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Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« on: December 22, 2010, 11:48:43 AM »
I believe S&W and Magnum Research are the only ones still making them. Why hasnt Ruger ever made one? Taurus did make them, along with the 480 ruger and 460 S&W but stopped, why?

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 12:35:14 PM »
I believe S&W and Magnum Research are the only ones still making them. Why hasnt Ruger ever made one? Taurus did make them, along with the 480 ruger and 460 S&W but stopped, why?

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 01:07:43 PM »
Lack of demand. Aside from a novelty.... Who really needs one. If animals evolve to grow armor maybe. It just simply isn't needed. There is no niche. .22 LR has a very good niche as does the .38, .357, .44 Mag etc. They are still produced for these reasons. No market. I think the .41 Mag will eventually fall away too. 

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 02:50:31 PM »
I truly believe that most new calibers are strictly exercises in marketing.  Once the popularity falls off, move on to the next whizz-bang money maker.  Most of the really needed niches were filled years ago by what is common today.  I do enjoy watching the innovations though.
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 11:20:35 PM »
Lack of demand. Aside from a novelty.... Who really needs one. If animals evolve to grow armor maybe. It just simply isn't needed. There is no niche. .22 LR has a very good niche as does the .38, .357, .44 Mag etc. They are still produced for these reasons. No market. I think the .41 Mag will eventually fall away too. 

What Mohawk says...

Who in the heck needs a 500 Magnum, 480 Ruger or 460 S&W for that matter?...

Maybe just to try an impress someone at the range--"Here, shoot this one--Naaa, there isn't any recoil"...

When will we learn the gimmicks of manufactures?...

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 12:56:40 AM »
I have owned the 500 mag in an 8 3/8 Smith and the 460 mag in a 10 3/8 Smith and a 13 inch Encore. Lot of fun to play with but the novelty wears off after a while so I sold them. Still have the 500 mag in a 20 inch Encore Katahdin. Be a while longer before the new wears off of it. I like owning a rifle that with the proper bullet will take any critter I want it to. Now my 22's, 38's, 357 mags and 45 LC's, the new will never wear off of them.
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 01:07:58 AM »
who really needs big bore guns. ME! I find that about everyone that badmouths them are guys that havent used them or guys that cant handle them. Sure you can accomplish about 95 percent of all handgun hunting with a 44 mag but then again you can accomplish 99 percent of all rifle hunting with a 308 and how many guys that badmouth big handguns own magnum rifles and hunt little deer with them. A 500 linebaugh shooting full power loads is no more powerful then a 4570 using factory level loads out of a marlin and how many guys here will say that using a 4570 in the field is silly
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 02:55:34 AM »
who really needs big bore guns. ME! I find that about everyone that badmouths them are guys that havent used them or guys that cant handle them. Sure you can accomplish about 95 percent of all handgun hunting with a 44 mag but then again you can accomplish 99 percent of all rifle hunting with a 308 and how many guys that badmouth big handguns own magnum rifles and hunt little deer with them. A 500 linebaugh shooting full power loads is no more powerful then a 4570 using factory level loads out of a marlin and how many guys here will say that using a 4570 in the field is silly

Well said Lloyd.

I have been shooting the 500 Mag from the day it hit the gun stores, I have owned 6 of them. I have sold 5 of them to friends and fellow shooters after I set them up with red-dot sights, and found loads that shot great in them. The guys are still shooting them as well as myself..

But to get back to the OP's question as to why not so many manufactures don't make guns in the 500 Mag? It is hard to beat a S&W 500 Mag made by Smith & Wesson, the trigger pull is like any other S&W out there smooth and crisp. I also owned a BRF in 500 Mag, and just sold it about a month ago to another hunter that wanted a 500 Mag.  Magnum research is still making the 500 Mag, as well as Thompson Center in there Encore barrels.

Taurus got out of the 500 mag business because people were not buying there version of the 500 Mag, there 500 Mag was nothing close as far as quality of the S&W. I tried one out and think it felt like junk.
 Ruger did not get into the business because the  Blackhawk, Redhawk and Super Redhawk's,  are there bread and butter handguns, none of which can hand the 500 Mag due to the size of the cylinder needed to accommodate the 500 mag case. Ruger knows it cannot compete with the quality of the S&W and made a wise choice to not get into the 500 mag arena. You don't see Ruger making the 475 Linebaugh, 500 Linebaugh or the S&W 460 either..  To much money involved into retooling for such a cartridge.

Now for all you guys that think there is no reason for the 500 mag, I say either you can't handle the 500 Mag, or you never shot one, and if you did, you did not like the recoil or the weight of the gun.. But I have shot well over 10,000 rounds out of my 500 mags, and I have taken several black bear, hogs and a bunch of deer with my 500 Mag. Just because you personally don't see how the 500 mag fits in the world of handgun hunting, does not make you the authority on handgun hunting.

The 500 Mag is not going away, people have said that in 2003 when they first came out, S&W has sold a ton of them and they still sell today, not as much, because the guys that shoot them already have them. But I still see new shooters that get into the 500 mag after a few years with standard handgun cartridges.

The 500 mag is no novelty, it is truly a great cartridge, and a lot of us use them.  When you get 7 years of experience of hunting and taking game with a 500 Mag, come back and talk to me about a novelty. When you put 10,000 round through a 500 mag, and that is no typo, then come back and tell me it is a novelty..  And for the guy that thinks I have to have a 500 mag to impress someone, hell I was impressing people with my handgun hunting when I was shooting my 357 Mag, and killing deer 35 years ago. So I don't need to impress anyone, but I do impress myself as to how well I can shoot my 500 mag off hand with open sights and still kill game. The only person I need to impress is myself.. If you want lessons on the 500 Mag, come see me...
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 04:32:05 AM »
No Lloyd, I have badmouthed rifle calibers with the same novelty value  (: The .30-06 and .300 Mag will take anything in NA. I once owned a .338 Win Mag. After plowing over everything leaving 12" exit holes I thought "Whats the point?" The '06 worked just fine. The only way to increase gun sales is to introduce new calibers. The .280 Rem was to counter the .270 Win......... Really? Its like the new .327 Mag. I guarantee you that if a .330 Mag came about it would make millions because it has all these "advantages". Nothing is broke so there is nothing to fix.  If you want to be on the range and say you have this caliber "look at me" or that caliber that's fine. But when it comes to the purpose of hunting value I don't see the point.  Frankly, the price I would have paid for gimmicks would be a nice down payment on deer rich acreage.....but that's just me.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 06:19:33 AM »
who really needs big bore guns. ME! I find that about everyone that badmouths them are guys that havent used them or guys that cant handle them. Sure you can accomplish about 95 percent of all handgun hunting with a 44 mag but then again you can accomplish 99 percent of all rifle hunting with a 308 and how many guys that badmouth big handguns own magnum rifles and hunt little deer with them. A 500 linebaugh shooting full power loads is no more powerful then a 4570 using factory level loads out of a marlin and how many guys here will say that using a 4570 in the field is silly

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 06:36:58 AM »
Nothing to do with "need" for some of us.  There’s nothing wrong with owning & shooting the biggest and nastiest caliber out there.  Like most things, it boils down to cost & perceived pain.  If you don’t reload the 500 Smith, it becomes very expensive in a hurry for the average guy and for some, if not most; it also is not all that pleasant to shoot with commercial loads.

It might be called a fad to non-reloaders/hunters but for those than do cast, reload and hunt it’s not a fad.  I would call it another “adventure” with a big bore.  Some will do 95% of their “big bore” shooting with reduced loads – some might even call them “mouse-fart” loads but the cost can be less than $0.30 a shot depending if you cast or not.

Now, if you hunt with the revolver you will see the merits of a 480 Ruger up to a 500 Linebaugh Maximum.  Punching 2 big holes at 950fps with very mild recoil in game animals over 500 pounds has some merit.  You can also punch 0.510 holes with bullets weighing 440 grains at 1,600fps in the same animal if you have the desire - or just take out your 32 H&R Magnum with the proper bullet and get the job done with proper bullet placement - your choice.

As for why others don’t manufacture the X-frame revolver – I think it’s the cost, as when you go up against S&W you better have either a superior product, a developed and deserved long standing high quality reputation or deep pockets, if you’re late in coming out with the same product.  BFR gave it a good run but they too fell by the wayside and have been bought out.  Hopefully, they will continue on with the same offerings under Kahr Arms, the new owner.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 06:58:41 AM »
I find that about everyone that badmouths them are guys that havent used them or guys that cant handle them.

I guess if you want to call my opinion badmouthing, then I am guilty…

And, did you just call me a wimp?  Oh by the way Smale, I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, that I can “handle” any one of them as many times as you can buddy…

And so it goes…

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 12:03:36 PM »
Probably the price of ammo and guns, minus the handi. It's a rather niche market for that caliber. Watch at the range next time you go. Most people have problems controling the 357 magnum.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2010, 12:34:12 PM »
Lloyd, it is the little dogs that are barking the most, they can't play with the big dogs, so all they can do is bark...lol

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 12:45:07 PM »
No Lloyd, I have badmouthed rifle calibers with the same novelty value  (: The .30-06 and .300 Mag will take anything in NA. I once owned a .338 Win Mag. After plowing over everything leaving 12" exit holes I thought "Whats the point?" The '06 worked just fine. The only way to increase gun sales is to introduce new calibers. The .280 Rem was to counter the .270 Win......... Really? Its like the new .327 Mag. I guarantee you that if a .330 Mag came about it would make millions because it has all these "advantages". Nothing is broke so there is nothing to fix.  If you want to be on the range and say you have this caliber "look at me" or that caliber that's fine. But when it comes to the purpose of hunting value I don't see the point.  Frankly, the price I would have paid for gimmicks would be a nice down payment on deer rich acreage.....but that's just me.

It is all opinions, and what people want. What makes your opinion any more valid than our's?  If I choose to spend my money on guns that I like and hunt with, why should you care? If you don't like the 500 mag or care about it, why even come to a thread on the 500 Mag?  If you don't have the actual experience with the 500 Mag, what gives credibility to your post?
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2010, 02:18:10 PM »
"Now for all you guys that think there is no reason for the 500 mag, I say either you can't handle the 500 Mag, or you never shot one, and if you did, you did not like the recoil or the weight of the gun.. But I have shot well over 10,000 rounds out of my 500 mags, and I have taken several black bear, hogs and a bunch of deer with my 500 Mag. Just because you personally don't see how the 500 mag fits in the world of handgun hunting, does not make you the authority on handgun hunting.A

Redhawk1, are you a professional hunter or where do you get such game to shoot?  Where can one find hogs in the wild and not on game farms?  Just curious...BCB

"Lloyd, it is the little dogs that are barking the most, they can't play with the big dogs, so all they can do is bark...lol"

Yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip.  There I yipped like a little dog Redhawk1.  By the way, I have a SRH in 44 Magnum that I shoot the Lyman 429650 (320 grains) at 1345 fps--does that start to qualify me as nearly a BIG DOG?  Brass is inexpensive and purchased most anywhere and the molds are available.  Just wondering...

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2010, 06:14:51 PM »
I think its because the tooling cost to have a revolver caliber on its on special frame.  The taurus db 41,44,454 all have same frame just different cylinder)barrel so its still cost effective but the 500 needing bask ally its on. Assem my line I also heard that's why s&w chose such a big frame so no one else would bother with making a new dragon frame for it. But really it would been cooler if the revived the 577 boxer now there's a real pistol round. Not like the 38 and 500 :) . Really though if I am good with my 44 im getting in february. Ill be wanting a 500 8 3/8 hi-viz model and have it coated black by Ssk.more gun calibers means more shooting
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2010, 06:50:19 PM »
"Now for all you guys that think there is no reason for the 500 mag, I say either you can't handle the 500 Mag, or you never shot one, and if you did, you did not like the recoil or the weight of the gun.. But I have shot well over 10,000 rounds out of my 500 mags, and I have taken several black bear, hogs and a bunch of deer with my 500 Mag. Just because you personally don't see how the 500 mag fits in the world of handgun hunting, does not make you the authority on handgun hunting.A

Redhawk1, are you a professional hunter or where do you get such game to shoot?  Where can one find hogs in the wild and not on game farms?  Just curious...BCB

"Lloyd, it is the little dogs that are barking the most, they can't play with the big dogs, so all they can do is bark...lol"

Yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip.  There I yipped like a little dog Redhawk1.  By the way, I have a SRH in 44 Magnum that I shoot the Lyman 429650 (320 grains) at 1345 fps--does that start to qualify me as nearly a BIG DOG?  Brass is inexpensive and purchased most anywhere and the molds are available.  Just wondering...

Remember guys, these are just opinions and we all have them.  But some of us are a little less serious with the shooting sport.  But then, I like Trail Boss and that IS the powder for us plinkers...BCB


No I am not a professional hunter, but I do travel all over to hunt.. If you want some wild hogs try Texas, Tennessee Florida and a bunch of other States..  I have hunted Texas, Colorado, Alaska, Florida, Tennessee, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, West Virginia, Maryland, Maine,  Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Canada. I may of missed a few.

Hay I am serious about my hunting, and I do have a lot of fun with it.. What gets me is the guys that have to knock others for there choices.. Other than that, it is all fun for me..

No you are a medium dog, step up to the 475 Linebaugh, and then I will consider you one of the big dogs...lol  ;D
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 07:27:31 PM »
Redhawk1. Me trying the .500 Mag will make it a must have caliber? Well, I have fired many .500 rounds. Again, I don't see the purpose. The question of the thread was why are there not more options for the .500. Because the caliber was born obsolete, that's why.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 08:23:15 PM »
Yeah but there have been calibers that fade out of public. And now useful again.  Look at the 45-70 and probably few other ones
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 11:31:31 PM »
I hunt with many differnt calibers. rifle and handgun. magnum and non magnum. I shoot probalby an average of 40 deer a year doing crop damage along with hogs bear and buffalo. Its all a matter of perspective. You say the 300 mag is good enough well i say its to much. Ive shot many whitetail with it and will continue to but would be the first to tell you that the 300 mag isnt needed and in all reality either is an 06. I will be the first to tell you that about any game animal in the world can be taken by a heavy cast load in a 44 mag. Does that mean that everytime i go hunting i want to use a 44 mag. NOPE! Ive taken many whitetails and a couple bear and pigs and a few buffalo with the 500s and 475s too. I cant see any downside to using them. they do no more meat damage then a 44 mag using hp ammo they kill with a bit more athourity and the recoil doesnt bother me. As a matter of fact ive watched my wife shoot my 500 with full power loads and shes still alive. Comparing what a 500 handgun does to an animal to what a high velocity mag rifle with the wrong bullet does is apples to oranges. Bottom line is there is advantages to larger caliber handguns and very few disadvantages for someone who can handle them. If everyone thought the same as you we would be hunting with 357s still as i can still remember when the 44 came out and the gun writters claimed it was to much for any handgunnner. Bottom line is anyone who shoots a 44 can master a big bore IF HE TAKES THE TIME TO MASTER ONE. Id say hands down I see the guys shooting them are better then average shots. WHY? because they shoot. I also see alot of guys with 44s that buy a couple boxes of ammo a year and cant even come close to master them.
No Lloyd, I have badmouthed rifle calibers with the same novelty value  (: The .30-06 and .300 Mag will take anything in NA. I once owned a .338 Win Mag. After plowing over everything leaving 12" exit holes I thought "Whats the point?" The '06 worked just fine. The only way to increase gun sales is to introduce new calibers. The .280 Rem was to counter the .270 Win......... Really? Its like the new .327 Mag. I guarantee you that if a .330 Mag came about it would make millions because it has all these "advantages". Nothing is broke so there is nothing to fix.  If you want to be on the range and say you have this caliber "look at me" or that caliber that's fine. But when it comes to the purpose of hunting value I don't see the point.  Frankly, the price I would have paid for gimmicks would be a nice down payment on deer rich acreage.....but that's just me.
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 11:47:29 PM »
bcp whats the differnce where he shoots hogs. Last time i heard it wasnt a sin or illegal to shoot game at a game ranch. I do it all the time. I take at least one buffalo every year on one. I dont proclaim to be a great white hunter doing it. I do it for the meat. Mohawk. I dont shoot at any public range and about the only one that regularly sees me shoot is my buddy AL and he has more of them then me. Im not out shooting or posting here to impress anyone. As to them being a fad youd best look at how many 475 and 500 linebaughs are sold every year. Theres a 3 year wait to even get one. Then look at how many 500 smiths and 460 smiths and 454s are sold every year. Hardly a passing fad. As to cost a 500 can be picked up in a bfr for under a grand and most people dont bat an eyelash at spending that much on chrome dodads for there truck or motorcyle. Guns are my hobby. About my only hobby right now I dont have a motorcyle, boat, or go golfing. I do shoot and shoot alot. As to cost to shoot if you cast your own its cheaper to shoot a 500 then it is to buy 44 mag ammo off the shelf by a long shot. They are not a big overkill on animals as i stated earlier there no more powerful then a 4570 with black powder level loads. Now other then you just dont like them ive seen no argument from any of you guys that is a legitimate reason for someone not owning one. I dont shoot them  everyday and dont hunt with them everytime but do when i want to. I also dont tell someone who is into black powder guns, old military guns or any other gun that i dont get into that what there doing is silly or run around the woods telling hunters there rifle is to big,  just as i dont tell someone that has differnt hunting ethics then mine that he is wrong as long as what hes doing is legal. marketing ploy? If it is im sure glad theres such a thing. If not owning guns and shooting would sure get boring. I thank God that the manufactures come out with cool new things every year. It would get kind of boring with only a black powder handgun and a black powder rifle to shoot
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 11:56:48 PM »
more rants. I will state this without reservation. 99 percent of the guys ive seen bad mouth big bore handguns dont have a clue as to the mechanics of how handguns kill. Most have never been a dedicated handgun hunter and even the ones that are handgun hunters are guys that maybe took a half a dozen deer with a handgun. Shooting a deer with a handgun doesnt make you a handgun hunter. Mastering a handgun does. Most would be better off sticking to subjects that they know like what golf clubs to buy.
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2010, 03:06:41 AM »
My opinion was not based on the effectiveness of the .500. I use a .38 Spl for deer and it works just fine. But until the .500 can do something the .454  or other calibers can't the demand won't be there. That's how gun manufacturers make money. I have used nothing but .38/.357 handguns to take my deer for years, or crossbow. Haven't used a rifle of any kind. So yes I am pretty atune to the mechanics of terminal ballistics relative to incapacitation of an animal from a handgun round. I even remember shooting the .50 Beowulf on an AR platform. Makes a nice 1/2" hole but nothing spectacular. And the .300 Mag will be your friend when that hump back is protecting her cubs, that's why I mentioned it. Whatever "Mastery of Handgun Skills" are that don't mean a thing to her. Don't even get me started on the .500 Mag "Bear Attack" kit guns. My point is, enjoy your .500 Mag. The poster questioned why so few options. It doesn't sell well enough. The .44 Mag etc. own that niche.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2010, 03:25:57 AM »
“No I am not a professional hunter, but I do travel all over to hunt.. If you want some wild hogs try Texas, Tennessee Florida and a bunch of other States..  I have hunted Texas, Colorado, Alaska, Florida, Tennessee, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, West Virginia, Maryland, Maine,  Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Canada. I may of missed a few.

Hay I am serious about my hunting, and I do have a lot of fun with it.. What gets me is the guys that have to knock others for there choices.. Other than that, it is all fun for me..

No you are a medium dog, step up to the 475 Linebaugh, and then I will consider you one of the big dogs...lol”



Well, professional hunter may have been too harsh of a term.  But it is obvious you do enjoy the hunting sports—not a problem with that.  The only state you and I have in common is Pennsylvania—I live there!...

I am ready to retire in a year of so and I guess I could hunt in other areas, but I seem to have just lost my desire to kill.  A few health issues and the value of life, regardless of which life, becomes apparent.  Yet, I do hunt deer in PA and I strictly use handguns.  I will again try to get into some small game hunting after retirement…

But one thing that I am glad of is the fact that I am a “medium” dog!  No sarcasm intended!  I think I will stay at that level also.  If the 44 Magnum was good enough for Elmer, by golly it is good enough for me!!!...

All you guys who are into the “Big Dog” handguns, more power (pun intended) to you.  Take no offense to some of our comments.  I don’t take offense to any or yours…

Have a good Holiday Season…

BCB

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2010, 03:41:13 AM »
Wow Lloyd, be cool man—everything is groovy…

Just a few opinions thrown out there.  I didn’t take offense to your opinion of some topics.  We just disagree on some of them…

Sure, I probably haven’t mastered the handgun art, but I do shoot them quit a bit—and I certainly am not going to win any contests…

We all have our specialties in life, but that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss other issues in a hope to learning more about them…

And I agree, I don’t want to shoot black powder only stuff either.  But I do think we have reached or nearly reached the maximum power in prudent and useful handgun productions.  The 100-yard dash will be run only so fast—eventually the speed will be achieved.  Maybe that is the case with handguns?...

Have a good one…

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2010, 03:48:56 AM »
Redhawk1. Me trying the .500 Mag will make it a must have caliber? Well, I have fired many .500 rounds. Again, I don't see the purpose. The question of the thread was why are there not more options for the .500. Because the caliber was born obsolete, that's why.

Do you have any idea how many S&W 500 mags have been made and sold? I think you don't have a clue. . I have been dealing with the 500 Mag from the day it hit the market until now. There are so many people that use and hunt with the 500 mag. Sure not as many as the 44 Mag, but that is by there personal choice.

All of the big bore handguns from 454 Casull, 480 Ruger, 475 Linebaugh, 500 Linebaugh S&W 460 Mag, and 500 Mag are slower sellers over the other cartridges such as the 375 Mag, 45 Colt and 44 Mag. Some due to the pricing of the guns themselves, and some to the amount of recoil people are comfortable with. Nothing to do with if the rounds are good or not.

The reason for not a lot of options of other gun makers out there, is nothing but a money issue. They cannot compete with S&W on the quality of the S&W guns. Not many people bought the Taurus because of the lack of quality, and horrible trigger pull, Ruger did not get into the 500 Mag due to having to make a totally new frame, and once again having to compete with the S&W quality.  Magnum Research was able to jump right in, because they already had a big enough frame and cylinder to handle the 500 Mag, it was just taking the 45-70 cylinders and re-chambering them to the 500 mag, and putting a .500 caliber barrel on the gun. Not many custom gun makers did the 500 mag either, due to the lack of big enough frames to handle the length of the 500 Mag. One would have to have a manufacturing licence to make a frame to accommodate such a large cylinder.

As for the 500 Mag starting as an obsolete round, I say you are wrong!  Do you know how many people said that about the 44 Mag, 454 Casull and many other cartridges that are still out there?
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2010, 03:57:09 AM »
I agree BCB. Just to add: Nothing more fulfilling than putting a 158gr bullet through the lungs at 960 fps and collecting your game. And not having to have the latest and greatest to do that. 1899 was a good year. I don't knock what other folks use, I personally would not use it or invest anything into it. And honestly I preferred the recoil of a .500 than the climb of a Mac-9 at 1,100 rpm.

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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2010, 04:07:11 AM »
“No I am not a professional hunter, but I do travel all over to hunt.. If you want some wild hogs try Texas, Tennessee Florida and a bunch of other States..  I have hunted Texas, Colorado, Alaska, Florida, Tennessee, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, West Virginia, Maryland, Maine,  Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Canada. I may of missed a few.

Hay I am serious about my hunting, and I do have a lot of fun with it.. What gets me is the guys that have to knock others for there choices.. Other than that, it is all fun for me..

No you are a medium dog, step up to the 475 Linebaugh, and then I will consider you one of the big dogs...lol”



Well, professional hunter may have been too harsh of a term.  But it is obvious you do enjoy the hunting sports—not a problem with that.  The only state you and I have in common is Pennsylvania—I live there!...

I am ready to retire in a year of so and I guess I could hunt in other areas, but I seem to have just lost my desire to kill.  A few health issues and the value of life, regardless of which life, becomes apparent.  Yet, I do hunt deer in PA and I strictly use handguns.  I will again try to get into some small game hunting after retirement…

But one thing that I am glad of is the fact that I am a “medium” dog!  No sarcasm intended!  I think I will stay at that level also.  If the 44 Magnum was good enough for Elmer, by golly it is good enough for me!!!...

All you guys who are into the “Big Dog” handguns, more power (pun intended) to you.  Take no offense to some of our comments.  I don’t take offense to any or yours…

Have a good Holiday Season…

BCB


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Not one thing wrong with the 44 Mag, I used one for many years of handgun hunting. I killed quit a few animals with it. I just choose to make bigger holes, and moved up. Like I said, I used the 357 Mag for my first few years of handgun hunting. I love my 45 Colts, 475 Linebaugh's and 500 mags. Just a personal preference I guess. Nothing wrong with being a medium dog, it is not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog..lol ;D  One of my hunting buddies will only shoot his 44 Mag, he does not like the recoil of my 475 Linebaugh or 500 mag and refuses to shoot them. I respect his reason of not liking the recoil and leave it at that. I also have a few buddies just a crazy about the 500 mag and that is all they like to shoot when handgun hunting.

At least we can have different views, and still have good discussion, that is what it is really about. Have a Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Re: Why so few choices for a 500 mag?
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2010, 04:22:19 AM »
Have a Merry Christmas guys. I know we disagree, and that's fine. I respect every one of ya'll. As we are kind of a family on the board.  But...... stepping up to a larger caliber? Stepping up should be toward marksmanship and placing the bullet where it goes.....right? i.e.- If I can put a .44 there then a .357 should work fine. I guess we have a different version of stepping up. The .500 will sell slowly as an exotic. Will never reach the sales of dual purpose. Thus will not be offered in mass quantities. And multiple manufacturers will be spotty at best.