195 yard kill

[buckshooter]

On December 5th shotgun season in Ohio, my Dad and I were hunting a 400 hundred acre farm and spotted five deer bedded down from 200 yards off the road.  I have the USH with the Nikon BDC 200 reticule scope and is highly accurate out to 200 yards with Hornady's SST'S.  My Dad has a Remington 870 with a slug scope and is highly accurate out to 100 yards.   

We got up to an embankment and were talking about what to do.  My Dad was the spotter for me because his gun isn't as good as mine.  I got setup the prone position which was is like shooting off the bench.  The first deer I shot, I double lunged it and didn't even go 20 yards.  Then I reloaded and shot at another deer and ended up hitting the tree it was standing by. 

We decided to charge at the deer to make sure that they wouldn't run off the property and my Dad dropped a deer in it's tracks at 100 yards.  After about dozen shots between us, we ended up killing two deer and had a complete blast.  The deer I shot at and killed was at 195 yards which for me is the farthest deer I have ever taken with my USH.       

[chillydigits]

Perhaps in the excitement of the charge, part of your story got left out? But call me crazy I thought you had to fill out and attach your temp deer tag and or landowners permit to the killed deer before you could start shooting more deer on the same day in Ohio... ...

[WNY_Whitetailer]

195 yards is a poke...Nice job on the double lung.

[Markus]

A dozen shots and two deer?

[bobg]

 A dozen shots. .  Sounds like a lot of wasted lead being thrown around to me.

[billy_56081]

Sounds like fun to me. One shot one kill is boring.

[spikehorn]

195 yard shot is impressive with a slug gun. I personally like one shot one kill. I shot a 9 point the last Saturday of ML season here in N.Y. only to find out it was full of infection and none of the meat was any good because someone was just slinging slugs at its butt as it was running away earlier in the season.

[Daman]

A dozen shots. .  Sounds like a lot of wasted lead being thrown around to me.

I will come to a defense here, I have shot a lot of deer and hogs. Some went bang flop, others went a few yards and fell, still others -- especially when shot with a shotgun or with my 35 remington ate up slugs like there was no tomorrow. I am of the school of thought that if I shoot a deer and he ain't laying there I keep shooting til he is or I am out of bullets. Now maybe it does waste some meat, but I don't have to hunt up many deer. I also do not advocate doing this in any unsafe way.

I just wanted to give some credence to buckshooter. I commend you for putting those deer on down!

PS. Buckshooter ---- you ain't always gotta tell the whole truth!

Daman

[Vic49]

A dozen shots. .  Sounds like a lot of wasted lead being thrown around to me.

X2      "After about dozen shots between us, we ended up killing two deer and had a complete blast". Kid sometimes some things are better off left unsaid!!

[PHATINJUN]

Sounds like a couple of road huntin slobs to me.  Ain't nothing better to let the deer calm down than 2 guys charging with shotguns blazing Kurt

[kf4ocv]

Charging Deer?  After about dozen shots between us, we ended up killing two deer and had a complete blast.   Sounds like a couple of teenagers.  My Dad would have beat me to death if i'd acted like that in the woods.  You dont go spraying lead like it was Lysol.  Where is your sportsmanship?   What abt gun safety?  This is EXACTLY what the antihuntin crowd wants to hear.  Go take a safety course and learn you local regulations.

[SHOOTALL]

All I want to know is did ya'll fix bayonets for the charge ? A 200 yard shot at a still deer is one thing at a moving or just alerted deer is not a high % shot .

[Spanky]

Sounds like a couple of road huntin slobs to me.  Ain't nothing better to let the deer calm down than 2 guys charging with shotguns blazing Kurt

Charging Deer?  After about dozen shots between us, we ended up killing two deer and had a complete blast.   Sounds like a couple of teenagers.  My Dad would have beat me to death if i'd acted like that in the woods.  You dont go spraying lead like it was Lysol.  Where is your sportsmanship?   What abt gun safety?  This is EXACTLY what the antihuntin crowd wants to hear.  Go take a safety course and learn you local regulations.

My thoughts exactly.
I wonder how many of the deer went off wounded after the "firefight"



Spanky

[bobg]

  Doesn't look like they have a requirement for hunter safety courses where he is from.
  You are right kf4ocv. My Dad would have done the same as yours.     

[Spanky]

My Dad would have whooped my butt and when he was done my Granddad would have whooped it too!!



Spanky

[spikehorn]

We were setting up the first drive of the day and jumped 8 deer in a patch of pines 5 of use shot 6 times and had 4 deer on the ground and 2 of those shots were to put deer down that were not dead yet and you better believe that we checked and double checked that there were no other wounded deer that needed to tracked down. WE OWE IT TO THE DEER TO KILL THEM AS QUICKLY AND HUMANELY AS POSSIBLE!

[Spanky]

Sounds like a good deer drive Spike.
Back when my Granddad was alive we used to put on drives with 10 or 12 of us. Half of the group was pushers and half were posted on watch. It was always exciting to be posted on watch when deer started coming through.
Granddad is gone now and there's only a few of us left hunting the area so the hunting has changed.



Spanky

[buckshooter]

That's why they call it hunting and not killing!  Believe me, all the shots had a solid backdrop because of the hillside they were bedded against.  As for safety, the only thing at risk out there were the deer, NOT other hunters!  Some of you may need to remember that you're out there KILLING deer.  I think you may have a little too much "love for the animal" going on.  If it was always "one shot one kill" then they would give us rifles, not the crappy slug guns to kill em with!  

[Vic49]

That's why they call it hunting and not killing!  Believe me, all the shots had a solid backdrop because of the hillside they were bedded against.  As for safety, the only thing at risk out there were the deer, NOT other hunters!  Some of you may need to remember that you're out there KILLING deer.  I think you may have a little too much "love for the animal" going on.  If it was always "one shot one kill" then they would give us rifles, not the crappy slug guns to kill em with!  

 ::)You might want to quit while your ahead.

[Spanky]

It ain't the slug guns that's the problem here.... it's the guys using them.   As far as too much "love for the animal", it ain't love it's respect. The animal deserves respect and a humane kill. If you can't do it right then don't do it at all.



Spanky

[SHOOTALL]

We have a club range with a 40 foot back stop . At the bottom of the back stop was several metal targets and several metal target holders . All with in 5 foot of base . We had to remove all metal as some bullets hit the metal and got over the backstop. Was that hillside all dirt with no rocks ?
Can I assume that hunting means missing ? Forgive me but hunting is tracking , finding , getting as close as possible , learning the habits of game and deciding wheather or not you can kill the animal. To decide you must show good judgement. At the point you decide to kill the critter and shoot you passed from hunting to killing.
Only thing at risk were more than deer if in fact a charge was attempted . Two guys running and shooting could have turned sour if one or both tripped.
And yes we are out killing deer , well we hope to. I venture to guess most take high percentage shots they know they can make not mounting a charge , running wild azz slinging lead , just a guess on my part mind you.
I wish "they" gave me my slug gun but "they" didn't I paid for it , set it up, praticed with it and know how close to get and how to hunt with it . Most would. Blaming poor woods craft , poor shooting or bad judgement on "they" is pure BS. If anyone buys and hunts with a crappy slug gun its their choice as you can go else where to hunt or invest in good equipment.

The guy made a good shot on the first deer , pushed his luck on the second and IMHO showed poor judgement on the next 10 shots.

When you charge and sling lead its slaughter not hunting , well it is if you hit the targets if not its just a irresponsible trot .

[SHOOTALL]

Maybe it should be noted also a slug travles farther and in most cases can do more damage after strikilng a hard surface than a rifle or handgun bullet .

[Lon371]

 The deer were 200 yards off the road. First shot was 198 yards? That would be road side hunting(poaching) Charged over the berm(screaming like indians) shooting at deer with a 100 yard Rem 870? If it is only accurate at 100 then why shoot from a distance near 200? Putting on a charge with a single shot?


 Sounds like when me and the boys get the paintball guns out, NOT hunting!

Lonny

[buckshooter]

Okay, after rereading my own post, I need to clarify some things. 

While the deer were 200 yards off the road, we had to work our way through the woods about 50 yards to an embankment - NOT road hunting!  There may not have been a dozen shots, sorry for a little exaggeration on my part. 

Also, my 2nd shot was at the SAME deer, NOT another deer.  Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. 

Finally, when we charged, it entailed running at the deer, setting up at about 100 yards, and taking accurate well-placed shots - for my Dad.  My deer was finally down for the count at this point with no further need for shooting.  He shot at and dropped his deer with one well-placed shot, and then a kill shot from a few yards away when we arrived at the spot where they fell.

Sorry to disappoint some of you, but there was no hollering like indians or shooting while running - THAT would be really dumb, as I learned in our hunter education course and my Dad would NEVER allow. 

On the other hand, there was woodsmanship, skilled shooting, and quick-thinking hunting that took place.  For some of you, just because we didn't sit on our asses in a tree stand, eating candy bars and getting fat, AND actually ran and worked hard to get our deer, there seems to be a problem?  Maybe you should work out a little more and leave the REAL hunting to the guys who are in better physical condition.

[mspaci]

I dont know, I pulled the trigger 3 times & had 3 dead deer. Get them closer, make beter shots, save money on ammo, no long bloodtrails, better all around, =more fun to me. Do what you want, this is my opinion. Mike

[Vic49]

Yep, takes a lot of woodsmenship to spot from the road and chase em across a field. You and your Dad must be in excellent physical condition. I prefer to set up in a stand and let them come to me, unaware of my presence and when i do take one they are not all pumped full of adrenalin from being chased.

[SHOOTALL]

We let the dogs charge ( don't let um tote guns when they do it ) and chase them to us. 

[kf4ocv]

worked hard to get our deer.    do you reload?  LOL   Sorry couldn't resist that one.     as for sitting on our _ _ _,  graybeard runs a CLEAN site here so dont push your luck.  and no i dont eat while hunting. 

[Lon371]

Okay, after rereading my own post, I need to clarify some things.  

While the deer were 200 yards off the road, we had to work our way through the woods about 50 yards to an embankment - NOT road hunting!  There may not have been a dozen shots, sorry for a little exaggeration on my part.  

Also, my 2nd shot was at the SAME deer, NOT another deer.  Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.  

Finally, when we charged, it entailed running at the deer, setting up at about 100 yards, and taking accurate well-placed shots - for my Dad.  My deer was finally down for the count at this point with no further need for shooting.  He shot at and dropped his deer with one well-placed shot, and then a kill shot from a few yards away when we arrived at the spot where they fell.

Sorry to disappoint some of you, but there was no hollering like indians or shooting while running - THAT would be really dumb, as I learned in our hunter education course and my Dad would NEVER allow.  

On the other hand, there was woodsmanship, skilled shooting, and quick-thinking hunting that took place.  For some of you, just because we didn't sit on our xxxxxx in a tree stand, eating candy bars and getting fat, AND actually ran and worked hard to get our deer, there seems to be a problem?  Maybe you should work out a little more and leave the REAL hunting to the guys who are in better physical condition.

That does sound a little more realistic. As far as woodsmanship, see how close you can get. It is very cool when you set against a tree on my butt and deer walks with in 15 FEET. Or setting in a ladders stand and a little fawn rubs against it, with no care in the world. Or a squirrel climbs on a stand with you trying to figure out what you are.
By the way my fat butt is 5'8" tall and 178lbs thank you!
Lonny

[chillydigits]

The 2nd shot was at the same deer??? yet your post clearly states you shot at another deer but hit a tree?? If your going to go the revisionist history route perhaps it would be wise to change the original post to reflect your new twist on the events....