Got one on de way.... Update..It's here

[Graybeard]

er I guess it will be when he gets my check at least.  :eek:

From my Classifieds Forum I've located a TC Renegade .50 percussion gun. From the set of five photos it looks to be dang near as new. He is tossing in a partial box of round balls and patches which makes me think the rest of that box might just be all it's been shot. Looks nice and clean in the photos anyway and he assures me it is that way. He is also including a set of the TC fiber optic sights not yet installed on it which I've been thinking of trying since I don't see up close so good anymore.

You might recall awhile back I commented that my dream rifle would be a stainless steel Renegade with a stock made of the gray laminated wood and a nice Pachmayr decellerator pad. I'd like to have two SS barrels one a .54 RB barrell with about 1-66" twist and a .50 SS conical barrel. Since this one is coming with the .50 barrel with proper twist for conicals I'll just use it this way for now.

So all I gotta get to have my dream rifle is a new stock, two new SS barrels and have the action industrial hard chromed. Dang I'm nearly there.  :-D

Thanks Marlin444.

GB

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

Uhh.  I don't mean to be condescending to someone who may already know his muzzle loading, but normally the "action" on a traditional gun is called a "lock".

(Normally I don't give a rip, as long as I understand what you mean.  I just feel in a pesky mood today)

Out of curiosity, what do you like about the Renegade?   And is it 15/16" across the flats or 1"?

If it's 15/16" you will be able to get a .54 ball barrel fairly easily, but it won't be a T/C.  It will have to be a Green Mountain, T/C .54s are all 1" across the flats.

[rollingb]

Technicaly speak'n,.... The "action" is in reference to a lock's "mainspring",... for instance,.. a "back action lock" has it's mainspring located behind the tumbler, rather than in front of the tumbler!!

[Graybeard]

Uhh. I don't mean to be condescending to someone who may already know his muzzle loading, but normally the "action" on a traditional gun is called a "lock".

Technicaly speak'n,.... The "action" is in reference to a lock's "mainspring",... for instance,.. a "back action lock" has it's mainspring located behind the tumbler, rather than in front of the tumbler!!

Picky...Picky...Picky.  :roll:  Yeah I know it is technically it's a lock but dang it I ain't shot a muzzy loader uv any kinda in quite a few years and haven't shot a side hammer gun in a WHOLE LOT MORE YEARS!  :eek:  On that TC SS FireHawk it dang shore ain't no lock but a fer shore nuff action.

But now I'm going back to my roots in muzzy loading. Back to the TC Renegade where I stared a whole buncha years ago.  :lol: The one I got was priced really reasonably and is in almost like new condition. Can't have been fired much and was taken good care of.

When I started I had a .54 double trigger gun first. Hated the double set triggers and that dang big way over 400 grain maxi ball over 120 grains equivalent of Pyrodex shoot ma dang teetch when I fired it. Shore didn't take me long to decide I needed something different. So I went to a .50 Hunter model with single trigger. Plan to get the kit from TC to turn this one into a single trigger gun. Anyone have any idea how much trouble it might be to convert it at home?

Since both of my shoulders really need rotator cuff surgery in the worse way there is no way I can take the recoil of the heavy conicals so I reckon this trip I'm gonna try patched RBs. Any body wanna make a suggestion as to where to start regarding ball diameter, patch thickness and powder charge?

Since I don't know anywhere in the nearest 2-3 couties that sells real BP I reckon I'll have to stick with Pyrodex again. Maybe one of these days I'll run around some real BP and pick me up some. Real BP is getting mighty hard to find in stores. I think ya hafta order a case at a time (maybe not) but shipping charges really add up. Since I'll never be a real serious muzzy loader shooter lack you guys a few pounds might be a life time supply for me. Er maybe I'll like it and it won't. Who knows.


GB

PS: Kinda fergot. Barrel is one inch across the flats. Don't really care if barrel is TC. Don't think they make one of SS anyway and I really do want an SS barrel for it. What da heck ya mean SS ain't traditional? Betcha iffen it had been available it would have been.  :-D

[Triple Se7en]

". Don't really care if barrel is TC"
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I can kick myself in the butt for not saving a web article that described a slew of Renegades that were fitted with 2nd party non-T/C barrels that are not as accurate a while back.

I do not remember who made the barrels -- only remembered that this was going on for a few years in the 90s. There always seems to be alot of Renegades in the classifieds... don't know why or what for. Didn't mean to put a burr in your saddle Greybeard... sounds like you intend on changing the barrel anyways.

[Graybeard]

I too recall seeing someone who offered barrels for them in both blued and SS. I really do have my heart set on SS. Checked the Green Mtn. site today as I thought that's who it was but sure didn't see anything listed about SS for the Renegades.

I think the reson you see so many for sale is they are a real old gun not even offered in the standard TC line up in a lot of years. They are heavy too which turns off many. They are my favorite muzzle loader however so what others like don't really affect the way I feel about them.

I want this to be a two barrel gun really. One a strictly round ball gun in .54 and another for the heavy conicals in .50. The factory barrel can do for that latter job really but would sure like to have one in SS if I can get it.

GB

[Underclocked]

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catID=HawkenRenegadeStyleRifles


maybe?

[jh45gun]

You cannot go wrong with a Green Mountain barrel they are top of the line. I have 3 guns with them on them. A 45/70 Rolling block and a 54 cal  side lock made from parts not a kit. I have a other 54 cal Green Mountain round barrel ( inline knight barrel)  that I am making a inline out of now. You always could get the blued ones if not offered as stainless and have them treated with one of the new coatings on the market that are supposed to be great. Jim

[Graybeard]

Underclocked yeah they show the long range barrels in SS but what I'm wanting is a round ball barrel in stainless. I suspect they will make one up for me but could be wrong. I'm not ready to plunk down the $$ just yet anyway so have time to do more research and ask them more questions.

GB