Author Topic: Where is the outrage? (Read 1378 times)

lakota · « **on:** December 28, 2010, 06:09:27 AM »

Where is the outrage that was present over high gas prices when Bush was president? Gas has gone up to over $3.25 for regular around here and not a peep from the news on it. I remember seeing report after report on the news during Bush blaming him for the gas prices and talking about poor old people having to choose between food and perscription drugs or gas for their car.

So...if high gas prices were Bush's fault during his presidency then it only stands to reason that they are Obama's fault now so why arent any of the main stream media outlets assigning him the blame now?

Or is it STILL Bush's fault?

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:14:07 AM »

I agree. This is the begining of inflation as I predicted. If the Feds print too much money to pay debt. Then either you have inflation or taxes must go up. As no one wants their taxes to go up, then inflation will kick in. Groceries have already been going up if you guys haven't noticed, not gasoline. Hang on, Carter years are coming back.

powderman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:32:28 AM »

WE saw gas at $3.36 on the way to Ill this past week. POWDERMAN.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:49:37 AM »

But guys think , if it was not for the democrats prices would be 4 dollars a gal. they saved us . Well bet they want us to believe that BS .

dukkillr · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:02:13 AM »

Paid $2.85 an hour ago... now I feel lucky...

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:04:09 AM »

We still have it at $2.79 at a few stations , might be junk yard recovered gas not sure.

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:08:42 AM »

Yea, and there's no daily casualty report for the Afghan war either.

I remember hearing what goods are factored into the inflation rate and remember thinking that they are not measuring the things I actually buy, like gas and groceries.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:10:42 AM »

Do you really expect them to cloud the issue with facts ?

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:26:44 AM »

news reports it when bush is in office - No news reports about it when bo is in office = propoganda.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:28:28 AM »

Quote from: Pat/Rick on December 28, 2010, 07:26:44 AM

news reports it when bush is in office - No news reports about it when bo is in office = propoganda.

well of course it is

nw_hunter · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:17:55 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on December 28, 2010, 07:28:28 AM

Quote from: Pat/Rick on December 28, 2010, 07:26:44 AM
news reports it when bush is in office - No news reports about it when bo is in office = propoganda.

well of course it is

"Economy" ......Bush years (Bad)
"Ecomony".......Obama Years (Worse)
"Ecomony".......Next Prez. (Even worse)
"Ecomony".......Next (If there is a next) Economy?......What's an Economy? And we will still debate the Demo vs Rep. thing! DAMN we are so easy for the Corporate world to control. "HO HUM"

blind ear · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:17:39 AM »

NW_Hunter, +1 ear

Graybeard · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:48:29 PM »

I picked up my new Toyota Tundra from the shop that sprayed in a Line-X bedliner today and the first gas station I stopped at had no gas. They had none two days ago when we took it up either.

The next station I went to a Chevron had gas and it was $2.89. I think they are generally a little higher than the first one I stopped at but they at least had gas. Me thinks things might be heading back the way they were a few years back.

There is no shortage of gas and the price per barrel of oil isn't up that high so it's an artificial price gouging that's going on same as last time.

spikehorn · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:57:42 PM »

It went over $4.00 a gallon here in the north east when bush was in office!

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:20:46 PM »

On Fox News tonight; a prognosticator of such things who has a good track record says Gasoline will hit $5 per gal by 2012. Ity will be a culmination of the govt printing so much money and Obama courting the envirowhackos.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #15 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:20:14 AM »

I've told you guys we are going to have high inflation because the Feds are pumping money into the economy. Have you priced groceries since last year? Prices on everything are up. Oil prices have been going up lately, but it is not being reported by the Obamamedia. China isn't buying any more of our debt, so Feds are still dumping money and this is going to lead to inflation. Hello Jimmy Carter years again. The first 6 year of Bush were great years, economy was booming. In 2008 the Dems took over Congress. Things started falling apart when Dodd and Franks started running the banking committees. The only thing I don't like Bush about is the Patriot Act and getting involved in Iraq when we could have bombed them into submission.

mouse · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:31:28 AM »

Please don't forget the oil spill that happened in the gulf. Sooner or later (maybe now), we will have to pay for that. It was bad PR to raise prices at the time of the event.

bilmac · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:41:09 AM »

I still think that it was $4 gas that convinced lots of people that Bush was bad. Everybody round here is pretty conservative and Bush was well liked. But as soon as gas went through the roof then was when the fair weather "conservatives" started complaining about Bush did this wrong and he did that wrong. I didn't agree with everything he did, but he was sure way way better than the alternative.

myronman3 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:41:44 AM »

with obama taking over general motors, then the healthcare system, the oil companies have been sitting back and keeping a low profile. then come the november elections, and now the sharks smell blood in the water. obama is about to get put on a leash, and the oil companies know it. he will not be able to take them over like he did g.m. and heathcare. so now they are brave, and wanting to make up for lost time. add inflation in there, and, it aint looking good for you and i.

gypsyman · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:45:36 AM »

All the oil around here comes from Canada. Plenty of it. I believe it to be, that now, on the world market, the powers to be, arn't pricing barrels in U.S. dollars. It's in EURO's, because they know that the U.S. dollar is going into the crapper. And, the EURO, is already there, and can't get much worse, and our money has a long way to fall.
Obama and the rest of the socialist's, will get what they want. Price of gas will go up to the point, people's driving habits will change, and not drive as much.More public transportation!! The greene's will get what they want, less so called pollution.Helps to keep global warming down. Cost more for the farmer, food will become more expensive, we'll all eat less, and become healthier, keeps the food nazis's happy. 'Course, now that I'm thinking about it, that means gas for my boat will higher, walleye fishing on Erie will be much more expensive, now I'm getting pi**ed.

gypsyman

powderman · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:48:35 AM »

Gas just down the road jumped to $3.16, in town it's all $3.10. Glad I don't have to drive every day anymore. POWDERMAN.

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2010, 03:09:31 AM »

so i ll be riding my land rider bike..the only problem is i hav nt seen it advertised on tv lately..
probably out of buisiness by now..guess i ll have to make the parts if any break..slim
ps my wife karry saw me show some interest in the ad on t.v...the next week the brown truck brought it..
i had to be careful what i looked at too long ,when karry was with me..she meant for her man to have what he wanted..now i just wish for one hour with her again..she can t have that delivered..but its gonna happen someday.

MGMorden · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2010, 07:27:48 AM »

Still $2.95 here as of yesterday. I think most of it though is just people being used to high prices. It stinks with them where they are, but realistically, how long can you complain about the price being "high" when it's been at this level for years? At this point ~$3 per gallon is the new "normal" price.

ihookem · « **Reply #23 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:24:46 PM »

In June 2008 Diesel was 4.76 gal. Just then we were told by the dems "worst times since the great depression.
In Dec. 2010 diesel is 3.31 gal Now the dems say it's cause the economy is getting better. Hard to believe they get away with it. Diesel was 4.76 gal. cause the economy was rolling. Now it's going up cause the dollars is shrinking. I believe 4.76 gal slowed the economy down but if we go to 5.00 for gas and 5.50 diesel we might see an all out crash. Our economy is too fragile now for 5.50 for diesel. Debt, inflation, taxes, food, electric, clothes and insurance is much higher now. Savings, wages and hours per week are down. My wife and I are going on a goods spending spree. On the list is clothes. ( Cotton has doubled in 6 months) Just what we need. Jeans, t-shirts, socks etc.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2010, 03:28:48 PM »

When folks making minimum wage have to spend half their pay check to put fuel in their tanks in order to get back and forth to work is it any wonder why so many opt for Welfare? Heck, they live better on Welfare than those trying to work a 40 hour week! I know many are simply lazy but there's an increasing number of folks that simply couldn't afford to work! Mean while the oil companies brag about record earnings! In my opinion they are a major cause of our economy being in such a mess. Folks can't afford to work, and even those that do, can't afford to spend money on things not an absolute neccesity so the economy is poor? Well DUH!!!!!

billy_56081 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2010, 03:42:04 PM »

It went to 3.05 here today. I'm glad I have a company vehicle. But what scares me is the cost of groceries.

Old Fart · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2010, 04:33:10 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on December 30, 2010, 03:42:04 PM

But what scares me is the cost of groceries.

This.
The trucking companies will pass it on to consumers.

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:38:20 AM »

Quote from: Spirithawk on December 30, 2010, 03:28:48 PM

When folks making minimum wage have to spend half their pay check to put fuel in their tanks in order to get back and forth to work is it any wonder why so many opt for Welfare? Heck, they live better on Welfare than those trying to work a 40 hour week! I know many are simply lazy but there's an increasing number of folks that simply couldn't afford to work! Mean while the oil companies brag about record earnings! In my opinion they are a major cause of our economy being in such a mess. Folks can't afford to work, and even those that do, can't afford to spend money on things not an absolute neccesity so the economy is poor? Well DUH!!!!!

Government can do very few jobs competently..except for defense and highways...and those only if the politicians keep their noses (and greedy hands) out of it !
Here in NY State, one of those 'blue state' Utopias which is about to go belly up...besides a credit card and a 'gasoline card', welfare weeds also get cell phones ! People working their buns off for minimum are insulted every day by the the vote-buying kings & queens in Albany (our state cap), who squander the taxes they wring from those who do work.
Common sense tells us that forcefully raising the minimum wage is fools play, that burger joint on the corner will just fire the worker and buy an automatic burger flipper ! Progressives refuse to admit what common sense tells us...LET the business owner make money..then it trickles down to his/her employees ! DUH !
There may be more job money around for our present minimum wage folks, if the state didn't overpay it's public employee union members such extravagant wages and benefits.
Those public employee unions are sucking us dry !

351 power · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:59:10 AM »

i think graybeard hit it right. not the govt totally but the fuel corp. i live 2hrs from a big refinery that was going to double production. lots of the fuel is exported to the us. mysteriously didn't expand. we can drive across the border and buy the fuel cheaper than here. and every move they make is about market control not supply and demand. those fuel companies are coordinated to maximize profits on a commodity that is as much a necessity as milk for kids

JBlk · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:37:09 AM »

The reason that we don't hear anything in the news about the prices is because of who controls the news media.I am sure you would be surprised if you check on the ownership of the news media in your area.When our representives in all of their wisdom abolished the trust and monopoly laws they in effect gave the large corporations and companies the license to steal.All of the small independ business were forced to close by the larger companies via large price cuts by those large companies.Once you take care of your competition or buy up all of the news outlets you are free to set your own prices or report what you percieve as newsworthy.How many times have you seen the banks in your area change ownership in the last few years?Most of the corporations now are more powerful than our government,and they have the money to lobby for any bill that want to become the law of the land.