Obama Administration: The Most Corrupt Ever.

[Cabin4]

The Obama administration moved unilaterally without Congressional approval to stiffen EPA regs. Under the banner of "global warming", they are going to violate process and because they simply don’t want or care to follow our constitution and take this before congress with proposed legislation. Once again Obama proves he could care less about our constitution. It’s simply a piece of paper in the way as far as he and his administration are concerned.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101225/ap_on_re_us/us_epa_greenhouse_gases;_ylt=AikivAWHhXU5asxQ46hBKEus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNyZ2U5c3FjBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjI1L3VzX2VwYV9ncmVlbmhvdXNlX2dhc2VzBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDNARwb3MDMQRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2VwYW1vdmluZ3VuaQ--

Another example of how this is the most partisan and non pragmatic president of our time.

[Graybeard]

The only administration more corrupt than the current one will be the next one. That is the trend these days each new prez seems to out do all previous ones in corruption and in trying to toss away the Constitution.

Until the public rises up in arms and stops them the folks in DC will just keep pushing until nothing is left and freedom and liberty in America will make soviet Russia and China look like paradise in comparison.

[Brett]

"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!"

[torpedoman]

Can't make up my mind if they are corrupt, stupid,or over educated with no real world work experience. Whatever they are they need to go real quick and in my opinion tried for treason for not upholding their oath of office.

[briarpatch]

Its not for you torpeoman, Its not for the people, follow the money.
 Billions to be made by the right group and they have given the order. The clown must follow. Anyway it can.

[subdjoe]

(modified quote)

Can't make up my mind if they are

a) corrupt,

b) stupid,or 

c) over educated 

d) with no real world work experience.

I'll take e) all of the above.  And add in blindly doctrinaire and self righteous.

[Junior1942]

Nope, not currupt. Just trying to do what they think is best for the average American, not the average American billionaire.

[gypsyman]

My vote is for all of the following:
A) eliteist, I'm smarter than you, and know what's good for you!!
B) over-educated idiot,no common sense,no real world work experience!!
C) my master tells me what to do!!
D) follow the money!!
--you can mix and match any of the above in whatever particular order, depending on the situation at hand. gypsyman

[magooch]

Oh come on, it's so much simpler and easier to believe that the Obamanation and company are just trying to protect us from those mean, evil billionaires.

[Junior1942]

Oh come on, it's so much simpler and easier to believe that the Obamanation and company are just trying to protect us from those mean, evil billionaires.

They're trying to rescue us from what those billionaires caused after they were given free rein by GW Bush and Company.  You do remember that the financial collapse happened under GW Bush's command, don't you?

[jimster]

They're trying to rescue us from what those billionaires caused after they were given free rein by GW Bush and Company.  You do remember that the financial collapse happened under GW Bush's command, don't you?

Maybe you could fill me in, and list each piece of legislation (if any) or any specific regulation or de-regulation that happened under Bush....it would be interesting.
I am aware of some Freddie and Fannie changes (been going on for a long time before Bush)...since those were run by our government, I would think it was not the wealthy that caused that to crash, it was your government.  Goes back way before Bush, will go on way after if we don't stop it.

As long as you have the idea that the wealthy are the root of your problems, your in for a long hard ride partner.  Remember...people invested...that's always been a gamble, it's a personal decision.  While we do need some financial regulatons, I would be more inclined to think the government itself is the root of most all our problems, not the wealthy.  What I have seen over the years is government getting in the way and causing most all the problems over many years, Bush included, but remember, it goes way back before that, and Bush only signed what the DEMS put on his desk.  As I remember it, it was the Dems that crashed Fannie and Freddie...this was run by our government, with government officials holding high offices there.  Republicans did not help, or stop any of it...another worthless bunch that sat around and melted into the Dem party as one big blob of corruption.

A few billionaires are not your problem, they never were, they never will be...unless you make all the wealthy go away. Then you'll be in a hole you ain't climbing out of...ever.
Cause there IS no other money than capitialism...period.  My advice would be to make yourself a millionare, or billionare or real wealthy...if you can't...get a job under one of them. If you look to government, to make things right, you'll have nothing, which is what a lot of people have now.

billionaires caused after they were given free rein

Billionaires will always have free rein...if you try to take what they have they will leave...you can't stop people with money from doing what they want, you won't be able to take it either, if they were smart enough to build a huge enterprise, they are plenty smart enough to keep it...just not HERE.  People best figure out where money comes from pretty quick, it's not the government, or any legislation they pass.  Obviously, after all the regulations and laws they have passed over many years, we should be able to see that by now, unless your stuck in one of the "parties"....in which case you'll be blind.  

[magooch]

I seem to remember that it was the Dumocrat Congress that protected Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac from reform and it was those two entities that allowed banks to make unwise loans that they were able to pawn off on those agencies.  Remember the "Banking Queen" and the other half of the Kennedy sandwich that assured us that all was well with Fanny and Freddy?

It surely was the Bush administration that was convinced that the whole financial system was about to crash and they had to do something, but I don't remember Obama doing, or saying anything accept going along with the plan.  The Bush administration hit the panic button, but the Obama bunch opened the flood gate.  

I don't mean to be all that critical of most of the rescue of the financial problems, because I don't understand it all and it does seem to have worked for better, or worse.  At least the world didn't come to an end yet.  It's what happens from here on out that is going to tell the story and blaming Bush ain't going to get it done.  Obama gets the blame, or the credit, because he is sitting in the hot seat at the moment.

[Cabin4]

Nope, not currupt. Just trying to do what they think is best for the average American, not the average American billionaire.

Well, I'm not sure what subjects your reading. But this one will do nothing but make the billionaires more rich. So if I were you, I'd do some level setting on who's going to get rich off the fake global warming bs.

We have a constitution in this country and the president is not above it and he can't just usurp it because he thinks he's right. Obama and his administration are criminals.

[billy_56081]

Oh come on, it's so much simpler and easier to believe that the Obamanation and company are just trying to protect us from those mean, evil billionaires.

They're trying to rescue us from what those billionaires caused after they were given free rein by GW Bush and Company.  You do remember that the financial collapse happened under GW Bush's command, don't you?

Under W the DOW Jones hit its ALL TIME RECRORD HIGH, didn't you pull your money out and put it in fixed interest then? I did! It must be those darn billionaires who caused you to befinancially ignorant.

Junior, here is a big financial secret, now get ready, BUY LOW SELL HIGH!

[teamnelson]

Nope, not currupt. Just trying to do what they think is best for the average American, not the average American billionaire.

Some facts: there are only a few hundred American billionaires, many of the most visible are Obama supporters. Not a single policy change under this administration will hurt them; all of the changes put together will in fact increase their power.

Also, doing what you think is best for the people is noble ONLY if it's legal, ethical, moral. Radically expanding the executive powers beyond all precedent is none of those three. And I don't know anyone who can genuinely say that life is better for them because of his noble ideals.

[Cabin4]

Markets go up and down. Over any 8 year period there will be ups & downs created by events outside government influence. I focus on the policies that the administration pushes for, not necessarily the financial market performance unless the markets are specifically reacting to a policy, posture or legislation advanced. The fact is, the markets have specifically reacted to the polices of this administration/congress in many cases. They have taken over defacto control of the markets in many respects and areas. The results are horrible and the people paying the price are not billionaires. Its the middle class.

[Junior1942]

From Wikipedia: "Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

I suggest changing it to: Denial is a Republican defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.

[Pat/Rick]

 Don't know which has been, which is, or which will be in the future. pretty much what has been demonstrated is both parties have been, both parties are, and both parties will continue to be so in the future.

demicans/republicrats, different train. same destination. Thinking one party will be the salvation over the other one is just plain silly.

[Cabin4]

Our country is in a disaster and this administration and its policies are making things worse. This is the most corrupt administration with the most disregard for our constitution. Someone's quoting the meaning of the word denial as if this is an answer for the deepening mess and this administrations continued poor policies & actions. The only denial going on around here are those that think this administrations actions are the correct course or compliant with our constitution. You can blame the republicans all you want but the fact is both parties are terrible and proof of this is in the White House right now.

[Junior1942]

.....The only denial going on around here are those that think this administrations actions are the correct course or compliant with our constitution.

The bailout BS started with GWB and finished with Obama.  The entire Chrysler bailout happened under GWB.  How in heck can you guys blame the mess on Obama?

You can blame the republicans all you want but the fact is both parties are terrible and proof of this is in the White House right now.

The financial disaster started under Republican leadership, i.e., GWB was president from beginning to near the end.  Obama inherited the mess, so, again, how can you blame it on him?

[gypsyman]

I can blame it on him real easy. Your right, Bush started the bailouts, the big O added jet fuel to the fire. Old saying, If your in a hole, quit digging. W started out with a shovel, O has graduated to an earth mover, and created a hole several generations can't fill. Plus the fact, he's got the nicest bunch of friends that he liked to hang around with. If Al Capone came back to life, and became his 'bro, that would be an improvement over some of the company he's kept in the last 15-20 years. gypsyman

[Junior1942]

I doubt I'll be around to see it, but I believe this entire financial meltdown will happen again circa 2022.  (1) It'll take the unions about that long to kill GM and Chrysler again; and (2) a Republican takeover of the White House and Congress in 2012 will mean deregulation of Wall Street.  When that happens, greed takes over and it's deja-vu all over again.

[teamnelson]

I doubt I'll be around to see it, but I believe this entire financial meltdown will happen again circa 2022.  (1) It'll take the unions about that long to kill GM and Chrysler again; and (2) a Republican takeover of the White House and Congress in 2012 will mean deregulation of Wall Street.  When that happens, greed takes over and it's deja-vu all over again.

So greed is not in effect now? Talk about denial ...

[Pat/Rick]

+1 TN.

[Hooker]

Nope, not currupt. Just trying to do what they think is best for the average American, not the average American billionaire.

Dangit Junior Give some warning next time so i can get my hip boots on.

Pat

[billy_56081]

Junior, how about you answer this question. Who was President of the United States of America when the DOW Jones hit an ALL TIME RECORD HIGH?

Got the guts to answer?

[subdjoe]

Oh come on, it's so much simpler and easier to believe that the Obamanation and company are just trying to protect us from those mean, evil billionaires.

They're trying to rescue us from what those billionaires caused after they were given free rein by GW Bush and Company.  You do remember that the financial collapse happened under GW Bush's command, don't you?

You mean under the Deem (sic) controlled Congress?  And what billionaires?  Soros/  Oprah?  Gates?  Jobs?  Or maybe the semi-billionaires like Kerry and Edwards?  Thsoe billionaires?

[Cabin4]

.....The only denial going on around here are those that think this administrations actions are the correct course or compliant with our constitution.

The bailout BS started with GWB and finished with Obama.  The entire Chrysler bailout happened under GWB.  How in heck can you guys blame the mess on Obama?

You can blame the republicans all you want but the fact is both parties are terrible and proof of this is in the White House right now.

The financial disaster started under Republican leadership, i.e., GWB was president from beginning to near the end.  Obama inherited the mess, so, again, how can you blame it on him?

You’re the only one in denial here Junior:: This recent financial crisis stems from a collapse in the home mortgage market. There were regulatory changes that Clinton pushed for back in the late 90’s. The goal was to make it easier for people to afford homes and procure the needed loans. Clinton started this and it was further propagated by Bush during his terms in office. In 2006 when congress changed over to democrat controlled, they further pushed for regulatory relaxation on home loans. The government regulators themselves were warning congress and the Fed Back that the home loan market was going to collapse if nothing was done. Congress ignored the pleas from regulators to change the process, so it continued. Look at the congressional record on this. They replayed the hearing from 2006 when the regulators testified of the pending doom in 2006.

My opinion is there is enough blame to throw them all in jail (Ds & Rs). Yet you believe the democrats are innocent. Give me a break. You’re in denial. Pull your head out of your back side and see what’s really happening in Washington.

[nw_hunter]

Don't know which has been, which is, or which will be in the future. pretty much what has been demonstrated is both parties have been, both parties are, and both parties will continue to be so in the future.

demicans/republicrats, different train. same destination. Thinking one party will be the salvation over the other one is just plain silly.

I have another word in mind, but SILLY will work!

[SHOOTALL]

Over the last few terms Americans have started to see that laws passed cause a negative effect on disposable income. As of late laws and govt. has had a negative effect on all income ( only look at those out of work or lost a home) . I think what we are seeing is a last ditch effort to soicalize govt . But the jig is up and WE THE PEOPLE ARE mad.