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DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« on: December 31, 2010, 05:41:57 AM »
George picked up some steel for me at a yard sale.  George and I have a pretty good idea what to make with this.  Since we have on idea, I was thinking that maybe you guys might have another better idea.  George and I had something in mind, but we won't say to poison the idea pool.

So lay your mark one eye ball on this and tell us what you see.

 

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 06:04:59 AM »
     If that thick walled tube is 6.375" or 6. 500" you could build a coffee can mortar; looks like you have the trunnion material too.  A Kiss Mortar on steriods!  If it's smaller than that, then there are lots of vegetable product cans that love to go skyward too.  The link below is real handy for finding cans that fit your tube.  I take a copy of it along with me when I go to the scrap yard.

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 08:07:26 AM »
Tracy I already have the steel for a coffee can mortar.

Your can dimension link has been added to the the reference sticky...that's a good one!  Thanks a bunch for that

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 12:37:08 PM »
Oh gee will-lickers, it looks like I posted the wrong picture...   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 02:46:15 PM »
oooohhhhh  what a pity it didnt fit

well what to do then ??
grind all bowling balls to a smaller diameter , or  ??    ;D

wait , didnt you have some kind of magic machine in your workshop ??   ::)
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 03:10:56 PM »
It won't fit my machine, but I know where there are some that are big enough!

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2010, 03:15:43 PM »
It's about 8.4" in diameter.  Needs to be about 8.625" minimum.  He's going to do it once instead of for each ball as I have done.

Actually, his design needs it that way so there will be material to retain the breech plug.

By the way, that inside diameter is not ±.001" so it will need truing first and then boring to ball plus windage diameter.
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 03:32:51 PM »
Now all I need is a piece of 9 inch long 9 inch round 1018.

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 05:25:58 PM »
That piece is about 157 pounds (+ 109 + 249 = 515) plus the weight of the mount.  Hope you have a crane.   ;D

Or maybe set it up with automobile tires so you can tow it on the highway.  ;D
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2011, 06:24:24 PM »
The method I am going to use to build this Mortar is the technique I used to build K.I.S.S. Golfball Mortar.

I am in the process of building a pop can caliber mortar in this technique.  Tracy can correct me if wrong, but I believe when  Mike and Tracy built the  Monstre Mortar the used a similar technique.

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2011, 04:18:14 PM »
Just an update...

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2011, 08:19:02 PM »
oh yeah, the pictures...


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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2011, 01:15:58 AM »
that will be a neat little thing  ;D
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2011, 03:48:32 AM »
I have some measuring to do...

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2011, 08:36:41 AM »
DD you have enough mortars...... expand your horizons.... howy about a howitzer?
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2011, 09:57:57 AM »
too short for a howie
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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2011, 03:21:38 PM »
This will be a be the final evolution of the  K.I.S.S. series of Cannons. It will be for  Bowling balls.

Stay tuned Howitzers are in my future.

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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2011, 05:11:04 PM »
The method I am going to use to build this Mortar is the technique I used to build K.I.S.S. Golfball Mortar.

I am in the process of building a pop can caliber mortar in this technique.  Tracy can correct me if wrong, but I believe when  Mike and Tracy built the  Monstre Mortar the used a similar technique. 


      Do you really mean that I can correct you THIS time??  This is a rare opportunity; I better not blow it!  Ha......only kidding.  Actually, your design is definitely stronger, especially when higher pressures are encountered during the firing of heavy projectiles in smaller caliber mortars.  Our design, you will notice, in the marker board drawing below, does not have a mechanical locking feature built in to the design via mating shaped tube and plug.  We used, instead a 1" thick base plate which supports both and 20 grade 8,  1/2"-20 bolts which tie everything together.  The bolts don't have to handle any of the pressure generated during firing.  They are there ONLY to hold everything together on the rebound after recoil drives all of the assy. into the wood of the mortar bed slightly.

    So, Double D, while it's close to the same, it's not exactly the same as you can see by the drawing below which is very close to the produced design.  There were 4 or 5 "redline" features or dimensions which included in the 'C' revision of this drawing which we failed to photograph.  The Cosmetic shrould dia. went from 23 to 25 inches, the delrin obturation ring was eliminated and a .250" x .250" notch on the face of the Chamber Piece at the periphery was added for high temp, silicone  rubber gasket goo.  Another ring of 8,  1/2"-20 bolts was added to the tube near the bottom.  The Chamber Piece was changed from 1018 to A-36 and the Tube material was changed from D.O.M. 1026 to Seamless, A-36 precisely machined to fit the Chamber Piece with a small, .003" gap all-around.

We are starting another thread called "A discussion of Mortar Designs, Materials, Methods, Strengths and Weaknesses" ,so as not to hijack this interesting one.  We are looking forward to lots of in-process photos Double D.  Spend some good money on that crane that George suggested, save your back!

Mike and Tracy




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Re: DD's Winter 2011- 2012 project- Ideas
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2011, 05:35:39 PM »


      Do you really mean that I can correct you THIS time??   
 


'bout time....