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Westboro Church Not Welcome
« on: January 11, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »
Got this from Fox News



Arizonans Rally to Prevent Westboro Church Disruption of Shooting Victims' Funerals
By Judson Berger

Published January 11, 2011
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Nov. 11, 2010: Members of the Westboro Baptist Church hold anti-gay signs at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia on Veterans Day.
Arizona residents are locking arms to stop the Westboro Baptist Church from disrupting the funerals for victims of Saturday's shooting in Tucson, with bikers and others organizing a massive counter-protest and state lawmakers fast-tracking a bill to hamstring the group.

The Kansas-based Westboro church is notorious for showing up at the funerals of dead soldiers and other high-profile gatherings wielding anti-gay signs.

But when the church announced it would picket the funeral Thursday for the 9-year-old girl fatally shot over the weekend at a Tucson grocery store by a gunman who allegedly killed five others and injured 14 others attending a town-hall session by Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Tucson- and Phoenix-area residents started organizing immediately.

They may not be able to stop them, but they plan on giving the grieving family as much of a buffer as possible between the protesters and the service.

"It makes me sick to my stomach," said Glen Littell, who's bringing a pack of bikers from the Phoenix Motorcycle Rider Group to Tucson on Thursday. "They're a stench from a slaughterhouse. We're just going to block the stench so the family can catch their breath."

Arizona state lawmakers are also scrambling to pass a bill that would order protesters to stay 300 feet away from the funeral. Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the lead sponsor on the bill, said in an e-mail to colleagues that the plan is to suspend the rules Tuesday and fast-track the bill to protect the victims' families from the "hateful protest" from the Westboro Baptist Church.

She said she has the support of the Senate president and Gov. Jan Brewer, and the bill will go into effect "immediately" once it's signed.

"It's gonna happen," Sinema said. The senator said she was "real upset" after learning that the Westboro church planned on protesting but had a visceral reaction after reading their press release and sprung into action.

"It is the most disgusting thing I ever read in my entire life," she told FoxNews.com. "I literally threw up after I read it. … I'm like, 'I'm gonna fix this.'"

Littell said his riders are not looking for any violent confrontations. But he told FoxNews.com that Arizona bikers are going to do "whatever we have to do" to cordon off the family from the protests. A group called the Patriot Guard Riders often does this when the Westboro church pickets military funerals, but Littell said that group is not traveling to Tucson, so "we're stepping in."

"Our sole purpose will be to allow that family some dignity and respect … without having to worry about the a--holes," he said.

It's not clear whether the Westboro church intends to picket the funerals of all the victims of Saturday's attack. One press release from the group declared, "Thank God for the shooter," and said the group would picket the "funerals." Another release announced plans only for the protest on Thursday.

"God sent the shooter to deal with idolatrous America," the group said in a statement.

The Westboro church, led by Fred Phelps, believes that tragic events like the deaths of soldiers are punishment for tolerance of homosexuality.

The Supreme Court last fall heard arguments in a case brought against Phelps by the father of a soldier killed in Iraq whose funeral was protested by the group in 2006. The father, Albert Snyder, had won a multimillion-dollar verdict against the church, claiming invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The court is expected to issue a ruling soon on whether free speech can be curbed at specific locations and events.

Sinema said the bill she was introducing is modeled on an Ohio law that has withstood court challenge. It would technically apply to protesters at any Arizona funeral, though Sinema was clear that it's directed at Westboro.

She said she hopes the protesters and counter-protesters avoid any violence at the service. Meanwhile, several grassroots groups have popped up on Facebook calling on Tucson residents to intervene.

"We will create a wall of humanity to allow the families who've lost their love ones to hold their funerals in peace, held with dignity, and surrounded in love," one of the Facebook groups says in a statement.

Another calls for a "peaceful protest" of the church at the funeral Thursday for 9-year-old Christina Green.

Littell has notified the Pima County Sheriff's Department and has reached out to several other biker groups notifying them of their planned presence at Green's funeral. He crossed his fingers that the Hells Angels would join them.

"Nothing says stand back and be silent like a Hells Angels presence," he said.

Littell added that if the church moves on to picket other funerals, his riders will follow.

"We're getting word there's gonna be a pretty large presence of bikers," he said. "Word's spreading. And spreading quickly."

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 08:28:01 AM »
These people are disgusting.  They claim it all in the name of Christ no less.  They make me sick.  I would love to see someone organize Sunday morning protests outside their church.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 09:24:43 AM »
These people are disgusting.  They claim it all in the name of Christ no less.  They make me sick.  I would love to see someone organize Sunday morning protests outside their church.
its going to happen someday someone will get fed up and as they say god will send someone with a gun to visit them. sure hope it does,nt happen but people take just so must stupid


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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 09:38:41 AM »
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I would love to see someone organize Sunday morning protests outside their church.

Just reminds of the saying
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Wrestling with pigs will just get you dirty and the pig will enjoy it.
They love any action against them that gives them publicity. Although very difficult the best thing that could happen would be if they were never in the news again unless it was in an obituary.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »
They are not exactly popular with us!


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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 04:54:35 PM »
Thanks Spirithawk for standing up for our troops and their families!
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 05:01:28 PM »
These scum seem to be free at all times and have money to travel all over America. Where do they get their money??? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 05:20:57 PM »
These scum seem to be free at all times and have money to travel all over America. Where do they get their money??? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
[/quote  i would say they get most of their money from law suits? cheaper to pay them off than go to court.

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 06:02:52 PM »
Thanks Spirithawk for standing up for our troops and their families!

You're most welcome. :) How could I not? Particularly as a Vietnam veteran with a daughter (14 years served) and son-in-law (17 yrs served) and still serving in the Navy.  There's a few other Patriot Guard members here too if I'm not mistaken. Scum like these self righteous, pretend to be Babtist, jerks aren't worth the air they breath!

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 03:19:14 AM »
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Scum like these self righteous, pretend to be Babtist, jerks aren't worth the air they breath!




Thanks Spirithawk for standing up for REAL Americans. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 03:39:21 AM »
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Scum like these self righteous, pretend to be Babtist, jerks aren't worth the air they breath!




Thanks Spirithawk for standing up for REAL Americans. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D

No need to thank me. Standing up is just the right thing to do and I'm just one of many Patriot Guard Riders. :) Saddly it's because of the sacrifices of those these low lifes so callously and shamefully try to disgrace that they even have the freedom to exist in the first place! Something they convieniently seem to forget! Jesus died for your sins but it's the soldier who died for your freedom!

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 03:46:02 AM »
yep .. thats the way it is spirit.
 when settle up time comes.. theres only one who can do it, as he knows all...
 i invite anyone to read the four gospels.. it can t hurt you ..might be,, you come out with peace of mind,in this troubled world..god bless ,slim rem 7

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 07:17:38 AM »
yep .. thats the way it is spirit.
 when settle up time comes.. theres only one who can do it, as he knows all...
 i invite anyone to read the four gospels.. it can t hurt you ..might be,, you come out with peace of mind,in this troubled world..god bless ,slim rem 7



Definitely good advice. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2011, 09:13:15 AM »
The right of free speech should not be infringed upon. Having said that, one must realize as the framers of the Constitution did; that shouting fire in a crowded theater was dangerous and not covered by freedom of speech.

These mentaly disturbed people are a danger to themsleves and others. There is nothing constitutionally that should allow them to trod upon others of this nation. Any words, spoken or written that could cause grievious bodily injury are not covered. This is not to say you cannot protest, or shout unfair.

Common sense must be used and the reasonable person standard must be used as the balance. Would a reasonable person stand on the street corner in Watts or Harlem with racial slurs printed on a sign. the answer is no and the person doing it would probably have an unfortunate encounter. There is no law preventing a person from doing this, if the person is willing to suffer the consequences for his own stupidity the government should not be held accountable to protect said idiot.


The "people" from Westboro in my opinion are lucky they haven't encountered some very angry people.


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