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Offline ohiobenito

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17 cal cleaning
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:21:22 AM »
Hello all I recently picked up a 17hmr and had some questions about cleaning it.  Does anyone not clean it?  If you do clean the bore, how so?  I am at a loss finding a rod/brush or bore snake this small.  I don't believe in credit cards  ect so I don't mail order.  Might have to step up on this one.  Thanks a lot for your time and info

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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 07:33:21 AM »
I found a cleaning kit for a .177 pellet rifle and use it.

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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 08:05:40 AM »
Hoppies makes a bore snake for 17 hmr.
If you get a rod make sure it is a one piece. If you can clean from the breech, I find that if I use a patched wrapped nylon brush and PULL the rod through you will be less likely to bend it
Air rifle rods usually don't deal with the rifling too well
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 08:47:08 AM »
So far I am just using the pull through strig Bore Snake and it is working OK.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 11:18:16 AM »
I own only two bore snakes one a .410 and the other a 28 gauge. I can't pull either thru the bore of those shotguns so I'd darn sure not trust one in the tiny .171" bore of your rifle.

I use a rod made especially for the .17s and have a patch jag for it as well and use 7/8" patches. Midsouth shooter's Supply carries them and that's where mine came from. You can order via mail and send them a check. Call their toll free number to get the correct amount to send or be sure to send extra which they will refund to you.

I believe Bore Tech is the brand of mine but it's not near me so I can't be 100% sure of that. Dewey also makes them. Any gun shop can order a rod for you.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 12:40:47 PM »
Graybeard is on the mark here. There are many options available for 17 caliber rifles. Most cleaning info was developed from the 17 Remington centerfire which of course was much faster and had a much larger powder charge. I fired one round/cleaned for 10 rounds in two hmrs and one hm2. I found a slight bit of copper fouling in each which disappeared by the tenth cleaning. I now clean when accuracy starts to fall off. This varies because one is a custom barreled H&R and the other two are factory models. Rod, guide , brushes and jags for me as I am an old traditionalist. If done properly I haven't seen alot of harm in frequent cleaning. You may find that you rifle takes a bit of fouling to come back to it's accuracy potential after cleaning....or not! These are after all female in persuasion! Good shooting, Guy
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 06:18:30 PM »
I bought a one piece rod at the local Walmart for my 17 HMR. It is made by Winchester and only cost like $7.00 witch I think is a good deal. Dale
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 12:18:28 AM »
Quote from: Graybeard on January 06, 2011, 11:18:16 AM
...I own only two bore snakes one a .410 and the other a 28 gauge. I can't pull either thru the bore of those shotguns so I'd darn sure not trust one in the tiny .171" bore of your rifle...
GB - you have two of the hardest ones to pull. I can pull my .223 and .308 cal bore snakes easy, but on my 20 gauge, I have to have to tie the string off to the bench vise and pull the gun away. I think they get easier as they get smaller.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 10:39:24 AM »
thanks for your information fellas, I appreciate your time and responses.  I'll have to look around for a one piece cleaning rod.  seems like the way to go.


ben

If any of you have the marlin bolt rifle model 917  I found a very nice one-piece scopemount/ring set up I really recommend.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 10:55:14 AM »
I like the bore snakes for pistol calibers. I do have one for the 17 that I bought before I had a one piece rod, brushes and a Jag.

The snake is quick and efficient, but IMHO not a replacement for a proper good cleaning rod, jags and patches.


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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 12:25:42 PM »
I have boresnakes for all calibers/gauges. I take the proper size
snake with me to the range, ideal for a touchup when shooting
alot in one session. I use them on the 17M2 and 17 HMR more
often as accuracy falls off after a bit of shooting.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 12:35:27 PM »
Best of luck with the Boresnake in the .17 cals, read the Rimfire Central link, he ultimately ended up having the barrel replaced at Hoppes' expense.  :-\

Tim

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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 01:44:23 PM »
Quote from: cwlongshot on January 09, 2011, 10:55:14 AM
I like the bore snakes for pistol calibers. I do have one for the 17 that I bought before I had a one piece rod, brushes and a Jag.

The snake is quick and efficient, but IMHO not a replacement for a proper good cleaning rod, jags and patches.


CW
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I was just shooting the 17 so often that it did not matter.  it was getting 20 to 150 rounds a month in either hunting or range sessions.
Last cleaning was a whole lot of gun scrubber and the bore snake.  I guess I should take a look at it before i shoot it again.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 05:32:16 PM »
bore snake for 17 hmr
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 11:05:09 AM »
When I had my .177 cal. pellet guns and my 2 rifles in .17 HMR I used a pellet gun steel take down rod that was made in China.  It worked, but was a pain in the rear.  I spent the money and bought a nice J. Dewey made cleaning rod with the correct patches and the bore cleaning mops, I push through some Hoppes #9 soaked mops or patches, let it sit overnight, and then clean the next day.

Now that I no longer have anything in .177 I am trying to use the equipment for .22 rimfire.  I may get another pellet rifle in .177, so who knows? ::)

I sold the .17 HMR's as I don't hunt much, and the cost of the ammo was too high.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 10:03:29 AM »
I just picked up a hoppes cleaning rod, the only thing I don't like is the only tip it came with was a patch jag, and the thread on the rod are male, as apposed to everything else I got with female, so nothing I have will fit it.  But after doing some shooting this weekend i think it will stay dirty.  My first 5 rounds or so was all over the place,  after that it really tightened up.
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Re: 17 cal cleaning
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 07:18:32 AM »
I use Kleen Bore 17 Cal. rod, jags, mops and brushes when I clean.  Do not use an airgun rod or jag.  .172" vs .177" diameters.  I also use a bore guide.  At the range or on an extended field trip when I've put a lot of rounds down the bore I'll use a bore snake.  I have never had a single problem with a bore snake and I have one for each rifle caliber and shotgun gauge I own.  I highly recommend them.

The 17 HMR is not like a 22LR.  They need regular cleaning like a centerfire.  
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