifles I just noticed last night as I was finding a frame that a barrel I just got would fit. I have six complete and 6 barrels hanging and another barrel in the cleaning station. I said how did that happen. Some were standing in corners and some were in safes and I never seen them all together at once. I hope there is no more hiding anywhere. Afraid to look around the house now. Was thinking of getting another this week NOW "I" NEED HELP!

222 Mag sounds interesting   Not quite equal to the 223 AI is it?

Wonder what twist these will be. I gotta go do something else

[gcrank1]

Ive been thinking of the 'cooking channel'.........
It seems that anything to do with 'sporting' and me is just hopeless.

[LONGTOM]

Now a 222 mag I would be interested in and I do have an extra frame.
Now the big question.
Just what the heck do they have, what twist and who do you ask for when you call that won't give you the run a round.
Someone that knows the straight dope!!!



LONGTOM

[je265]

I agree with PHATINJUN. I wasn't doubting Tim because I know he has alot of knowledge but when I call the source and they tell me otherwise it makes me hesitant to go through the trouble of sending in my frame if they don't know what's up. Maybe I got the one guy that doesn't know what's going on but even providing him with the part # got me nowhere.
Jim

[quickdtoo]

They are confirmed as being 222 Remington,  part# F404329  22" drilled & tapped, I don't know the twist tho, 1:9" I suspect as with the 223 Rem and Hornet. Madison isn't announcing availability on the Huntsman barrels until they have 500 in stock, I suspect that policy applies to the other chamberings as well, the website won't be updated until they have at least 500 in stock.

Tim

[buckslayer]

Mr. Quick, you never disappoint with the quick info.  Thank you sir!

[quickdtoo]

They have about 3 dozen of the 222 Rem barrels in stock now.

Tim

[je265]

Thanks Tim
I might send in one of my frames. Maybe you can talk to your contact and inform him/her of the mis-information some of their employees are spreading.
Jim

[quickdtoo]

Ilion already knows about the issue and has no idea why CS doesn't at least update their website. Customer Support has long been known for their misinformation, part of the problem is Customer Support is in Madison NC, and the factory is in Ilion NY, it's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing! 

Tim

[je265]

Thanks Tim
Here is a question that spills over from the barrel break-in post. Do you think that the new .222 rem barrels might be of better quality because they are being made with new equipment? I understand that for the price of these barrels they will not compare to custom jobs and I am learning alot by reading here. I recently got a new .223 rifle that I've learned shoots better dirty maybe because the barrel was made on older equipment ? I know there are no guarentees but was wondering what people with way more experience than I have think.
Thanks is advance
Jim

[quickdtoo]

Since the .224" bore is common with several other chamberings, the broaches for rifling will be the same as others, the reamer will be new tho and consequently will cut a chamber to the max tolerance so as it's sharpened, it will cut a slightly tighter chamber, at least that's my understanding as I think it was explained to me a few years ago......assuming my memory is working properly which isn't always the case!!  

Tim

[dannyfro]

Interesting to hear. So does that mean I can order a 35 remington complete? The 222 is a fun round the mildest 22 centerfire I have had the joy to shoot. Are there any other new calibers being considered in the near future?

[Littlepage]

Maybe the 222 were being made for a foreign market.  Some countries may not allow the the 223.  Some countries do not allow military cartridges and 5.56 can be shot in a 223 rifle.

[quickdtoo]

Maybe the 222 were being made for a foreign market.  Some countries may not allow the the 223.  Some countries do not allow military cartridges and 5.56 can be shot in a 223 rifle.

Seems to be an echo in here!!  

Tim

Just a WAG, they've had problems with 204 Ruger barrels before, maybe they're 222 Rem Mags and not 222 Rems, the 222 Mag if I'm not mistaken could be made from an overbore 204 Ruger barrel??? I've asked for a confirmation on that possibility. Another WAG possibility is they're an overrun for a European distributor since the 222 Rem is popular in Europe.

Tim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington

Still, the .222 Remington has its marketplace and enjoys considerable popularity in Europe where producers like Sako, Tikka and Sauer chamber rifles for this caliber. Firearms that are factory chambered for the .223 Remington/5.56x45mm NATO caliber are often rechambered for the .222 Rem. for the distribution in countries whose regulations restrict or forbid civilian ownership of "military calibers". Examples of countries with such legislation include France and Spain.

[quickdtoo]

Interesting to hear. So does that mean I can order a 35 remington complete? The 222 is a fun round the mildest 22 centerfire I have had the joy to shoot. Are there any other new calibers being considered in the near future?

See this previous thread on new accessory barrel offerings, the 35 Rem rifle is already available in some southern markets as a complete rifle.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,222001.msg1099219497.html#msg1099219497

[Littlepage]

Sorry, I must have skip those.  Wonder if there's any odd calibers made for other markets that we don't know about?

[kng]

It looks like H&R has taken all of the barrel pricing info off of their website.  Does anyone know the cost of the "45-70 part# F403633 18 3/4" w/sights"?  How about shipping?

thanks!
-Kyle

[quickdtoo]

Shipping and fitting fees are on the order form, $19 and $25 IIRC, barrel prices are still listed on the acc barrel page, but the 18¾" Trapper barrels aren't listed, it's probably $96 tho.

Tim

http://www.hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.asp

[kng]

Thanks Tim, not sure how I missed that.

I just got off the phone with H&R (866-776-9292).  I spoke with JB and he couldn't find the 45-70 part number (F403633).  When he searched for 45-70 all he found was the 32" and the 22".  I didn't want to send in my receiver without confirming they were in stock.

What would you advise?

thanks!
-Kyle