Author Topic: Which do you prefer - 45-70 synthetic or Buffalo Classic? (Read 3521 times)

rsilvers · « **on:** January 15, 2011, 07:13:16 AM »

I think I want another 45-70. I am not sure why, since I like my lever rifle fine. But want and need are two different things.

I will check them out at the Shot Show, but wanted to see what most people prefer. Obviously one would get the synthetic if they wanted to scope it, but I don't want to scope it. I am sort of intrigued by the long barrel and sight radius of the Buffalo Classic.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2011, 07:33:04 AM »

Boy, that's a mixed bag because the BC comes with a 32" barrel and the syn 45-70 Handi a 22" barrel, also depends on what you want to do with the 45-70. The 32" BC is not so popular for hunting, but concerning just the stock differences, the BC stock probably is the most popular for more members. I like the BC stock on my 45-120 which doesn't have a scope, but prefer scopes for any serious target shooting or hunting, haven't use the syn stock with sights at all. FWIW, Pete has several H&Rs in BC stocks, all are scoped cuz he's an old guy.... even older than me!

Tim

rsilvers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2011, 07:48:12 AM »

I will probably get a Buffalo Classic.

I just want to play around. I don't think I would hunt with it.

Last Shot Show I cam super close to getting a Shiloh Sharps and did not due to the cost and knowing I would never really use it. With a BC, I don't need to justify a reason so much as it does not cost very much.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2011, 07:51:23 AM »

I think this is in the FAQs, but just in case you haven't seen it.

Tim

45/70Handi versus 45/70 Sharps

petemi · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2011, 08:39:15 AM »

Tim's correct. I have 3 rifles on BC Carbine stocks. The original .45-LC, and 18 inch .38-55 (thanks again to Tim) and 16.5 inch .357 Maxi. They're all scoped, and I love them. I'm eager to get my .445 SuperMag on one soon. I may cut that barrel back from 22 to 18 inches too. I can't praise the short barrels on the BC stock sets enough. They swing and they shoot with the old time straight walled cartridges.....and the new, like the Maxi and Supermag. I don't have a problem shooting with a scope and a straight stock....I grew up that way.

Pete

mechanic · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2011, 08:56:41 AM »

A hard question to quantify....thats why I have both. I haven't really hunted with the BC, but it's my favorite toy at the range. The 22" barrel shoots just as good, but isn't as much fun. It is however, dead on for hunting. Buy both, and you have it covered. Both would be a down payment on a Sharps.........

Ben

cwlongshot · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:05:43 AM »

Quote from: mechanic on January 15, 2011, 08:56:41 AM

A hard question to quantify....that's why I have both. I haven't really hunted with the BC, but it's my favorite toy at the range. The 22" barrel shoots just as good, but isn't as much fun. It is however, dead on for hunting. Buy both, and you have it covered. Both would be a down payment on a Sharps.........

Ben

SAME HERE!!!

IMHO, the BC has it in the looks and classic styling, but the lighter syn stocked is far more utilitarian. It's my "RAIN RIFLE", I like 'em both!!

CW

rsilvers · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:10:14 AM »

My Winchester 1895 is already a shortish barrel so I should get the BC. I am just happy it has an aperture sight from the factory. I am really down on modifying guns lately. I only want guns that come correct from the factory.

Shu · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:21:33 AM »

Either would serve you very well.

Your question is akin to asking blondes , brunetts or redheads. All are great.

I picked the synthetic stock as a knock around gun but would go with the BC as a fun shooter.

I have shot the sharps in 45-70, I'll stick with my handi. I saw nothing special about the sharps that would just make me go out and plunk down the money. Blondes , brunetts or redheads... sure all are great.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:27:36 AM »

Just a heads up, be prepared to change the front sight, I don't know if Remington has corrected the front sight, but most CR-1871s have come with the Lyman .584" 17A front sight which is correct for the 38-55 Target Classic, it needs to be the .494" 17A sight to work with the WGRS Williams sight on the 45-70, and most prefer the .404" 17A sight for any longer range shooting with the Williams FP-TK sight, there are numerous discussions on this problem. The .584" sight will put a 405gr trapdoor load 6" low at 50yds with the WGRS aperture carrier at the highest position on the ramp.

Tim

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:32:06 AM »

I just never fell in love with the BC stocks like some here have , for me its about weight and the Tupperwear helps a bunch , granted I do have many wood stocked Handi's , yet most of those are in either standard or even superlite barrel profiles , and that cuts down weight too .

stimpy

S.E.Ak · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2011, 10:18:38 AM »

For hunting the short one and fun the long one. Or brush hunting the short one deer stand the long one

gcrank1 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2011, 11:13:05 AM »

For what you have indicated the long one is the way to go.

Slufoot · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2011, 03:01:58 PM »

I like the looks of the BC and wouldn't mind have a stock from one but the synthetics sure suit my style of hunting better.

Quote from: cwlongshot on January 15, 2011, 09:05:43 AM

It's my "RAIN RIFLE"
CW

+1 on that!

Quote from: rsilvers on January 15, 2011, 09:10:14 AM

My Winchester 1895 is already a shortish barrel

I don't believe I've ever seen an 1895 Winchester in 45-70.

GOOD SHOOTING!
Slufoot

rsilvers · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2011, 03:52:16 PM »

So it must be an 1886. Whatever was made in Japan in the last 10 years.

petemi · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2011, 11:32:56 PM »

Here are the three I have on BC Carbine stocks:

Pete

bikerbeans · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2011, 03:23:08 AM »

BC for range work and to let others look at. Synthetic for hunting/truck/pack gun.

BB

rsilvers · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2011, 03:28:09 AM »

I am off to the Shot Show tonight. Can't wait to see these.

petemi · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2011, 03:41:53 AM »

I love my BCs, but I voted synthetic for the .45-70 because I can put 2 lbs of shot in the stock to dampen recoil. I'm chicken, and the metal butt plate scares me.

Pete

rsilvers · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2011, 03:50:08 AM »

The answer to recoil is to fill the case 90% full with Trail Boss. 1180fps for a 340 grain from a BC or in the 900 range with a 405. A joy to shoot.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2011, 04:01:53 AM »

+1 that; Ive just this week tried Trail Boss in the 'new' trapdoor Springfield (ie, level 1 load) using a full case to the base of the bullet (405 Lee), no compression, vs a slightly compressed load of 1 F Black Powder.
I was looking for subjective, not ultimate accuracy, info at only 50yds. and I like that TB load; I will certainly go for accuracy testing an chrono the velocities.
Another load that seems comparable to the TB is 23.0gr. of IMR 4227 (a long time favorite of mine for reduced cast bullet loads).
Both the above were somewhat 'softer' than the real BP load.

GeorgiaDave · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:09:24 AM »

Hello,

I have a Handi 45/70 with the regular stock stock set. I like the BC plenty good but have yet to want one bad enough to acquire one. As for the synthetic stocks, I really do not care for them. I had much rather have the laminates or even the regular wood. My 45/70 is not tricked in any way, and is the way I got it a few years ago. I have seen grown men almost break down in tears when this " ugly old boat paddle " outshot their $1000+ set up. Never one to gloat, I do my best to help them get the most out of their rifles, but always suggest that they get one of these "push button" guns. I have included pics of the rifle with a 3 shot. 1/2" group that is not a fluke since I have duplicated it several times. I am a simple man, I like simple things and simply put, these guns are shooters.

petemi · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2011, 02:31:51 AM »

My thoughts are: First, ya just can't beat the .45-70. You can plink with it, or send great big bullets a long way. Second: It'll take down anything in North America. To go with synthetic or wood stocks or the long or short barrel depends on what you want to do with it. Lugging it around woods, brush and mountains or shooting it off a bench are major considerations. Frankly, I don't see any accuracy advantage of the longer barrel over the 22 inch. My 22 inch Handi can literally hit anything I can see If I do my part. There may be a slight velocity advantage in the longer barrel, but I'm not too sure of that. When in doubt, get both, with extra stocks.

Pete

ham7777 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2011, 03:17:59 AM »

Ok here is the plan buy a BC and then wait for good deal here on GB and buy a nice 22" barrel and stock.Then you have the best of both.

. That is more or less what I did ,but then again I am a 45-70 fanatic I have a doz. or so in Marlins Remington rolling blocks Winchester and of course H&R's Tom

Big Blue · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2011, 04:39:19 AM »

"Which do you prefer - 45-70 synthetic or Buffalo Classic?"
Actually neither, I prefer the trapper version.
Don

bikerbeans · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:40:08 AM »

No one would have guessed that, Mr. Talo Trifecta.

BB

surehuntsalot · « **Reply #26 on:** January 31, 2011, 03:18:43 AM »

synthetic

knight0334 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:47:11 AM »

Wood over synthetic any day for "sporting" arms, especially the Handi style firearms. Now on a home(land) defense gun like an AK or my AR - synthetic of course.

gb6491 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2011, 07:14:24 AM »

BC for me!

Regards,
Greg

Swampman · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2011, 07:15:50 AM »

The BC is just too heavy and cumbersome. I prefer the standard 22" barreled Handi Rifle.

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Author Topic: Which do you prefer - 45-70 synthetic or Buffalo Classic? (Read 3521 times)