Using the 165 would be just like i use my northwoods 175s offsets.... I use alot of step down sets with these size traps. I havent had any toe catches either but it could come in future.. I use these traps alot in high theft areas...If using the 165 in a reg dirt hole you have to VERY FIRMLY pack dirt all around trap SOLIDLY except right over trap pan. You have to guide or make your set so yote steps over yr pan and commits his foot to your trap pan and trap. Using short chains and three swivels keeps yote THERE. I dont use these traps when it snows and shortly my cable restraint season is starting and i will be using nonlethal cables and sets. Good luck and have fun.
