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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2011, 03:07:51 PM »
Saddlebum: your map depicts archery targets, not that it really matters. Targeting states that have to be challenged in political elections is not tantamount to assassination of congresswomen and judges. The Left hates Palin and views her as a bona fide threat. She can energize conservatives like no one else can today and for that they attack her every chance they can. The AZ shooter was some type of skinhead radical who adhers to communist and nazi philosophy.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »
It's not MY map.
Sorry that the point I was making by posting it was lost on you.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2011, 03:58:22 PM »
I find this entire post bigoted, repulsive and stupid.  I've never heard any official or public figure on either the right or the left condone this type of senseless killing.  Sarah Palin certainly never has, nor has anyone else.  This young man obviously had a mental problem, and to blame his insanity on comments by anyone is ridiculous. 

I have strong feelings about some of the issues today, and like most people am perfectly happy to use the court of reason and the ballot box to express myself.  This is true I think of 99% of the people.  The tea party is not nor has ever been a party of violence.

Just because someone disagrees on either side does not warrant violence.

When people trump the cause of those who would try and make this the fault of an opposing party....they are CAUSING their own demise.  When they come for the republican guns and the conservative guns, do you think they will leave yours?

If so you are welcome to shoot yourself in the foot anytime you please.  I'll not stop you.  Just remember, those of us who own firearms are considered just like this insane young man by many today....regardless of party.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2011, 02:50:49 AM »
The local media here reported he was a big time dope smoker and pro marijuana use. Between that and his age{22} more than likely he is liberal. Tucson is crazy with liberals as is Flagstaff. Both are big university towns. Waiting to see the liberal media's spin on this one.
Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2011, 02:54:10 AM »
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2011, 03:08:24 AM »
The local media here reported he was a big time dope smoker and pro marijuana use. Between that and his age{22} more than likely he is liberal. Tucson is crazy with liberals as is Flagstaff. Both are big university towns. Waiting to see the liberal media's spin on this one.
Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

I don't know any on a personal basis really but here they tend to be libs. Most on the right here obey the law  ;)
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2011, 03:10:39 AM »
The local media here reported he was a big time dope smoker and pro marijuana use. Between that and his age{22} more than likely he is liberal. Tucson is crazy with liberals as is Flagstaff. Both are big university towns. Waiting to see the liberal media's spin on this one.
Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.
Strange , not saying your lying, but everyone I have ever known have been a dem. May be its demograhics , Cali. is well known for their liberalism and this is the state that pushs to legalize pot.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2011, 03:52:14 AM »
Every dope smoker I know is either a Liberal that doesn't know enough about the political process to be able to align him or herself with a political party, a Liberal Democrat, a Socialist or a Communist. Sounds like many different names for Democrat to me. Maybe the dope smokers you know fit that first group.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2011, 04:44:26 AM »
Just heard where some columnist is putting Beck in with Palin, and this guy is a right wing nut job. He's a nut job period. Gifford, from what I read and heard, was a blue dog dem., which I'm to understand, is a more conservative dem., than normal. Seems to me, if he was a right wing nut job, he'd tried for a more liberal politician. We all know that there are many more targets of opportunity out there. Just some left wing news media type's trying to get their 30 seconds of fame.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2011, 05:10:47 AM »
   
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Buckskin ~  Blaming Palin is beyond idiotic...


Sounds to me like they're grabbing for straws to build their case against the fear of her becoming the next President of the USA.  This may snowball in the days to come.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2011, 07:19:11 AM »
Good greif. You libs have a conspiracy theory for evrything. If it was REALLY an assassination attempt by a Republican against a Democrat, the shot wouldn't have been aimed at the brain. Too small of a target.
That really does seem to be the standard Republican response. Congrats.

I'm still waiting for the source of your information that the shooter was a "Republican". 

Are you sure he wasn't a Southern Democrat?  Maybe he was a Socialist Workers Party member?  Or a Neo Green Pro Weed member?  Or what if he was a rabid Purple Monster Raving Looney member?  All of these are real politica parties, BTW. 

Or wouldn't it be a shock if (gasp!) he wasn't a card-carrying member of any party?  Ya know, like the vast majority of Americans? 

Everything I've heard so far in various media reports, NYT, NPR, and on the cable news channels indicates that the shooter seemed to be in a worsening spiral of mental health problems and was possibly experiencing the onset of schizophrenia, which can often manifast itself first between the ages of 20-30.  Politics may have become a fixation for him, but I don't think one party or the other is to blame.

I know it's hard for some to accept, but there may be an explanation that's more complicatd than just blaming it all on Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin.

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2011, 07:35:00 AM »
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Now a Republican shot Giffords in the head. Coincidence?

No evidence....bring it up and turning it into something political makes one as low as you can get with no regard for anyone or anything. Obviously politics is more important to you than someone's life, and family. Or you would not have posted this at all. Opportunity must have over whelmed you.

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Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

Another silly post with nothing to do with anything, and certainly no evidence.  A brain dead post.  

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I find this entire post bigoted, repulsive and stupid.  I've never heard any official or public figure on either the right or the left condone this type of senseless killing.  Sarah Palin certainly never has, nor has anyone else.  This young man obviously had a mental problem, and to blame his insanity on comments by anyone is ridiculous.

This makes sense...this entire thread was only made political by one left wing guy that constantly does this, it's like fishin'.... with nothing much to say....I'm kind of surprised this thread lasted this long.

To make any of this into politics seems rather low and simple minded, with little regard for the people hurt.
How can anyone rate politics as more important than a tragedy, and use the tragedy as a stepping stone?



  


 


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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2011, 09:11:03 AM »
Yes, Sarah did target her.  For defeat not for assination.  Sarah Palin would be the first to say hang this assassion.  No one deserves to die over their political view, but congressional members have been shot before and will probably be shot again.  All it takes is one unstable nut in the crowd.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2011, 09:16:58 AM »
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Still waiting on proof the suspect is a republican ...

exactly.  the more i hear, the more it is looking like he is a liberal OR obilivous to the entire political process.   facts will come out in time. 

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2011, 09:51:21 AM »
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Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

>Another silly post with nothing to do with anything, and certainly no evidence.  A brain dead post.  

A fact isn't brain dead.  It's just a fact.  Most of the people in our little parish jail are dope smokin', cocaine sniffin', meth snortin', hard drinkin' white boys who vote right wing when they vote.


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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2011, 10:46:06 AM »
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2011, 12:00:39 PM »
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Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

>Another silly post with nothing to do with anything, and certainly no evidence.  A brain dead post.  

A fact isn't brain dead.  It's just a fact.  Most of the people in our little parish jail are dope smokin', cocaine sniffin', meth snortin', hard drinkin' white boys who vote right wing when they vote.


How would you know they are using and how would you know how they vote?
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2011, 12:01:50 PM »
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Still waiting on proof the suspect is a republican ...

exactly.  the more i hear, the more it is looking like he is a liberal OR obilivous to the entire political process.   facts will come out in time. 

Liberals dont need proof-they say it and the fact that they say it is all it needs to be true like global warming.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2011, 01:12:02 PM »
The euphanism/metaphore made him do it??  Period. Sure it wasn't "Taxi Driver" and Jodee Foster?  Maybe he found ted bundy's "tunnel"?  Maybe it was obamas campaign quote......."if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun".

  Maybe this guy is just a freakin nutbar huh? Sure seems alot coming out to support that.

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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2011, 01:19:11 PM »
Good greif. You libs have a conspiracy theory for evrything. If it was REALLY an assassination attempt by a Republican against a Democrat, the shot wouldn't have been aimed at the brain. Too small of a target.
That really does seem to be the standard Republican response. Congrats.

I'm still waiting for the source of your information that the shooter was a "Republican". 
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2011, 01:32:55 PM »
This guy was on the books back in 2007, stalking/threatening Giffords. Long before Palin was a household name. He's a nutcase, plain and simple. Sad part is, it'll be years before justice is served. gypsyman
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2011, 01:42:21 PM »
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Strange.  Ever "big time dope smoker" I know around here is a right wing Republican.

>Another silly post with nothing to do with anything, and certainly no evidence.  A brain dead post.  

A fact isn't brain dead.  It's just a fact.  Most of the people in our little parish jail are dope smokin', cocaine sniffin', meth snortin', hard drinkin' white boys who vote right wing when they vote.


How would you know they are using and how would you know how they vote?
>How would you know they are using

The local paper lists names and charges.  

>and how would you know how they vote?

You got to be kidding???  I'm reminded of a country song: "It's up against the wall you redneck mothers / Mothers who have raised a son so well / He's 34 and drinking in a honkytonk / kickin' hippie's azzes and raisin' hail. /"

You think any of those mother's sons vote the same way Jessie Jackson  and Junior1942 votes?

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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2011, 02:56:35 PM »
Actually in the search of his place copies of the communist manifesto and Mein Kampf were found,the handbooks of leftists. Also the local news reported he harrased some local people in the schools.Apparantly the people went to the Pima County Sheriff and tried to get charges pressed. The Sherriff's office denied the complaintants. The Sheriff of Pima county is a leftist,and come to find out the shooter's Mom was a Pima County employee. Ya kinda wonder if a deal was made between his mom and the Sheriff. Stranger stuff has happened.

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« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
Mein Kamf and the communist manifesto? ? ? Nahh he is still posting here but for a moment I thought could be!
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2011, 03:29:28 PM »
I am very pro-gun , anti-abortion, family-values, born again Christian who happens to be a  Democrat,

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« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2011, 04:02:22 PM »
I am very pro-gun , anti-abortion, family-values, born again Christian who happens to be a  Democrat,

It's impossible to be a Christian and a Democrat.



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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2011, 04:21:53 PM »
I am very pro-gun , anti-abortion, family-values, born again Christian who happens to be a  Democrat,

It's impossible to be a Christian and a Democrat.

Hopefully when you face your maker you have discovered your wrongs. God forgives all sins as long as you repent. I hope you realize the blood of these babies is on your hands.
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2011, 04:35:10 PM »
Not to change the current subject but;
I'm not sure if it was cleared up as to whether or not the shooter is a Republican. It is now being reported that he is registered as an Independent. One person who knows him, described him as "left wing, and quite liberal".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-giffords-gunman-left-wing-quite-liberal/

Regardless of his politics, he killed those people because he is mentally ill.......BIG TIME!
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2011, 12:52:33 AM »
Not to change the current subject but;
I'm not sure if it was cleared up as to whether or not the shooter is a Republican. It is now being reported that he is registered as an Independent. One person who knows him, described him as "left wing, and quite liberal".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-giffords-gunman-left-wing-quite-liberal/

Regardless of his politics, he killed those people because he is mentally ill.......BIG TIME!
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Re: Palin listed Giffords as a target
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2011, 01:26:52 AM »
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A fact isn't brain dead.  It's just a fact.  Most of the people in our little parish jail are dope smokin', cocaine sniffin', meth snortin', hard drinkin' white boys who vote right wing when they vote.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you Junior...

There is no way for you to know if someone votes, how they vote, what they are, what they represent, or anything else....

you basically make things up as you go along...it's OK...politics is driving you. You can't help it.