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The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« on: December 27, 2010, 02:53:30 PM »
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20101227/ts_yblog_theticket/2010-polls-obama-most-admired-man-palin-top-religious-newsmaker




I reckon they  polled all the godless nations, mental wards, and pantywetters they could find. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 01:17:07 AM »
He really is very popular. Most people aren't right leaning, and don't see the connection between policy and the economy. Plenty of others remember that the republicans deservedly got kicked out just two years ago.

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 07:03:58 AM »
Until somebody gets in office that CAN see the connection between policy and the economy,it will remain the same. So far, no change.  demicans/republicrats same same.

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 07:09:30 AM »
He really is very popular. Most people aren't right leaning, and don't see the connection between policy and the economy. Plenty of others remember that the republicans deservedly got kicked out just two years ago.
True , shame really we have allowed out home training and public education to turn out so many who cannot understand what effects their day to day life. Dumbing down of America is alive and working .
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 03:03:15 AM »
Until somebody gets in office that CAN see the connection between policy and the economy,it will remain the same. So far, no change.  demicans/republicrats same same.
Wrong.  A big economic turnaround is taking place.

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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 05:12:21 AM »
Until somebody gets in office that CAN see the connection between policy and the economy,it will remain the same. So far, no change.  demicans/republicrats same same.
Wrong.  A big economic turnaround is taking place.

Yea getting worst all the time
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Re: The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 07:06:30 AM »
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Wrong.  A big economic turnaround is taking place.



junior. YEP, but not in the way you think. Maybe by getting rid of the dem leaches in congress we will be able to undo a lot of the damage the dems have done. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 07:10:39 AM »
Powderman:

I wish I was as optimistic as you. I just don't trust any of them. I am hopeful that the republican congress will help, but I will have to see solid big results before giving them credit for anything.

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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 07:44:31 AM »
Until somebody gets in office that CAN see the connection between policy and the economy,it will remain the same. So far, no change.  demicans/republicrats same same.
Wrong.  A big economic turnaround is taking place.

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 08:14:28 AM »
The turnaround last election was a hopeful sign, but I am afraid that no politicians will be able to pull us out of this mess.  The seeds were planted years ago. Too many people in the cart, nobody left pulling. When unions and city and state politicians started promising crazy pension plans for their employees they knew that they were making promises that no one would ever be able to keep. 

I'm still betting that the Fed will start up the presses and it won't be long till we'll be hauling our money to the store in wheelbarrows. But be careful to keep track of it while you stand in Soviet Union style lines though because someone may dump out all that worthless cash and steal your wheelbarrow

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 11:17:58 AM »
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Wrong.  A big economic turnaround is taking place.

What you reading Junior? LOL!  Ya...it's a regular Reagan economy coming at us... ;D

When it turns around...I'll let you know Junior, that means I'll be spending money...and the business I work for will stop kicking people out, hey, they don't even have to hire, just stop kicking them out.

The American people will let the government know when the economy is picking up...not the other way around. The government lies. Here in Michigan unemplyment just shot up again....they do not believe you. You also need to get ready for more woes....the debt itself, and the interest on it is a huge weight, not to mention they have not stopped spending more than they take in.

If not for the stim package, and the government motors thing, and printing money like idiots, we would have been much better of now...but we have to eat the stupidy that they have done the last couple of years yet.  By that time, if health care is not de-funded, you have yet another problem looming. I'm sure your dems will want to tax us out of that.

Hang on to your hat Junior...the ride ain't over yet.  I'll let you know when it's better. You can stop reading whatever it is your reading...it's a waste of time.

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 11:34:10 AM »
Junior1942,

The O came into office with employment at approximately 7.8% of the work force.  It is now 9.8% in two years.  This number does not include the people who are working PT jobs instead of FT jobs or have stopped looking.  If you include those categories, the unemploymemt/underemployment rate is approximately 18%.  Nearly 1 in 5 Americans is in an unfavorable economic situation.   And Obama says the economy is strong?   That statement is so full of crap he better use a different  mouthwash.

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Re: The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 11:42:16 AM »
......  Nearly 1 in 5 Americans is in an unfavorable economic situation.   And Obama says the economy is strong?   That statement is so full of crap he better use a different  mouthwash.

ST762


Where did Obama say the economy is strong?  It isn't.  But it is on its way up from the Republican hole it was in.

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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 11:43:12 AM »
Sorry bad link...have to copy it

Date: 12/20/2010

Michigan's seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate fell four-tenths of a percentage point in November, bringing the state's jobless rate down to 12.4 percent. According to some experts, such decreases are mostly due to the state's residents either leaving the state to find a job or stopping their job search.

Michigan's unemployment rate has been slowly and steadily falling for three months - it was lower in November 2010 than the 14.4 percent level witnessed in November of last year, according to the Associated Press.

Though such decreases in unemployment may appear to be an improvement, this may not be the case in Michigan's labor market.

The employment rate has reportedly held steady since August, and Michigan experienced several months of labor force reductions since May of this year.

"Michigan's jobless rate fell in November without a significant increase in employment levels. Instead, the jobless rate drop was primarily due to fewer state residents in the labor force seeking jobs," said Rick Waclawek, director of the department's Bureau of Labor Market Information and Strategic Initiatives.

While unemployment in the state decreased by 22,000, the number of workers reporting that they had jobs increased by only 2,000, according to the Michigan Department of Energy, Labor & Economic Growth. This may indicate that a large portion of the decrease in unemployment is driven by people dropping out of the labor force, according to Detroit News.

While certain economists have claimed that Michigan's economy is recovering based on evidence of increased auto sales and a resurgence of consumer confidence, the recovery is still slow, according to the news source. The number of payroll jobs reported in Michigan decreased by a full 19,000 in the past 12 months. Industries like finance, leisure, information and construction all experienced job losses during the year. Manufacturing, health, education and professional services sectors experienced job creation, the Detroit Free Press reports.


 People are plum giving up in this state, they just stop looking and jump on the government programs, and wouldn't you know it...they report it as a wee bit decline in unemployement...when in fact, more people just ain't workin at all.  A lot of them have left the state here...enough to give us less seats for representation, but that ain't all bad, cause who would want a state who spent themselves broke and taxed out the jobs with a lot of representation anyway? Be best if we had zero seats I think?


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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 10:53:18 AM »

[/quote]Where did Obama say the economy is strong?  It isn't.  But it is on its way up from the Republican hole it was in.
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This is funny , no really funny . Open your eyes  both parties had a hand in it ! Do you believe the bail out is cost effective ?
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2011, 12:14:12 PM »
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This is funny , no really funny . Open your eyes  both parties had a hand in it ! Do you believe the bail out is cost effective ?



NO, big unions were the benefactors, not the general public. Where are all the jobs bo was going to create, uhhhhhh, besides all his govt appointed czars and other gimme jobs. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2011, 12:48:26 PM »
Where did Obama say the economy is strong?  It isn't.  But it is on its way up from the Republican hole it was in.

Junior, which metric do you look at to make this claim? DOW? Unemployment? National Debt? Budget Deficit? Price of Gold? Value of Dollar? What is your benchmark to determine improvement?

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2011, 02:20:16 AM »
Where did Obama say the economy is strong?  It isn't.  But it is on its way up from the Republican hole it was in.

Junior, which metric do you look at to make this claim? DOW? Unemployment? National Debt? Budget Deficit? Price of Gold? Value of Dollar? What is your benchmark to determine improvement?

Mahalo, Chaps
I read newspapers.  The stock market is up, unemployment is headed down, cars are selling again, the Christmas retail business was great, etc., etc.  People seem to have lost their fear of spending, and they don't seem to fear losing their jobs.  In short, things are improving over the financial morass of December 2008 and January 2009. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2011, 06:18:09 AM »
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I read newspapers.  The stock market is up, unemployment is headed down, cars are selling again, the Christmas retail business was great, etc., etc.  People seem to have lost their fear of spending, and they don't seem to fear losing their jobs.  In short, things are improving over the financial morass of December 2008 and January 2009. 


I would not believe too much of what is spoon fed to us through the papers...
In Michigan...the only ones left working are not spending anything, people not only fear spending here (if you have a job yet) but also figure the job may not last long. We lost 19,000 payroll jobs this last November...unemployement has went down...but only because of a combination of people leaving the state, or giving up looking for jobs all together, tthey simply dropped out of the work force.

Michigan is not alone here...they can tell you anything they want...but the people know better and know what is real.

Stock Market is up...I'm many many thousands in the hole from what it would have been had I not lost so much for so long, here is another example of someone telling me the market is good, at the same time I had to cancel my retirement. LOL! Old guys that still have a job will keep it...can't make room for the youngsters, lost too much.
Bottom line is, we will never see that money again...and of course, it can crash at anytime again...always a gamble.

The people will let you know when things are better...no propaganda needed from the media. 

P.S...we spent less this year on holiday season than ever before...I have a feeling the state felt that.
The articles we are reading says:
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2010 Retail Store Closings: U.S. Retailers Downsizing or Going Out of Business
Retail Chains Closing or Liquidating Sites - Complete, Updated, and Ongoing List
and they list gobs of these.
I have to say I believe it...for the past couple of years all the strip malls have been closed and borded up in this area...

The real truth of economy is out there to look at...houses foreclosed, retails businesses borded up, people moving out of the state, and things pretty much closing down all over.

One good note....ammo companies, gun companies and such have done well. Along with places like Brownells.
Not all is lost.



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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2011, 11:16:31 AM »
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One good note....ammo companies, gun companies and such have done well. Along with places like Brownells.




YEP. The obamination has been a shot in the arm for those businesses. But he's plotting against gun owners as we speak. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2011, 05:08:10 PM »
Junior,

Your posts are so silly.  You must really like your wild barry kool-aid.

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2011, 06:32:07 PM »
I read papers too, and the stock market is on an up tic with a predicted mid year peak. Unemployment is slowing, but joblessness is holding ... There aren't new jobs in the private sector; businesses have trimmed and they're waiting to see what the future holds. A mid year peak may trigger a new round of lay offs ... at least that's what the papers say. They also say this holiday spending season was down from years previous. With fewer options for consumers as there are fewer businesses in operation. When the 1st quarter books are settled and tax season hits, we may see some more small businesses packing up. Oh and job growth in public sector (I.e. government) is growing in some places while shrinking in others at a higher rate so by POM 12 we may see 10% of govt employees out of work. The deficit ceiling will have to move to cover fed programs, or programs will have to be slashed. At least that's what the papers say.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 01:59:33 AM »
I read papers too, and the stock market is on an up tic with a predicted mid year peak. Unemployment is slowing, but joblessness is holding ... There aren't new jobs in the private sector; businesses have trimmed and they're waiting to see what the future holds. A mid year peak may trigger a new round of lay offs ... at least that's what the papers say. They also say this holiday spending season was down from years previous. With fewer options for consumers as there are fewer businesses in operation. When the 1st quarter books are settled and tax season hits, we may see some more small businesses packing up. Oh and job growth in public sector (I.e. government) is growing in some places while shrinking in others at a higher rate so by POM 12 we may see 10% of govt employees out of work. The deficit ceiling will have to move to cover fed programs, or programs will have to be slashed. At least that's what the papers say.
An old song lyric comes to mind: "You gotta accentuate the negative, eliminate the positive..."  There's a lot of positives now compare to December 2008.

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 04:14:19 AM »
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The deficit ceiling will have to move to cover fed programs, or programs will have to be slashed. At least that's what the papers say.

Let's hope they don't raise the debt ceiling...government spending is a sickness that must be delt with.
Sure wish Dave Ramsey was in charge of the money, need someone who can use a calculator and common sense.

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 06:08:47 AM »
An old song lyric comes to mind: "You gotta accentuate the negative, eliminate the positive..."  There's a lot of positives now compare to December 2008.
So I shouldn't read the bad news in the paper? If I focus on the positive all will be well? What role does realism play in this for you?

That comes as no comfort to me; you are already drawing a pension I believe you've stated before. Mine is on the chopping block, my side investments are looking grim because of the current administrations policies, and things like SS, Medicare, et al. can only be sustained if you take more from me, the working man. Forgive me if whistling a happy tune doesn't bring me comfort.
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 06:29:25 AM »
An old song lyric comes to mind: "You gotta accentuate the negative, eliminate the positive..."  There's a lot of positives now compare to December 2008.
So I shouldn't read the bad news in the paper? If I focus on the positive all will be well? What role does realism play in this for you?........
"Realism" was the almost shut down state of this country as GWB left office.  You can thank Obama for keeping the doors open......

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 06:55:43 AM »
junior. The doors your obamination have opend are to homosexuals, illegal criminals, China, Russia, all the godless nations, muslim prayer in the whitehouse, cancelling natl day of prayer, eliminating God in several speeches, a disasterous hc bill, tying the hands of our military, giving himself and congress big raises while cancelling raises to the disabled and ss folks, and to trillions of $ in debt. Yep you got a real winner in the obamination. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Re: The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2011, 06:58:27 AM »
Pman, TN, it is still refreshing to see there are individuals who can see the true nature of the Obamination.

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Re: The most admired in 2010??, the abomination.
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2011, 07:16:24 AM »
There's a line in "Amazing Grace" about being blind and seeing again.  You guys should listen to it.

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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2011, 07:23:56 AM »
You first, Junior1942.
We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

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