Author Topic: Handis SUCK.. Fur down.. Barely (Read 2499 times)

Quigley · « **on:** December 31, 2010, 03:30:09 AM »

Went out this morning with my FoxPro and my .223 Bull barrel Handie. Set up on field and called for 10 minutes. Noticed movement to my left at 50y. Picked up a dog yote in my scope and squeezed of the shot. Turned the nasty dog a flip. I noticed him trying to get up. So I break down my Handi to reload and CRAP...DANGIT...DADDERNIT... shell casing is stuck. I spent the next 5 minutes poking, prying, cutting sticks trying to get the casing out. I look at the dog and hes got to his feet and just sitting there very hurt. He starts to wander off. I finally picked out the casing with my Benchmade and CRAP... I chipped the blade on my knife. I reloaded and could easily track the dog in the snow. I followed him 75 yards into a thicket. I picked him up in my scope on the other side and squeezed off the shot. Head shot...dead dog. This casing stuck also. This has never happened in my Handi. I hate it now. This wont do. Its very accurate and Ive yet to miss a dog with it, but I guess it will be retired for range play. Im in the market for a good bolt action .223. Can someone post any links to stuck casing threads? I know this is common in Handies.

petemi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2010, 03:40:09 AM »

Thats why all my Handis are EXTRACTOR.

Pete

zackyholdem · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2010, 03:44:37 AM »

try polishing the chamber to lessen friction

Ron 1 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:03:35 AM »

i would be willing to buy it

i dont have a handi in .223 yet
rw

Quigley · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:04:07 AM »

Quote from: petemi on December 31, 2010, 03:40:09 AM

Thats why all my Handis are EXTRACTOR.

Pete

Im just a dumb redneck. What do you mean- extractor?

Quigley · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:06:39 AM »

Quote from: Ron 1 on December 31, 2010, 04:03:35 AM

i would be willing to buy it i dont have a handi in .223 yet
rw

Naa...Ill fix it. It shoots great.

petemi · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:10:11 AM »

That makes us two dumb rednecks. The ejector pops the spent case totally out of the chamber. The extractor backs it out only about a quarter of an inch so you can pick it out with your fingers. The cases seldom or ever stick. All the new Handi Barrels are extractor. Tim has a method to make them extract longer, to be removed easier.

Pete

Quigley · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:17:15 AM »

Quote from: petemi on December 31, 2010, 04:10:11 AM

That makes us two dumb rednecks. The ejector pops the spent case totally out of the chamber. The extractor backs it out only about a quarter of an inch so you can pick it out with your fingers. The cases seldom or ever stick. All the new Handi Barrels are extractor. Tim has a method to make them extract longer, to be removed easier.

Pete

My barrel has the extractor. It usually pops the shell out on the ground. But not today.

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:20:45 AM »

If it kicks them out on the ground, you have the ejector, not extractor. DP

manatee1947 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:33:11 AM »

dirty or greasy cases, dirty chamber, or hot loads can be problematic also.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:41:44 AM »

IF YOUR HANDI with your hands,

in the FAQ's is a extractor pseudo conversion from your extractor.

I like ejectors in my shotguns and don't mind them in my rim fires, but detest them in a CF rifle. I have converted all mine to extractor.

CW

Shu · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:59:39 AM »

I always carry something to get a stuck case out when I have my handi. I have a 45-70 and did have a couple cases stick. Mine is an ejector, I don't mind it at all. When I open the action the case pops out and hits me in the belly if I don't catch it. The spent case will be at my feet. Fortunately I have a belly made for just this.

I use the 45-70 for everything but birds and prairie dogs.

Extractor or ejector handi's are some great machines.

Hit or Miss · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2010, 05:58:14 AM »

If this is the first time this has happened I'd check brass and loads right off of the bat! Sounds like a load problem to me.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2010, 06:13:39 AM »

Other than loads too hot, the most common cause for sticking brass is not wiping oil or solvent out of the chamber before loading, see the Handi Basics 101. I use alcohol on a patched bore mop on a section of cleaning rod to clean the chamber before I load to insure it's not a problem.

Tim

Fred M · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2010, 06:26:27 AM »

I have two ejector Handi's on which I installed a smal notch, into which you can put a small screw driver under the rim. This will remove a stuck case in a jiffy. You find a write up on my web site, how to do it.

I get the ought stuck case during gopher shooting where I fire as much as a 100 rounds. Powder blow back gets into the chamber and sticks the case.
A clean up is in order.

Quigley · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2010, 06:53:36 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on December 31, 2010, 06:13:39 AM

Other than loads too hot, the most common cause for sticking brass is not wiping oil or solvent out of the chamber before loading, see the Handi Basics 101. I use alcohol on a patched bore mop on a section of cleaning rod to clean the chamber before I load to insure it's not a problem.

Tim

Dang it... You know I bet this is the problem. My handi has been stored and I left a coating of Breakfree in the barrel and chamber. I forgot to clean it before I went out this morning. I noticed some oil on the breech face when I got home. Ill give it a good cleaning. Ive always shot Hornady V-Max shells and never had a problem.

Ron 1 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2010, 07:07:45 AM »

SEE HANDIS DONT SUCK

good luck with it
rw

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2010, 09:08:26 AM »

FredM's chamber slot is still the best thing since sliced bread.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2010, 09:17:16 AM »

Lots of info in the FAQs on ejectors including Fred's manual ejector notch, I've only modified my 35 Remington barrel, never had to use it, but have since converted it to a modified factory style extractor so sticking brass is a non-issue even with hot loads or a fouled chamber.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,26264.msg525466.html#msg525466

Quigley · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2010, 10:03:32 AM »

Quote from: Ron 1 on December 31, 2010, 07:07:45 AM

SEE HANDIS DONT SUCK
good luck with it
rw

Yea Im sorry Handis, I like you again.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2010, 10:36:21 AM »

My 223 and 243 barrels have the notch cut in them. I carry a small screwdriver in one of the loops on the stock shell carrier. Works great.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2010, 10:42:52 AM »

I keep mine clean and dry when I use them and never have any problems. I am more of a hunter than a bench rest guy so I much prefer ejectors over the cheaper to produce extractors and do not have problems with my ejector barrels....<><....

Dinny · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2010, 11:00:38 AM »

Store your Handi muzzle down in the safe. That way any excess oil runs down the barrel and not back into the receiver and chamber.

That's an old trick I learned from some ol' timer on here.

Thanks, dinny

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2010, 11:08:55 AM »

Now I wonder which ol'timer that was!!

Tim

petemi · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2010, 11:19:21 AM »

Happy New Year, Old Timer, and the same to all of you here. Dinny, stay safe for another year. You're cherished and appreciated. Thank you for all you do. Yours has got to be a tough job. I don't think I could handle it.

Pete

trotterlg · « **Reply #25 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:06:23 PM »

Quigley · « **Reply #26 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:52:35 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on December 31, 2010, 10:36:21 AM

My 223 and 243 barrels have the notch cut in them. I carry a small screwdriver in one of the loops on the stock shell carrier. Works great.

Now thats a good idea.

Quigley · « **Reply #27 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Dinny on December 31, 2010, 11:00:38 AM

Store your Handi muzzle down in the safe. That way any excess oil runs down the barrel and not back into the receiver and chamber. That's an old trick I learned from some ol' timer on here.

Thanks, dinny

I should know that. I store my muzzleloaders muzzle down. From now on my Handis are muzzle down.

petemi · « **Reply #28 on:** December 31, 2010, 01:05:10 PM »

I'm sorry, but the extractor eliminates all the problems.....cutting grooves, digging them out with screw drivers, carrying a rod, etc. etc. I don't use ejectors because of all the above, plus I don't enjoy crawling around in snow, dirt, manure, mud, or weeds looking for cases. I'll stick with my extractors.

Pete

Quigley · « **Reply #29 on:** December 31, 2010, 01:35:20 PM »

Quote from: petemi on December 31, 2010, 01:05:10 PM

I'm sorry, but the extractor eliminates all the problems.....cutting grooves, digging them out with screw drivers, carrying a rod, etc. etc. I don't use ejectors because of all the above, plus I don't enjoy crawling around in snow, dirt, manure, mud, or weeds looking for cases. I'll stick with my extractors.

Pete

You know I kinda agree with ya. If I have to carry a dang rod I might as well carry my muzzleloader.