Author Topic: brass with primers (Read 410 times)

josebd · « **on:** December 15, 2003, 12:36:03 PM »

im trying to figure out a way to full length size these ,but the decapping pin wont come out,rcbs die,.223, with live primers,could i partially resize,if so how do you set up the die? tried just neck resizing,rifle dont like it?

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2003, 01:21:46 PM »

Run them through the gun, pop the primers and start all over again.

Thomas Krupinski · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2003, 01:39:05 PM »

Jose,

I just finished doing just that to a bunch that I had messed up.

I pulled the bullets, raised the decapping pin rod as far as it would go up inside the die. Then resize using the normal procedure. It works just fine.

On the ones that I did I was using a lube die with the decapping pin inside that die, but the sizing die had the expanding ball without the pin in that die. That expanding ball is raised to the length that even if the pin was in the ball it would not push out the primer.

there were two types of decapping pins used in the RCBS die sets. The old ones will pull out of the rod and are held in by a friction fit over some fingers on the rod and held down by a cap over the pin. The newer type has a knob on the end of the pin and that keeps it from pulling out when the cap is loosened.

Donna · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2003, 02:46:36 PM »

Hello Jose,

I know this is going to stir some tail feathers. :roll:

There is a chance that a primer will go off when pushing it out with the de-priming pin of a resizing die but I have to tell you that I have removed primers this way :eek: while resizing more than 20,000 primed cases and I have not had one go off on me, I do ware leather gloves and eye protection just incase. Primers are made to be set-off from an impact and it takes quite an impact. Primers are not intended to go off on a gentle smashing, while loading military brass I have smashed several hundred in my life time and the only ones that have fired are the ones I wanted to go off. I have heard of primers going off on seating they but I have never known any one personally that had them go off on nor have they ever gone off on me. Just push them gently out and ware safety equipment, just incase but if one does go off it will be inside the sizing die. I think I'm safe never had any accidents. Now for the disclaimer do this at your own risk. :roll:

Donna :wink:

myronman3 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2003, 02:53:27 PM »

what is a box of primers? $2? ?2.50? is the risk of losing an eye (or a chewing by your wife) worth that? pop em off in your gun and start over.

josebd · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2003, 04:10:27 PM »

lololol ok,thanks yall,theres alot of nice people out there wanting to help.thanks again.

Thomas Krupinski · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2003, 05:10:22 PM »

If you raise or remove your decapping pin you have a snowball's chance in hell of a detonation when sizing. You have a greater chance for an accident from an accumulation of primer dust in you feed tube than you do sizing a primed case.

For what it's worth I have also deprimed many live primers with never any negative results. Also have reseated and used some of those decapped primers as well as shotshell 209 primers again and although did perform any controlled tests to tell any difference between them, but they all did go bang.

Now last weekend I did make a mistake and tried to squeeze a little extra time between squirting some lube into the lube die and stuck a .223 case in the sizing die. Had to drill that one out to use the stuck case remover. So with a shell holder on the case head and inserted backward into a single stage press, fired the primer with a large nail. Worked perfectly, no problems.

I know that primers are cheap, but not compared to what they used to cost. But the bigest thing I would be afraid with primers is the accumulation of the dust in the feed tube. So if you want to be prudent, keep the tubes clean.